Gun Control

[Immanuel Can]

Where I live, a zombie apocalypse is essentially of equal probability.

Montana?

Hey, these days, anywhere they've got a school or a mall is a danger zone.

You said "your home", so I'm talking neighborhoods, not states.

"Personal protection" was the term used. Unless the need for "personal protection" ends at the front door of your own house, the problem continues.

[Immanuel Can]

Yes, I know. I've had people try to shoot me nine or ten times, but the gun misfired every time.

That would be a truly extraordinary rate of failure, an outrageous statistical anomaly. I think you owe God a prayer of thanks you're still breathing. The guns in the rest of the world seem to be working much more predictably.

[henry quirk]

Owning personal protection firearms is cowardly.

It's very nice you have an opinion. However...

I won't be givin' up my Stoeger , or have it taken from me.

Statistics show that owning a personal protection firearm is far more dangerous than not owning one. Risks include suicide, domestic violence,, and being shot by an armed intruder

Irrelevant, even if true.

Behaving irrationally out of fear is cowardly.

Irrelevant.

Fear is the only reasonable reason for keeping a pp firearm.

Irrelevant, even if true.

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Bottomline: until I unjustly deprive another of life, liberty, or property, by way of my shotgun, my shotgun is no one's business.

[LuckyR]

Montana?

Hey, these days, anywhere they've got a school or a mall is a danger zone.

You said "your home", so I'm talking neighborhoods, not states.

"Personal protection" was the term used. Unless the need for "personal protection" ends at the front door of your own house, the problem continues.

Nice bait and switch attempt.

"A crack addict breaks into your home, along with his gang members, to loot your house" was what I was responding to.

BTW if you are going to use personal protection to help yourself at the mall, a "personal protection" gun isn't going to cut it, you're going to need to concealed carry everywhere you go, which is a whole other level of paranoia well beyond this thread's discussion so far.

[Alexiev]

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Bottomline: until I unjustly deprive another of life, liberty, or property, by way of my shotgun, my shotgun is no one's business.

If you noticed, I made no assertions about gun control, only about the cowardice of those who own them for protection. You are free to be as craven as you want to be. Good luck and gave a good day! Be careful, though. Don't go out in the sun. Your shadow might frighten you.

[henry quirk]

If you noticed, I made no assertions about gun control

True.

[Immanuel Can]

You said "your home", so I'm talking neighborhoods, not states.

"Personal protection" was the term used. Unless the need for "personal protection" ends at the front door of your own house, the problem continues.

"A crack addict breaks into your home, along with his gang members, to loot your house" was what I was responding to.

The point still carries. "Personal protection" is clearly not limited to home situations. You know that.

[promethean75]

Gotta sit this one out, boys. That constitutional right does not belong to me. I carry nunchucks.

[henry quirk]

Gotta sit this one out, boys. That constitutional right does not belong to me. I carry nunchucks.

Dick flashin' is perverted. You shoulda been ostracized, not jailed. And, whether, the law likes it or not, you still have a natural right to any property you choose...including a gun.

[promethean75]

Now this is interesting.

Is it the exposed reproductive fluid delivery system appendage (RFDSA) that is offensive, or is it the context in which the RFDSA is exposed, that makes it offensive?

If the former, then streakers, nudists, male patients being examined, male athletes in locker rooms and boys getting baths by their moms are all perverts and should be criminalized.

If the latter, then the perverse nature of the act is not exclusive to the exposure of the RFDSA, and becomes perverted only in certain contexts.

Then question is, what makes the pervert a pervert? That he whips it out, or that he whips it out here instead of there?

"You shoulda been ostracized, not jailed."

Don't u worry, i got both.

And I disagree. 'indecent' exposure is grounds for being imprisoned (tho not for long... certainly not four years).

"And, whether, the law likes it or not, you still have a natural right to any property you choose...including a gun."

I disagree. There is no 'right' to carry a gun. There is a law that says u can (and this is not a 'right', just a rule enforced by a power) or there is the balls (another power) to do so if the law doesn't permit u to.

[henry quirk]

indecent' exposure is grounds for being imprisoned (tho not for long... certainly not four years).

Really? On what grounds do you reckon that to be so? Morality is a fiction, a spook, yes? The law is nuthin' but might makes right, yes? You mean to say: in my opinion, indecent' exposure is grounds for being imprisoned, don't you?

[promethean75]

People get into large groups called societies and then they agree on what they all should and shouldn't do. Next they create a police force that enforces the rules they made up. If one of those rules is 'u can't whip it out', and somebody whips it out, that person may be penalized. Penalties may include being incarcerated.

This isn't an 'opinion' is it?

[Impenitent]

People get into large groups called societies and then they agree on what they all should and shouldn't do. Next they create a police force that enforces the rules they made up. If one of those rules is 'u can't whip it out', and somebody whips it out, that person may be penalized. Penalties may include being incarcerated.

This isn't an 'opinion' is it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPnrAkG-3sM

"When in doubt, I whip it out- got me a rock and roll band, it's a free for all..." -Nugent

-Imp

[henry quirk]

People get into large groups called societies and then they agree on what they all should and shouldn't do. Next they create a police force that enforces the rules they made up. If one of those rules is 'u can't whip it out', and somebody whips it out, that person may be penalized. Penalties may include being incarcerated.

This isn't an 'opinion' is it?

Hold on.

This is the full exchange...

Me: You shoulda been ostracized, not jailed.

You: Don't u worry, i got both. And I disagree. 'indecent' exposure is grounds for being imprisoned (tho not for long... certainly not four years).

What you seem to say is: I, pro, personally believe indecent exposure is grounds for imprisonment, not society and its enforcers say indecent exposure is grounds for imprisonment.

It's the And I disagree. that trips me up.

[attofishpi]

..whether, the law likes it or not, you still have a natural right to any property you choose...including a gun.

IF I created a weapon with the ability to kill all men within fifty kilometre radius, do you think you have the right to own it if I am selling? ..and by the same measure, do you think all wo/men have equal right to own this weapon?