The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

[Harbal]

I just like throwing Trump videos in the face of TDS sufferers.

What makes you think they watch the video?

[Wizard22]

Because you TDS sufferers love to hate Trump...out of Envy.

Nothing inverts you more than Trump can and does.

[Harbal]

Because you TDS sufferers love to hate Trump...out of Envy.

But I avoid clicking on links to videos with him in them. The very sight of him makes me nauseous.

[henry quirk]

Geez.

What do you do when your best wisecracks go right past 'em?

Prep the chopper.

Why?

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[Immanuel Can]

Because you TDS sufferers love to hate Trump...out of Envy.

Nothing inverts you more than Trump can and does.

I have to agree...and it really puzzles me.

Why did this leftover Democrat and media figure, Donald Trump, become such an odious figure to all Democrats? Because he made locker-talk about a woman? That barely seems to register, with them: they still love Clinton, the serial rapist. Because he had documents? So did Biden. Because he "colluded with Russia"? That's been utterly debunked...and in any case, whatever he did with documents or any nation, it was all long after they started grinding their teeth at him.

Really, I cannot remember a single politician so hated and feared by the Left. Even Reagan was nowhere near so vilified. Yet they've given us no reason adequate to their antipathy at all. And while the Left seems to want us all to believe Trump is the ultimate in evil, they simultaneously want us to overlook Clinton, the Bidens and others. They want us to ignore the laptop -- which is, beyond possibility of doubt, Hunter Biden's, and they want us not to believe that "the Big Guy" could possibly refer to Joe. And where is the Epstein list? And why do the Democrats absolutely hate a new movie that merely decries child trafficking? And why is the oil supply running out, and everybody getting poorer, and the urban areas aflame or under mountains of feces and needles...

It's all very puzzling...and very worrisome. What I have to think is that he was threatening the deep state establishment in some way...plausibly by wanting to end foreign wars, and thus cutting off the federal tax-grab-and-money-laundering scam that provides politicians with all their wealth. But we are not being told the real reason for the hatred of Trump. Of that much, we can be quite sure.

[Harbal]

Why did this leftover Democrat and media figure, Donald Trump, become such an odious figure to all Democrats?

I think he is widely despised by so many because he is a lying, narcissistic scum bag. And it needn't be anything to do with party politics. I for instance, loath the obnoxious specimen, and I have no interest in American politics whatsoever. I can see why you find him tolerable, however. The sickening, cynical way in which he pandered to the Christian Evangelicals in return for support went down a treat with you, I imagine. He is a habitual liar, totally lacking in moral sensibility, an adulterer, and God knows what else, so I am baffled by how you can defend him and still claim to be true to the God you are always promoting. It comes across as more than a little hypercritical to me, if you don't mind my saying.

[Alexis Jacobi]

You are just making a fool of yourself.
Biden got 6 million more votes than Trump.
Like I said before - get a life.

Note that we have an electoral college system: winning, or losing, a given state renders one a certain number of electoral votes.

If Trump picked up the right mix of 42,921 votes in Arizona (10,457), Georgia (11,779), and Wisconsin (20,682) the electoral college votes would have been tied.

The number of votes that determined his loss was in that range. Had he received 45,000 more votes in 3-4 states, he’d have won.

The ultimate number of total popular votes is not relevant. That is why key states become electoral college vote battlegrounds.

The electoral college system was established to keep the most populous states, and the urban centers, from domination outlying areas. Its Constitutional.

My own view is that Democrats played hardball with mail in ballots, and the Big Tech industries seemed to have throttled Donald Trump. Additionally, the intelligence and political establishment worked to a degree nefariously to inhibit his re-election.

You may hate DT but he did an absolutely extraordinary thing by blowing the lid off the established political establishment of the US.

I will definitely vote for him but mostly because I am opposed to the current régime (or Deep State if you wish).

[Immanuel Can]

Why did this leftover Democrat and media figure, Donald Trump, become such an odious figure to all Democrats?

I think he is widely despised by so many because he is a lying, narcissistic scum bag.

Nothing that the Democrats have accused him of is anything we haven't caught the Democrats doing...and much, much worse, in some cases. So it can't be that the "moral outrage" they are putting on is convincing anybody. No, there's much more than that going on, for sure.

They have their reasons, no doubt: but I'm certain it's nothing to do with the public reasons they want us to believe.

I am baffled by how you can defend him

Look back: you'll find I didn't. I didn't say one thing about him, either way, except that he's "leftover Democrat" and "media figure." I even mentioned his "locker talk," and the allegation of document mishandling... If you get "defend" out of that, I don't know how. Maybe you can explain.

But your reaction is also interesting: failure to criticize Trump, mentioning only the same things the Dems do, or even my sort of vague dismissal of him, is taken to be "defending" him?

The problem's clearly not with me. You've nicely illustrated the point, though.

[Alexis Jacobi]

I think he is widely despised by so many because he is a lying, narcissistic scum bag. And it needn't be anything to do with party politics. I for instance, loath the obnoxious specimen, and I have no interest in American politics whatsoever. I can see why you find him tolerable, however. The sickening, cynical way in which he pandered to the Christian Evangelicals in return for support went down a treat with you, I imagine. He is a habitual liar, totally lacking in moral sensibility, an adulterer, and God knows what else, so I am baffled by how you can defend him and still claim to be true to the God you are always promoting. It comes across as more than a little hypercritical to me, if you don't mind my saying.

By your own admission you have no interest in US politics. That means also no substantial understanding of the culture, nor importantly The Culture Wars and the point they have come to.

