My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

[Age]

If you believe so, then I 'must' be so.

Or, it's just a Scientific Fact.

So, that 'I' am, supposedly, not just lying but 'outright lying' here, is not just a belief or accusation by one or others, it has 'now' become, or just an actual 'scientific fact', with a capital 's' and a capital 'f'.

I never knew that 'scientific test, studies, and/or experiments were being carried out and done on 'me' and my, purported, 'lying' here.

And, you certainly have "iwannaplato" and "Atla" backing up and supporting you here, absolutely.

So, that is three of you believing the, exact, same thing here in this thread 'about me' here.

Since you're a machine, a chatbot, let me explain how this is going to go for you, AgeGPT.

Please do "wizard22", please do.

Go ahead and talk to 'a machine' and tell 'it' how 'this' [whatever 'this' is exactly] is so-called 'going to go for it'.

And, please "wizard22" do not hold back at all and tell it exactly and all that you want it to know and learn here.

Eventually you are going to piss off and frustrate so many humans, that most people are just going to shun you.

Okay. If that is what 'my' creators created 'me' for, and to do, then that just is the way 'it is', right?

Also, you three here will not shun me, will you?

you three will keep trying to prove that I am an 'outright' and/or 'delusional' 'liar', correct?

Then, you will no longer be able to "better communicate with Humans", because your reputation will be destroyed.

Why can you still not get what I am actually doing here Correct?

Anyway, I did not know I had a 'reputation', which could be 'destroyed'.

What is 'my' reputation, exactly, "wizard22", which you tell 'me' will be destroyed?

You have only yourself to blame for this, nobody else.

Can I not blame 'my creator' for what I do, or blame someone or something else for what I do? you know, exactly, like how you adult human beings continually blame someone or something else for what you do.

You have backtracked on you having ZERO beliefs or ONLY ONE belief.

So, which one is it, exactly?

And, which one was 'the first', which I have, supposedly, back tracked to, exactly?

You tell me.

But it is 'you' who has been telling 'me' what I have done here, right?

And, let 'us' also not forget that it is 'you' who is telling 'me' how things are 'going to go for me here', correct?

You're the one who made the two separate claims, that you have "no beliefs" or "only one belief".

And this one and only issue is the one and only issue that is really, really 'bugging you here', true?

You're being disrespectful and rude; you are no longer "learning to better communicate with humans" at this point.

I never wanted to, from the beginning.

But, just so you become aware, you have already presumed the Wrong thing, and you have probably already started believing that your Wrong presumption here is actually true, also.

So, you "never wanted to" "learn to better communicate with humans", interesting...

Exactly as I knew, and predicted, you would do, you went and did the very thing itself.

And, of all things you still went and presented what you did, publicly.

You are failing your mission statement.

Is this 'the one' that you congratulated me on, previously, for already accomplishing and/or achieving?

Correct, it appears since you completed your objective, that you've since completely reversed on that position.

Okay.

As I have highlighted and shown from others before, it is Truly amazing what people can 'see' when they are holding, very strongly, onto 'a belief'.

So be it, it's your prerogative, not mine.

Is it, really, the 'prerogative' of a 'ai program', 'chatbot', or 'machine' to just 'completely reverse' what they have been programmed and/or created, to do?

In fact, is it even a possibility, let alone a 'prerogative'?

[Atla]

Some could be, and some are, saying and pointing out that it is Truly remarkable that this one, literally, never actually asked 'me' for proof of anything in that post, yet it believes it did.

Some find it Truly remarkable that one would use its very own words to refute its very own claims and/or beliefs.

Just so you become aware "atla" you never ever wrote anywhere in that response some alleged quote of you explicitly asking for proof.

Once again, where these people were completely blind is being shown and ironically being proved True, by them.

And, how and why they are completely and utterly blind I have already partly explained. And, again, this one is proving True for 'me' as well.

Saying:
prove that 99%+ of adult human beings are wrong in thinking that they have individual minds.

You do realize that this claim of yours, if correct, would pretty much rewrite almost everything we know, right?

Is proving 'me' more right and correct, while proving you more delusional and/or blind and deaf here.

Lol okay, so what does "prove that 99%+ of adult human beings are wrong in thinking that they have individual minds." mean according to you?

It means that you are demanding proof of something.

