The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

How should society be organised, if at all?

Moderators: AMod, iMod

User avatar
henry quirk
Posts: 16379
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: 🔥AMERICA🔥
Contact:

Re: Your republic is fine, stop being weird

Post by henry quirk »

Gary Childress wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:12 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:11 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:01 pm
No more or less than the world owes you.
Well, you have life, liberty and property, along with freedom of belief and conscience. That's what the world owes me. So that would mean it owes you nothing more than you've already got.
Funny. I don't remember ever saying the world owed me. Did someone put words in my mouth somewhere?
You said...
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:15 pmHenry doesn't want anyone to inconvenience him over having any sort of duty to society other than to protect his property
Apparently, there's some kind of duty I have that I'm shirking, according to you.

So: what's my duty?
User avatar
henry quirk
Posts: 16379
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: 🔥AMERICA🔥
Contact:

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by henry quirk »

commonsense wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:58 pm How can you call yourself a philosopher when your brain is as permeable as a brick?

You know who I’m talking to.
Must be me. Fortunately I am not my brain.
promethean75
Posts: 7113
Joined: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:29 pm

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by promethean75 »

"And that, kids, is why daddy owns a shotgun."

Noted and flagged. Poster very frequently talks about bazookas, hand grenades of various colors (with a preference for orange) and now shotguns. Also shows signs of complete disdain for authority and government of any form.
User avatar
henry quirk
Posts: 16379
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: 🔥AMERICA🔥
Contact:

Re: Your republic is fine, stop being weird

Post by henry quirk »

Gary Childress wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:20 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:18 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:12 pm Funny. I don't remember ever saying the world owed me. Did someone put words in my mouth somewhere?
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:15 pm
Henry doesn't want anyone to inconvenience him over having any sort of duty to society other than to protect his property (which his body is also apparently a part of).
I assume that was intended as a criticism of Henry's position, was it not? So you must think there's all kinds of other "duties" that Henry is overlooking, there. I just wanted to know what you thought they were.

So the person who opened his mouth on the subject was...you. :shock:
Does the word "owe" appear in what I said, oh great swammi?
Oh, so I don't owe anyone anything?

Great.

Still wondering what duty I'm inconvenienced by.
User avatar
Immanuel Can
Posts: 27604
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:42 pm

Re: Your republic is fine, stop being weird

Post by Immanuel Can »

Gary Childress wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:24 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:22 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:20 pm

Does the word "owe" appear in what I said, oh great swammi?
No. But the term "duty to society" does, which implies "owed to society"...so you must think that the individual has some such duty or "owing", and it must be some you think Henry is failing to recognize.

So what is it?
Is "duty" owed or is it something a person does without "owing" it?
You implied that the individual has "duties" to society. It was your word. I'm just asking you to fill out what you meant.
User avatar
henry quirk
Posts: 16379
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: 🔥AMERICA🔥
Contact:

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by henry quirk »

promethean75 wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:43 pm "And that, kids, is why daddy owns a shotgun."

Noted and flagged. Poster very frequently talks about bazookas, hand grenades of various colors (with a preference for orange) and now shotguns. Also shows signs of complete disdain for authority and government of any form.
yes, with enthusiasm
promethean75
Posts: 7113
Joined: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:29 pm

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by promethean75 »

7xhd58.jpg
Gary Childress
Posts: 11747
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:08 pm
Location: It's my fault

Re: Your republic is fine, stop being weird

Post by Gary Childress »

henry quirk wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:38 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:12 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:11 pm
Well, you have life, liberty and property, along with freedom of belief and conscience. That's what the world owes me. So that would mean it owes you nothing more than you've already got.
Funny. I don't remember ever saying the world owed me. Did someone put words in my mouth somewhere?
You said...
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:15 pmHenry doesn't want anyone to inconvenience him over having any sort of duty to society other than to protect his property
Apparently, there's some kind of duty I have that I'm shirking, according to you.

So: what's my duty?
It was an unfair comment. If we have no duty to society, then we have no duty to society or anyone else, for that matter.
User avatar
henry quirk
Posts: 16379
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: 🔥AMERICA🔥
Contact:

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by henry quirk »

promethean75 wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:54 pm 7xhd58.jpg
I'm glad Saint Max would approve, but what counts is: it pleases me.
User avatar
henry quirk
Posts: 16379
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: 🔥AMERICA🔥
Contact:

Re: Your republic is fine, stop being weird

Post by henry quirk »

Gary Childress wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:03 pmIt was an unfair comment.
Not unfair: it was wrong.
Gary Childress
Posts: 11747
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:08 pm
Location: It's my fault

Re: Your republic is fine, stop being weird

Post by Gary Childress »

henry quirk wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:27 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:03 pmIt was an unfair comment.
Not unfair: it was wrong.
OK.
commonsense
Posts: 5380
Joined: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:38 pm

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by commonsense »

henry quirk wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:41 pm
commonsense wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:58 pm How can you call yourself a philosopher when your brain is as permeable as a brick?

You know who I’m talking to.
Must be me. Fortunately I am not my brain.
You’re not the only one 😁
User avatar
henry quirk
Posts: 16379
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: 🔥AMERICA🔥
Contact:

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by henry quirk »

commonsense wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:02 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:41 pm
commonsense wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:58 pm How can you call yourself a philosopher when your brain is as permeable as a brick?

You know who I’m talking to.
Must be me. Fortunately I am not my brain.
You’re not the only one 😁
Yeah, no one is.
User avatar
vegetariantaxidermy
Posts: 13975
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:45 am
Location: Narniabiznus

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by vegetariantaxidermy »

henry quirk wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:41 pm
commonsense wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:58 pm How can you call yourself a philosopher when your brain is as permeable as a brick?

You know who I’m talking to.
Must be me. Fortunately I am not my brain.
Then which part of your anatomy are you?
User avatar
FlashDangerpants
Posts: 8815
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:54 pm

Re: The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

Post by FlashDangerpants »

promethean75 wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:43 pm "And that, kids, is why daddy owns a shotgun."

Noted and flagged. Poster very frequently talks about bazookas, hand grenades of various colors (with a preference for orange) and now shotguns. Also shows signs of complete disdain for authority and government of any form.
🚁 don't forget to enquire within for all your aerial needs. Quirk air promises the most exciting helicopter rides this side of Santiago. 🚁
Post Reply