The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

How should society be organised, if at all?

Moderators: AMod, iMod

Gary Childress
Posts: 11746
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:08 pm
Location: It's my fault

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by Gary Childress »

Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:13 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:28 pm You two do know the copter rides flash referenced are about tossin' commies out the door from a high altitude, right?
Geez.

What do you do when your best wisecracks go right past 'em?
Well if you'd just say what you mean and mean what you say, then there wouldn't be any problem, now would there? ¯\_(*_*)_/¯
User avatar
vegetariantaxidermy
Posts: 13975
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:45 am
Location: Narniabiznus

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by vegetariantaxidermy »

I wouldn't know what he's referring too. Sounds like it's probably the kind of 'black hole' blokey 'humour' that doesn't interest me.
Wizard22
Posts: 3283
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:16 am

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by Wizard22 »

Gary Childress wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:27 pmThose two graphs seem to indicate a sudden spike at the end of the election in favor of Democrats. Is that a correct interpretation of them? And are we reasonably sure those graphs are accurate?
Yes they are, they recorded the vote count per district across the entire country at the times they were given.
Wizard22
Posts: 3283
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:16 am

Re: Your republic is fine, stop being weird

Post by Wizard22 »

FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:47 pmThe Trump campaign launched about 80 law suits after the election making claims of all sorts of fraud, with no evidence. some of their lawyers made presentations to the courts so feeble that they are still in the process of losing their law licenses for it. The process of counting the votes is overseen by representatives of both parties and many neutral third parties. It's tranpsarent, highly regulated, and enormous effort goes into uncovering actual fraud. Your elections are among the best in the world and they are audited to keep it that way.

You have been on this site for years, enough time to see the American far-right in action over and over again. You've seen Walker, Henry, IC, Impenitent and latterly GrandWizzzard22 in action, but it seems you haven't paid any attention.

They don't care if the current conspiracy theory they are wielding is bullshit, they will have a new one tomorrow and another new one the day after that. They had the ten thousand dead voters thing, which was bullshit, just a list of dead people who had names similar to living ones who voted. But Henry and Walker never admitted that was a lie, they moved onto the next lie before having to find out. They had the suitcases full of fake votes - Rudy G has admitted in court filings already that one was a lie and he's going to lose everything he owns for it. Then they moved on to believing in Italian satellites interfering with the votes, and accepted as evidence the say so of a time traveller. A FUCKING TIME TRAVELLER!!!!!!! Why are we pretending to take this shit seriously?

They don't want to believe that their hero lost an election, so they believe absolutely anything else. Even.... and I'm not sure if I mentioned this already .... FUCKING TIME TRAVELLERS. They are pros at believing things that their allies believe no matter how stupid just to belong.

What is the point in compromising with them? Why rearrange the entire universe to suit somebody who will still assume everything is a lie if they aren't getting their way? Grandwizzard22 is going to believe that a coalition of jews robbed him of victory because that is what he has come to believe every time he is inconvenienced. It will never change, he will never improve. Neither will Immanuel Can or Henry Q. They are all lost souls now, none of them can come back from the conspiratorial gloom they inhabit.
Blah blah blah leftist-libby-woke propaganda propaganda propaganda...

I'll gladly accept all of your insults, lies, and slander, on the condition you recognize and admit to your Illiteracy. I can't imagine how devastating it must be, to read words, sentences, paragraphs, and not understand half of them...I pity you, poopypants.
Wizard22
Posts: 3283
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:16 am

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by Wizard22 »

To all the doubters in this thread, I give you Exhibit B: (this is UN-EDITED authentic video by the way, he actually said this)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGRnhBmHYN0
Wizard22
Posts: 3283
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:16 am

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by Wizard22 »

I don't think many of the Wokies are awake to another fact:

Google, Twitter, Facebook, Main Stream Media, all explicitly and spiked "misinformation" (it was actually true and correct information) about the fraud while it was happening, and for the next year thereafter. The amount of censorship and propaganda that went into 2020, 2021, 2022, will forever go down in history as unprecedent, unbelievable to future generations.

Worse than Orwell could have possibly imagined.


The CCP drools over Western media's control of the population. They wish they were half as effective.

The Roman Catholics, during the Dark Age, are surely impressed too. They didn't even need to threaten the peasants with brutal tortures to get what they want nowadays.
commonsense
Posts: 5380
Joined: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:38 pm

Re: Your republic is fine, stop being weird

Post by commonsense »

Wizard22 wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:23 am
Blah blah blah leftist-libby-woke propaganda propaganda propaganda...
Again, how can you call yourself a philosopher?
User avatar
henry quirk
Posts: 16379
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: 🔥AMERICA🔥
Contact:

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by henry quirk »

Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:13 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:28 pm You two do know the copter rides flash referenced are about tossin' commies out the door from a high altitude, right?
Geez.

What do you do when your best wisecracks go right past 'em?
Prep the chopper.
promethean75
Posts: 7113
Joined: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:29 pm

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by promethean75 »

Everybahdy get to de choppa then?
Gary Childress
Posts: 11746
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:08 pm
Location: It's my fault

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by Gary Childress »

henry quirk wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:07 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:13 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:28 pm You two do know the copter rides flash referenced are about tossin' commies out the door from a high altitude, right?
Geez.

What do you do when your best wisecracks go right past 'em?
Prep the chopper.
Why?
Wizard22
Posts: 3283
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:16 am

Re: Your republic is fine, stop being weird

Post by Wizard22 »

commonsense wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:50 pmAgain, how can you call yourself a philosopher?
Quite easily:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LQozNeHUdI
Iwannaplato
Posts: 8532
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:55 pm

Re: Your republic is fine, stop being weird

Post by Iwannaplato »

Wizard22 wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:50 am
commonsense wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:50 pmAgain, how can you call yourself a philosopher?
Quite easily:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LQozNeHUdI
You're a philosopher because Trump said those things? How do his actions give you abilities and qualities?
Wizard22
Posts: 3283
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:16 am

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by Wizard22 »

I just like throwing Trump videos in the face of TDS sufferers.

Partisan politics doesn't really mesh with philosophy anyway.

I may as well prove God doesn't exist to the religious fundamentalists, and God does exist to the atheists, while I'm at it...
Iwannaplato
Posts: 8532
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:55 pm

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by Iwannaplato »

Wizard22 wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:46 am I just like throwing Trump videos in the face of TDS sufferers.

Partisan politics doesn't really mesh with philosophy anyway.

I may as well prove God doesn't exist to the religious fundamentalists, and God does exist to the atheists, while I'm at it...
Or (and/or) different people want different things and the problem is we are in the same society and compromise can be impossible or lose lose. We can run around saying they are bad, stupid, wrong - which certainly can be possible and different side may be correct in these judgments at times - but perhaps it is often that we truly deep down want different kinds of lives. And it would be best if we (in some magical alternative universe) could live on different planets.
Wizard22
Posts: 3283
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:16 am

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by Wizard22 »

When it comes to these types of arguments though, it bends to raw, unbridled, political power.

Philosophical influence might be part of that, somehow...but it's quite irrelevant. I think philosophers and hobbyists are more obliged to see these political disputes Historically first. How will the future generations see it? How do other countries around the world, see it right now? How is it any different, or the same as, a banana republic when American politicians now turn to jail their political rivals that they can't beat democratically? Yet they call themselves "democrats"? Maybe they're not?

Maybe they're communists?
Post Reply