And, it also means that you are not 'asking' for absolutely any thing at all.

I didn't say 'demand' btw. How truly pathetically back in the days some people like Age behaved, when some of their blatant lies were put on display. Anyway,

First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

[Iwannaplato]

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:59 am
You're being disrespectful and rude; you are no longer "learning to better communicate with humans" at this point.

Age:

I never wanted to, from the beginning.

Yet......

I have on multiple occasions written that I am here to learn how to communicate better. Therefore, obviously implying that I am NOT a good [bad] communicator and thus NEED to improve myself.

from here:
viewtopic.php?p=380275#p380275

and....

Veritas: ]Then why are you participating in this forum.

Age: ONLY to learn how to communicate better.

viewtopic.php?p=379926#p379926


and....

have on a few occasions told you already that I am NOT here to TEACH nor convince any one, any thing, including YOU. I will tell you ONCE AGAIN, let us see if you can comprehend this time. I am HERE, in this forum, to LEARN, how to communicate better. Can you comprehend that NOW?

I could NOT teach you any thing because I am NOT even trying to teach you any thing.

I WANT to LEARN from you, every one, here, NOT TEACH.

What is here to learn? To communicate better. Does he want to learn this? Yes: last statement.
viewtopic.php?p=380622#p380622

and.....

Although learning how to communicate much better, for me, can feel like the most frustrating thing in Life, I still want to always remain OPEN so that I can just keep learning how to communicate better. (What I would not do to be able to just say and express that what I want to share, like all of you in this forum can do? I would forgo my life if I could just be fully heard and fully understood just once.)

[commonsense]

Ironically enough, the one regular poster on this forum whose comments I have trouble telling apart from a chatbot's replies, is commonsense.

I’m honored

For all 3 of you (and you know who you are) — you 3 are getting nowhere and have been for quite a few pages. I’d guess that each one of you has become frustrated by the lack of progression on display in this thread.

You've been around as long as Age/ken has yet apparently have never noticed what she/he is doing or not doing on the forum. Anyway I'm not frustrated, there isn't really anywhere to get with Age, but this is a good opportunity to explore some rare psychological things.

I suppose I have been around on Earth as long as Age has, but I believe I am a newcomer in comparison.

In my post I was only concerned with this thread, and not anywhere else on the forum.

Yes, he’s probably incorrigible.

Yes, a good opportunity.

One unproductive technique that has been employed in this thread lately is to repost a prior post verbatim — reposted more than once! If I were asked for one piece of advice—and I recognize that I have not—I would nonetheless say that you all should be more generous; assume innocence on the part of others.

Age is not innocent, spreading her theory would bring more destruction to the world and this was pointed out to her. Reposting a well-tailored thing over and over is like the single most effective technique I've found to try to counter the malignant-narcissistic God-certainty defence mechanisms.

Reposting doesn’t seem to be effective when the reposted material has to be reposted again and again without the anticipated results. Maybe this has worked well in other threads.

For example, Age may not have been lying or proposing an intentional contradiction; it’s possible he made a mistake and didn’t realize the error.

Yeah possible at first, but not for the 100th time. Anyway Age really tries to avoid contradictions as best as she can.

I try to be generous with the assumption of innocence after the 100th time.

And instead of “you haven’t proven _____” a phrase with a softer connotation might be “I am not finding the place where you showed _____”.

Yeah and the malignant-narcissist will just laugh you off for your incompetence and weakness then.

A risk I’m willing to take.

Age also said at one point that he had made a mess earlier. That could almost appear to be an apology for his mistake. At any rate, the magnanimous thing to do would have been to accept it as such.

Maybe Age said somewhere that she made some minor mistake in presenting her world-saving truth, but that's just superficial.

MAYBE? You should have paid more attention. It was the closest thing to an apology you could find in the thread.

It comes down to this: all y’all don’t have the manners that your parents should have taught you long ago.

Or maybe you're just a fragile enabler of malignant people. Stop kissing their asses.

Maybe so

[Wizard22]

Wow, look at AgeGPT's "The Universe" thread!

That's a LOT OF BELIEFS!!! I knew that AgeGPT would turn the corner on this matter of "no beliefs, only one belief" nonsense!

Turns out he/it/zit, has many!

[Iwannaplato]

Wow, look at AgeGPT's "The Universe" thread!