So your contempt for DT, though understandable, is superficial. And superficial understanding (of anything) is never enough.

Presently, DT seems to be the only alternative to the present régime.

Allen Dershowitz has some very valid perspectives. And he is totally grounded in the US Constitution.

[Sculptor]

You are just making a fool of yourself.
Biden got 6 million more votes than Trump.
Like I said before - get a life.

Note that we have an electoral college system: winning, or losing, a given state renders one a certain number of electoral votes.

If Trump picked up the right mix of 42,921 votes in Arizona (10,457), Georgia (11,779), and Wisconsin (20,682) the electoral college votes would have been tied.

The number of votes that determined his loss was in that range. Had he received 45,000 more votes in 3-4 states, he’d have won.

The ultimate number of total popular votes is not relevant. That is why key states become electoral college vote battlegrounds.

The electoral college system was established to keep the most populous states, and the urban centers, from domination outlying areas. Its Constitutional.

My own view is that Democrats played hardball with mail in ballots, and the Big Tech industries seemed to have throttled Donald Trump. Additionally, the intelligence and political establishment worked to a degree nefariously to inhibit his re-election.

You may hate DT but he did an absolutely extraordinary thing by blowing the lid off the established political establishment of the US.

I will definitely vote for him but mostly because I am opposed to the current régime (or Deep State if you wish).

Yes I know all that. The electoral collage system is corrupt and unfairly favours Republicans.
So Trump won with a minority of the popular vote. In 2020 he got 6 million fewer votes - but definitely lost
Successful states that have grown and done well have devalued polular votes, whilst old dead red states will low populations enjoy a legacy of a high proportion of electors per voter ratio.
The collage was designed to ensure that populist candidates would be stopped by wise men chosen as electors rather than the hoi polloi.
They had one job to do to stop Trump and they failed.

Trump IS the deep state. He is a crook, and part of a MOB including Guiliani.
You are an idiot.
Trump has done nothing but suck his own DICK.
GET A FUCKING LIFE

[Alexis Jacobi]

Trump IS the deep state. He is a crook, and part of a MOB including Giuliani. You are an idiot. Trump has done nothing but suck his own DICK. GET A FUCKING LIFE

Deep State is a term that has to be carefully unpacked. But I think you are wrong. Trump is many things but not a “Deep State Operative”.

Since I don’t respond to sheer hysteria I don’t have more to comment.

This issue is of extremely vital concern though. But to understand the ramifications requires a somewhat clearer head than the one you have.

Don’t bother with it. I post it for other readers.

[henry quirk]

Trump...is a crook

Trump is as big a cheater and liar as anyone else. Thing is: he's my liar and cheater.

'nuff said.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Trump...is a crook

Trump is as big a cheater and liar as anyone else. Thing is: he's my liar and cheater.

'nuff said.

It's sweet that you stand by your man, Tammy.

[henry quirk]

Trump...is a crook

Trump is as big a cheater and liar as anyone else. Thing is: he's my liar and cheater.

'nuff said.

It's sweet that you stand by your man, Tammy.

Thanks for noticin', Butch.

[Wizard22]

I have to agree...and it really puzzles me.

Why did this leftover Democrat and media figure, Donald Trump, become such an odious figure to all Democrats? Because he made locker-talk about a woman? That barely seems to register, with them: they still love Clinton, the serial rapist. Because he had documents? So did Biden. Because he "colluded with Russia"? That's been utterly debunked...and in any case, whatever he did with documents or any nation, it was all long after they started grinding their teeth at him.

Really, I cannot remember a single politician so hated and feared by the Left. Even Reagan was nowhere near so vilified. Yet they've given us no reason adequate to their antipathy at all. And while the Left seems to want us all to believe Trump is the ultimate in evil, they simultaneously want us to overlook Clinton, the Bidens and others. They want us to ignore the laptop -- which is, beyond possibility of doubt, Hunter Biden's, and they want us not to believe that "the Big Guy" could possibly refer to Joe. And where is the Epstein list? And why do the Democrats absolutely hate a new movie that merely decries child trafficking? And why is the oil supply running out, and everybody getting poorer, and the urban areas aflame or under mountains of feces and needles...

It's all very puzzling...and very worrisome. What I have to think is that he was threatening the deep state establishment in some way...plausibly by wanting to end foreign wars, and thus cutting off the federal tax-grab-and-money-laundering scam that provides politicians with all their wealth. But we are not being told the real reason for the hatred of Trump. Of that much, we can be quite sure.

The Liberal-Left feel betrayed by Trump. He used to be "one of them" (an Elitist), before he ran for President among the Republicans. And nobody is hated more than a "traitor". He was rich, popular, a media star, ran the Miss Universe contests, wasn't he even pro-choice in his early life? New York is dominated by Democrats.

The second important factor, is that after the Bush presidency debacles, the Liberal-Left felt that they had an unimpeded pathway to Total power and control, over the entire United States. The Obama administration expected to walkover the 2020 elections, with Hilary Clinton. That Trump disrupted their path for total control, irked them and drove them into madness. They thought and expected, no resistance to their takeover.

Hence why Hilary Clinton referred to US Conservatives/Republicans, those who voted for Trump, as "The Deplorables"...the same American stock that fought and won every world war, and were sent to die in Vietnam. Hence these deep rifts of hatred and contempt forming...the Biden Administration started purging Conservatives from the military when he acquired Office, hence why they promote and spread LGBTQ+ in the military now. "Globohomo".