Wonkers and Israel

[accelafine]

Yeah, everyone who is ALSO critical of Israel and not just Hamas is protrans and believe in critical race theory, including those Israeli's who are critical of the current military Israelii operations. It's simple: one side bad, one side good. If someone doesn't agree 100% with insulting, does not make arguments, just assertions accelafine, then one is rooting for genocide...and is woke.

You're just another duschbag who gets a dopamine hit whenever he uses one of his cliche binary categories. I'm sure it must be nice not to think and get to virtue signal in post after post.

No one could possibly be reacting to your infantile approach to discussion...you're so right.

Stick with your mindreading and assertions.

It will lead the world to a better place.

Thank you for your brilliant counterargument. I think it has nearly caused me to change my stance.

If you want to support something worthwhile, support shipping Hamas and the IDF to Antarctica to kill each other.

You don't think that would harm Antarctica? How about the US? In your state?

[accelafine]

Apparently, it wasn't all that hard to provide those things to the Palestinians, at least not as difficult as it apparently was to provide water to drink.

They provided them with that as well. Do you need a list?

Greedy Palestinians:

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/peopl ... -palestine

'Aljazeera'. Not biased at all.

[Gary Childress]

Thank you for your brilliant counterargument. I think it has nearly caused me to change my stance.

If you want to support something worthwhile, support shipping Hamas and the IDF to Antarctica to kill each other.

You don't think that would harm Antarctica? How about the US? In your state?

It's OK, there are no trees to "hug" in Antarctica. It'll be fine.

[Gary Childress]

They provided them with that as well. Do you need a list?

Greedy Palestinians:

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/peopl ... -palestine

'Aljazeera'. Not biased at all.

They're better than Murdock's travesty, Fox "News".

[accelafine]

If you want to support something worthwhile, support shipping Hamas and the IDF to Antarctica to kill each other.

You don't think that would harm Antarctica? How about the US? In your state?

It's OK, there are no trees to "hug" in Antarctica. It'll be fine.

Right. So there's nothing there and it doesn't matter what you do to it. Why don't you want the conflict in your country? You could house Hamas and feed them during their stay.

[Gary Childress]

You don't think that would harm Antarctica? How about the US? In your state?

It's OK, there are no trees to "hug" in Antarctica. It'll be fine.

Right. So there's nothing there and it doesn't matter what you do to it. Why don't you want the conflict in your country? You could house Hamas and feed them during their stay.

Because I'd rather not have people killing each other any more than they already do. We have enough of that from gun-toting malcontents exercising their "first amendment" rights to an AR-15. Idiot.

[accelafine]

It's OK, there are no trees to "hug" in Antarctica. It'll be fine.

Right. So there's nothing there and it doesn't matter what you do to it. Why don't you want the conflict in your country? You could house Hamas and feed them during their stay.

Because I'd rather not have people killing each other any more than they already do. We have enough of that from gun-toting malcontents exercising their "first amendment" rights to an AR-15. Idiot.

Boo hoo. Couldn't have precious American lives being lost.

Perhaps you could ask your Hamas friends to release these 'evil oppressor' hostages

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[Alexis Jacobi]

A couple of notes while I have time.

The Israeli report on what happened Oct 7th appears to be disinformation and misinformation. Apparently, a large number of those killed were killed by Israel.

There is also doubt about the total number of Israelis killed. It may be far less than what was reported. This does change things.

There were so many lies put out by the Israeli forces and they have not yet been fully gone through.

Also Israel is doing very badly in Gaza, based on reports I have seen. I mean in the on-the-ground battles. They cannot win. It is a classic guerrilla fighter type situation.

What Israel has done in response to Oct 7 is so serious, and so out of proportion, that the world appears to see Israel, and Israeli disinformation and spin, in a different light. This will not be passed over. The ramifications and consequences of what Israel has done will reverberate for years.

If the US continues to *support Israel* it will share in the moral opprobrium. In fact it already has as most know. This is also a serious blow to the credibility of the US which was not in the best shape to start with.

I suspect a few things: the civil crisis inside Israel will get far worse. Israel's isolation in the region will increase -- has increased -- drastically. For this reason I will say that the Israeli state is in deep trouble. I will also say that the future of the Israeli state itself is in some doubt right now.

For the majority of Jews outside of Israel that *support Israel* without reservation and say that the lack of support is because of antisemitism will place those people in an untenable position. It is based in a fundamental lie. This actually means that Jewish identity is in trouble because, as we see in this case, the Hamas attack on Israel was a coherent, a rational, and even a logical act of legitimate resistance when the full history is understood.

But many Jews have a mystical ability to resort to another narrative, but one that is informed by lies and self-deception. For this reason, over the next months and years, their constructed identity with Israel at the center, will be challenged.

I think it fair to say that this event -- ongoing -- is unlike any other crisis that Israel has faced.

While I really cannot say what will happen next, my sense is that it is far more serious than one guesses at this point.

This is what I have concluded, though of course I could be quite wrong.

[accelafine]

Tin foil hat alert. Isn't it illegal to spread deliberate lies? Why is everyone so obsessed with Israel?
Hmm. Right. Makes sense. Israel tortured and murdered its own people, all while disguised as Hamas thugs (and filmed it all) then took its own people hostage and transported them to Gaza to be held by Gazans in Gaza for the release of Gazans....Yep. Makes sense.

[Gary Childress]

Right. So there's nothing there and it doesn't matter what you do to it. Why don't you want the conflict in your country? You could house Hamas and feed them during their stay.

Because I'd rather not have people killing each other any more than they already do. We have enough of that from gun-toting malcontents exercising their "first amendment" rights to an AR-15. Idiot.

Boo hoo. Couldn't have precious American lives being lost.

Perhaps you could ask your Hamas friends to release these 'evil oppressor' hostages




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You'd have no one to hate if you didn't misrepresent your interlocutors.

[accelafine]

Because I'd rather not have people killing each other any more than they already do. We have enough of that from gun-toting malcontents exercising their "first amendment" rights to an AR-15. Idiot.

Boo hoo. Couldn't have precious American lives being lost.

Perhaps you could ask your Hamas friends to release these 'evil oppressor' hostages




Kfir.jpg

You'd have no one to hate if you didn't misrepresent your interlocutors.

If I knew what that meant then I would probably agree/disagree, depending on what it meant of course.

[Gary Childress]

Boo hoo. Couldn't have precious American lives being lost.

Perhaps you could ask your Hamas friends to release these 'evil oppressor' hostages




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You'd have no one to hate if you didn't misrepresent your interlocutors.

If I knew what that meant then I would probably agree/disagree, depending on what it meant of course.

And you're referring to others as "know-nothings"?

[Gary Childress]

Hint: if you don't know what it means, try finding out. Googling is easy.

[accelafine]

You'd have no one to hate if you didn't misrepresent your interlocutors.

If I knew what that meant then I would probably agree/disagree, depending on what it meant of course.

And you're referring to others as "know-nothings"?

Say what you mean, you cowardly American git.

[Gary Childress]

If I knew what that meant then I would probably agree/disagree, depending on what it meant of course.

And you're referring to others as "know-nothings"?

Say what you mean, you cowardly American git.

Grow up.