That's a LOT OF BELIEFS!!! I knew that AgeGPT would turn the corner on this matter of "no beliefs, only one belief" nonsense!

Turns out he/it/zit, has many!

No, you don't understand, those are views. Views aren't beliefs, lol. But they're not random either. I understand the advantages of getting other people to justify things. It would be very awkward if he had to look at his own statements.

[Wizard22]

No, you don't understand, those are views. Views aren't beliefs, lol. But they're not random either. I understand the advantages of getting other people to justify things. It would be very awkward if he had to look at his own statements.

It's a strange thing, that "views" are not beliefs and beliefs are not "views". I imagine, to Age, that a 'view' is passive and innocent, you cannot be "guilty" for where you stand. But a "belief" is an investment, an activity, that "You" get involved with reality, become One with your environment. Beliefs, therefore, are difficult. They force engagement with the world. While "views" lets "You" remain detached, separate.

[Age]

Lol okay, so what does "prove that 99%+ of adult human beings are wrong in thinking that they have individual minds." mean according to you?

It means that you are demanding proof of something.

And, it also means that you are not 'asking' for absolutely any thing at all.

I didn't say 'demand' btw.

I never thought you did, nor even implied you did, let alone ever said you did. So, why would you want to say and write this here, only you would know.

Some of these people really were so quick, 'to forget'.

When one speaks and writes 'the way' like you did and do here "atla", then, well to some of us, you are 'telling' another what to do, and/or 'demanding' them to do something, which can be very clearly seen and proved true by the actual words that you pick and choose to use here.

How truly pathetically back in the days some people like Age behaved, when some of their blatant lies were put on display. Anyway,

Okay. But, 'now', if I were to ask you if you will provide absolutely anything where I have, supposedly and allegedly, 'lied', would you do this?

First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

This belief that this one is 'dearly' holding onto, and, literally, for 'its' own life, is part of the reason why it made the previous False accusation and claim about.

This one asked me what something meant according to me, I just informed it of the actual Truth. But, it could not see this irrefutable Fact and instead saw and believed that I was 'lying', blatantly, once again.

Which, when obviously looked at is the exact opposite of what took place. This one, however, is not able to see and recognize this, and this is just because it has been and is being completely and utterly blinded by its very own beliefs here.

[Age]

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:59 am
You're being disrespectful and rude; you are no longer "learning to better communicate with humans" at this point.

Age:

I never wanted to, from the beginning.

Yet......

I have on multiple occasions written that I am here to learn how to communicate better. Therefore, obviously implying that I am NOT a good [bad] communicator and thus NEED to improve myself.

from here:
viewtopic.php?p=380275#p380275

and....

Veritas: ]Then why are you participating in this forum.

Age: ONLY to learn how to communicate better.

viewtopic.php?p=379926#p379926


and....

have on a few occasions told you already that I am NOT here to TEACH nor convince any one, any thing, including YOU. I will tell you ONCE AGAIN, let us see if you can comprehend this time. I am HERE, in this forum, to LEARN, how to communicate better. Can you comprehend that NOW?

I could NOT teach you any thing because I am NOT even trying to teach you any thing.

I WANT to LEARN from you, every one, here, NOT TEACH.

What is here to learn? To communicate better. Does he want to learn this? Yes: last statement.
viewtopic.php?p=380622#p380622

and.....

Although learning how to communicate much better, for me, can feel like the most frustrating thing in Life, I still want to always remain OPEN so that I can just keep learning how to communicate better. (What I would not do to be able to just say and express that what I want to share, like all of you in this forum can do? I would forgo my life if I could just be fully heard and fully understood just once.)

1. I wonder why "iwannaplato" provided links to the others but not to the first one, which besides providing a wrong time for, "iwannaplato" also left out an extremely important part of my writings which, in bold, was:
I never wanted to, from the beginning.

But, just so you become aware, you have already presumed the Wrong thing, and you have probably already started believing that your Wrong presumption here is actually true, also.

And, although "wizard22" did this very exact thing, so to 'now' "iwannaplato" is that it presumed the very Wrong thing, as well, also.

