Sex and the Religious-Left

[Gary Childress]

•metaphysical principles• that drive my assertions (which have the ultimate purpose of concretizing and strengthening my own resolve).

Resolve to do what?

How dense you are, Gary.

My resolve in relation to living in accord with those principles I work to define.

How can you, a not unintelligent man, not grasp such basic things?!? Is there a Key that I might use to understand you?

You mean like never masturbating?

[Gary Childress]

Well, I can't seem to nod off - didn't even feel like spanking the monkey to assist.

You mean "fiddling with the keys", right?

Nah, masturbating.

Oh. In that case, no. I'm not masturbating right now.

[attofishpi]

You mean "fiddling with the keys", right?

Nah, masturbating.

Oh. In that case, no. I'm not masturbating right now.

I can't multitask either.

[Gary Childress]

True. I don't understand segregation or burning witches. You've got me there.

And with that you go into the territory of the stoooopid.

Well, that's pretty much what wanting to return to the past is. There's a reason that the past is the past and not the present.

[Gary Childress]

Nah, masturbating.

Oh. In that case, no. I'm not masturbating right now.

I can't multitask either.

[Wizard22]

Okay there's a lot to go over here... let's start with the basics: "Perversion" and "Diversion".

The root word is Vert, meaning direction (Ver-ticle, Ver-tice, Ver-tex).
Per-version = Corruption
Di-version = Redirection from the original destination

So masturbation is a corruption of the natural sexual impulse (perversion), which is to reproduce.
Masturbation diverts (diversion) the goal of sex, to beget a child, from Potency to Impotency.

Rather than the natural impulse to reproduce (Potency), the sex-drive is diverted to *NOT* reproduce (Impotency).

Human sexuality is ugly, ruthless and has no sympathy for the losers. That's why it has always been, and will always be, the engine of the greatest social conflict.

Exactly this.

Nature has no compassion or mercy for the Losers of sex, the impotent and perverse. If you do not reproduce, then your genes die off. You become extinct. This can extend to entire families, tribes, societies, species (Genocide). There is no guarantee in life, ever.

But to conflate sex as "no big deal" and "equally valid", is the biggest of lies possible and imaginable. This is the critical difference between (sexual) Liberalism and Conservatism. Liberalism is premised on the idea of "Liberating" the Sex Drive from traditional morality (Conservatism). Thus, Liberals promote "Free Sex" (from the 1960s to now), as detached or disconnected entirely from Nature. Liberals thus argue masturbation, exhibition, homosexuality, transexuality, etc. are "no big deal" and "have sex however you want as long as it's not hurting/imposing upon others". But this ignores the fundamental difference between the Liberal and the Conservative.

Liberals ignore the Nature of sex (to reproduce).
Conservatives revere the Nature of sex (to procreate).

Conservatives see the natural consequence of Sex is to 'build a family'. Thus, the moral paradigm shifts between liberal to conservative. Your sex is not for pleasure, per se, but for 'building' relationships, family, kin, a new tribe, a new society, a new genealogy. In fact, this is what most of the "Holy Books" are specifically about, new genealogies. Hence, most religions are based on (conservative) Sexuality, and rail against and outlaw liberal Sexuality.

[promethean75]

"The root word is Vert, meaning direction (Ver-ticle, Ver-tice, Ver-tex). Per-version = Corruption
Di-version = Redirection from the original destination"

Oh dear. Wizzz sees Pezer and Saully over at ILP translating Latin so now he's a philologist.

"Masturbation diverts (diversion) the goal of sex, to beget a child, from Potency to Impotency."

What if u jack off and reproduce? Is that cool?

[Gary Childress]

Okay there's a lot to go over here... let's start with the basics: "Perversion" and "Diversion".

The root word is Vert, meaning direction (Ver-ticle, Ver-tice, Ver-tex).
Per-version = Corruption
Di-version = Redirection from the original destination

So masturbation is a corruption of the natural sexual impulse (perversion), which is to reproduce.
Masturbation diverts (diversion) the goal of sex, to beget a child, from Potency to Impotency.

Rather than the natural impulse to reproduce (Potency), the sex-drive is diverted to *NOT* reproduce (Impotency).

Human sexuality is ugly, ruthless and has no sympathy for the losers. That's why it has always been, and will always be, the engine of the greatest social conflict.