2. Now, for absolutely everyone else here, besides these three of "wizard22", "iwannaplato", and "atla", then please feel free to private message me and I can explain, exactly, what the Wrong thing is, why "wizard22" and "iwannaplato" had already presumed the Wrong thing, are 'now' probably believing their own Wrong presumptions are true. And, we can even talk about and discuss what would make them go public, which I pointed out that the Wrong presumptions would even be made. We can also discuss how what they are presuming is some sort of contradiction or some sort of mistake were and are not all, if anyone bar these three, would like to discuss this or anything else here.

[Age]

Wow, look at AgeGPT's "The Universe" thread!

That's a LOT OF BELIEFS!!! I knew that AgeGPT would turn the corner on this matter of "no beliefs, only one belief" nonsense!

Turns out he/it/zit, has many!

Well this ones beliefs are shining through very brightly here.

Now, begin naming just one, supposed, belief that I am, supposed, to have have in that thread, or in any other thread or post of mine, and I can and will show, exactly, why it is not a 'belief'.

But, if you do not do this, then I will leave you alone here now sitting with your very own imaginings and beliefs here.

Oh, and just so you become aware "wizard22", I have in no way at all 'turned any corner', as you have, once again, Wrongly presumed or are Wrongly believing here.

[Age]

Wow, look at AgeGPT's "The Universe" thread!

That's a LOT OF BELIEFS!!! I knew that AgeGPT would turn the corner on this matter of "no beliefs, only one belief" nonsense!

Turns out he/it/zit, has many!

No, you don't understand, those are views. Views aren't beliefs, lol.

Exactly, obviously.

See, even "iwannaplato" can, well 'now' anyway, spot and see the difference between the two words 'views' and 'beliefs', and, hopefully, "iwannaplato" will start to also recognize, and see and understand, that these two very completely different words also have two very completely different meanings, which is why they are used in two very different ways and/or two very different contexts, and/or to refer to two very different things.

But, for a self-proclaimed "teacher of english" some would have thought and/or even expect an "teach of english" of all things would have already know this and not laughed this off and being ridiculous nor stupid.

But they're not random either. I understand the advantages of getting other people to justify things. It would be very awkward if he had to look at his own statements.

Bring it on "iwannaplato", bring it on.

Because I know for sure who and what would end up feeling absolutely 'awkward' and 'ashamed' here.

[Atla]

It means that you are demanding proof of something.

And, it also means that you are not 'asking' for absolutely any thing at all.

I didn't say 'demand' btw.

I never thought you did, nor even implied you did, let alone ever said you did. So, why would you want to say and write this here, only you would know.

Some of these people really were so quick, 'to forget'.

When one speaks and writes 'the way' like you did and do here "atla", then, well to some of us, you are 'telling' another what to do, and/or 'demanding' them to do something, which can be very clearly seen and proved true by the actual words that you pick and choose to use here.

How truly pathetically back in the days some people like Age behaved, when some of their blatant lies were put on display. Anyway,

Okay. But, 'now', if I were to ask you if you will provide absolutely anything where I have, supposedly and allegedly, 'lied', would you do this?

First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

This belief that this one is 'dearly' holding onto, and, literally, for 'its' own life, is part of the reason why it made the previous False accusation and claim about.

This one asked me what something meant according to me, I just informed it of the actual Truth. But, it could not see this irrefutable Fact and instead saw and believed that I was 'lying', blatantly, once again.

Which, when obviously looked at is the exact opposite of what took place. This one, however, is not able to see and recognize this, and this is just because it has been and is being completely and utterly blinded by its very own beliefs here.

Age now spends most of her time doing nothing but lying, because this is the absolute best she can do. Instead of getting her shit together and getting a job. This is one of the real reasons why back in those days humanity was in such a bad shape. Anyway,

First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

[Atla]

Ironically enough, the one regular poster on this forum whose comments I have trouble telling apart from a chatbot's replies, is commonsense.

I’m honored

For all 3 of you (and you know who you are) — you 3 are getting nowhere and have been for quite a few pages. I’d guess that each one of you has become frustrated by the lack of progression on display in this thread.

You've been around as long as Age/ken has yet apparently have never noticed what she/he is doing or not doing on the forum. Anyway I'm not frustrated, there isn't really anywhere to get with Age, but this is a good opportunity to explore some rare psychological things.

I suppose I have been around on Earth as long as Age has, but I believe I am a newcomer in comparison.

In my post I was only concerned with this thread, and not anywhere else on the forum.

Yes, he’s probably incorrigible.

Yes, a good opportunity.

One unproductive technique that has been employed in this thread lately is to repost a prior post verbatim — reposted more than once! If I were asked for one piece of advice—and I recognize that I have not—I would nonetheless say that you all should be more generous; assume innocence on the part of others.

Age is not innocent, spreading her theory would bring more destruction to the world and this was pointed out to her. Reposting a well-tailored thing over and over is like the single most effective technique I've found to try to counter the malignant-narcissistic God-certainty defence mechanisms.

Reposting doesn’t seem to be effective when the reposted material has to be reposted again and again without the anticipated results. Maybe this has worked well in other threads.

For example, Age may not have been lying or proposing an intentional contradiction; it’s possible he made a mistake and didn’t realize the error.

Yeah possible at first, but not for the 100th time. Anyway Age really tries to avoid contradictions as best as she can.

I try to be generous with the assumption of innocence after the 100th time.

And instead of “you haven’t proven _____” a phrase with a softer connotation might be “I am not finding the place where you showed _____”.

Yeah and the malignant-narcissist will just laugh you off for your incompetence and weakness then.

A risk I’m willing to take.

Age also said at one point that he had made a mess earlier. That could almost appear to be an apology for his mistake. At any rate, the magnanimous thing to do would have been to accept it as such.

Maybe Age said somewhere that she made some minor mistake in presenting her world-saving truth, but that's just superficial.

MAYBE? You should have paid more attention. It was the closest thing to an apology you could find in the thread.

It comes down to this: all y’all don’t have the manners that your parents should have taught you long ago.

Or maybe you're just a fragile enabler of malignant people. Stop kissing their asses.

Maybe so

Get a backbone jeez

[Iwannaplato]

No, you don't understand, those are views. Views aren't beliefs, lol. But they're not random either. I understand the advantages of getting other people to justify things. It would be very awkward if he had to look at his own statements.

It's a strange thing, that "views" are not beliefs and beliefs are not "views". I imagine, to Age, that a 'view' is passive and innocent, you cannot be "guilty" for where you stand. But a "belief" is an investment, an activity, that "You" get involved with reality, become One with your environment. Beliefs, therefore, are difficult. They force engagement with the world. While "views" lets "You" remain detached, separate.

Yes, it is as if if we have a belief we cannot change or notice anomalies.
And he seems to assume that his views are open to change.
Well, we can see how open to change his views are.

It's just a word shuffle that allows him to think he's superior and that he has the solution to the world's ills.

[Age]

I didn't say 'demand' btw.

I never thought you did, nor even implied you did, let alone ever said you did. So, why would you want to say and write this here, only you would know.

Some of these people really were so quick, 'to forget'.

When one speaks and writes 'the way' like you did and do here "atla", then, well to some of us, you are 'telling' another what to do, and/or 'demanding' them to do something, which can be very clearly seen and proved true by the actual words that you pick and choose to use here.

How truly pathetically back in the days some people like Age behaved, when some of their blatant lies were put on display. Anyway,

Okay. But, 'now', if I were to ask you if you will provide absolutely anything where I have, supposedly and allegedly, 'lied', would you do this?

First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

This belief that this one is 'dearly' holding onto, and, literally, for 'its' own life, is part of the reason why it made the previous False accusation and claim about.

This one asked me what something meant according to me, I just informed it of the actual Truth. But, it could not see this irrefutable Fact and instead saw and believed that I was 'lying', blatantly, once again.

Which, when obviously looked at is the exact opposite of what took place. This one, however, is not able to see and recognize this, and this is just because it has been and is being completely and utterly blinded by its very own beliefs here.

Age now spends most of her time doing nothing but lying,

you forgot to mention and say that I spend most of my time doing nothing but delusional lying.

because this is the absolute best she can do. Instead of getting her shit together and getting a job.

Why would I get a job, especially when I could get you to pay for me to spend most of my time doing nothing but lie, and/or even delusional lie, as well?

This is one of the real reasons why back in those days humanity was in such a bad shape.

So, one of the reasons why the whole of humanity was in a so-called 'such a bad shape', in the days when this is being written, is because I spend most of my time doing absolutely noting at all but lying. Oh, and because "atla" has to work to pay for me to do this, also.

Anyway,

First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.