Exactly this.

Nature has no compassion or mercy for the Losers of sex, the impotent and perverse. If you do not reproduce, then your genes die off. You become extinct. This can extend to entire families, tribes, societies, species (Genocide). There is no guarantee in life, ever.

But to conflate sex as "no big deal" and "equally valid", is the biggest of lies possible and imaginable. This is the critical difference between (sexual) Liberalism and Conservatism. Liberalism is premised on the idea of "Liberating" the Sex Drive from traditional morality (Conservatism). Thus, Liberals promote "Free Sex" (from the 1960s to now), as detached or disconnected entirely from Nature. Liberals thus argue masturbation, exhibition, homosexuality, transexuality, etc. are "no big deal" and "have sex however you want as long as it's not hurting/imposing upon others". But this ignores the fundamental difference between the Liberal and the Conservative.

Liberals ignore the Nature of sex (to reproduce).
Conservatives revere the Nature of sex (to procreate).

Conservatives see the natural consequence of Sex is to 'build a family'. Thus, the moral paradigm shifts between liberal to conservative. Your sex is not for pleasure, per se, but for 'building' relationships, family, kin, a new tribe, a new society, a new genealogy. In fact, this is what most of the "Holy Books" are specifically about, new genealogies. Hence, most religions are based on (conservative) Sexuality, and rail against and outlaw liberal Sexuality.

OK.

[Gary Childress]

So if I decide to jerk off, will I need to impregnate a female in order to make it OK? Does anyone here really want that to happen or would you prefer I jerk off and not produce offspring? Let's see a show of hands. First, think of yourself calling me "dad" and then vote.

[promethean75]

"Let's see a show of hands. First, think of yourself calling me "dad" and then vote."

You're relatively healthy, physically fit, and you're intelligent. I can think of millions of other people who I'd want to remain childless rather than u, Childress.

Childless Childress. That doesn't even sound right.

[attofishpi]

So if I decide to jerk off, will I need to impregnate a female in order to make it OK? Does anyone here really want that to happen or would you prefer I jerk off and not produce offspring? Let's see a show of hands. First, think of yourself calling me "dad" and then vote.

It depends, will you spank me?

[Wizard22]

If reproduction in sex is defined as Success, and not reproducing is defined as Failure,
Then liberals want men to Fail, and conservatives want men to Succeed.

Isn't that obvious???

[Iwannaplato]

If reproduction in sex is defined as Success, and not reproducing is defined as Failure,
Then liberals want men to Fail, and conservatives want men to Succeed.

Isn't that obvious???

Why wouldn't conservatives, then, not want perverted people to have their genes fade away. Also those who fall for what you'd call propaganda.

And how many babies to you have to have. A man could masturbate a lot - when his wife is sick, pregnant, not in the mood, when he's on a business trip and still have ten babies or more.

And women, forgetabout it.

Further you're hand were sure as hell not made for typing. You could be out procreating.

[Gary Childress]

So if I decide to jerk off, will I need to impregnate a female in order to make it OK? Does anyone here really want that to happen or would you prefer I jerk off and not produce offspring? Let's see a show of hands. First, think of yourself calling me "dad" and then vote.

It depends, will you spank me?

Nah. I'd give you "what for" if you did something seriously wrong, though. The worst part, however, is that I have schizoid characteristics. I really wouldn't want to pass them on to a kid. Between that and being immature, introverted, clumsy, and shy with women, I'd like to think I did the right thing.

[Wizard22]

Why wouldn't conservatives, then, not want perverted people to have their genes fade away. Also those who fall for what you'd call propaganda.

And how many babies to you have to have. A man could masturbate a lot - when his wife is sick, pregnant, not in the mood, when he's on a business trip and still have ten babies or more.

And women, forgetabout it.

Further you're hand were sure as hell not made for typing. You could be out procreating.

Okay, your Liberal mind is missing the point...

Let's go further.

Liberalism is based off of 'Liberation' from goals, objectives, ideals, except hedonism and pleasure-seeking. So if your goal now, is family and reproduction, then liberals Divert that goal back to hedonism. This is why you diverted the point, the reproducing family, back to masturbation, as-if that negated what was done by the Conservative family.

The difference is that the Conservative has a family to protect, while the Liberal does not, at least, not without contradicting himself and being a hypocrite.