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Re: Racism

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Wizard22 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:34 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:35 pmSo in this instance you offer no causal role for race at all and attribute everything to culture. Remember you are the one who instriduced True racisms, so you need to assign a causal role to actual races.
I commend you on your baiting skills...

I offered you "many" reasons but the one I chose was reinforcement of selected traits, particularly intelligence and IQ. The implication of this is sexual preference and mate-selection. In other words, women sexually desire a trait (choose any one: height, physique, intelligence, wealth, social status, race, religion, etc.) and then children are produced by these Causes. This reinforces the original trait, therefore the original Cause. The problem and drawback of single-trait selection though, is that it produces anomalies which cannot survive of their own volition: Savantism, Autism, Neuroticism, Schizophrenia and other forms of Socio/Psycho/Pathologies. In other words, polymaths can be produced, but they can be so socially autistic and anti-social as to then not reproduce themselves.
What is that irrelevant segue on behalf of? Are you trying to argue that some races are genetically superior in some mental categories than others or are you just trying to hint at it without daring to actually say it?

Wizard22 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:34 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:35 pmWhat factual assertion are you promoting? That on a dating site where most of the users are white those users statistically are more likely to match to other white people? Amateurish shit.
1) It is factual information.
2) A higher preponderance of "white" online-dating users, does not infer that they would be racially favored by non-white Users.

So you're wrong on both accounts. You still need to explain for why whites outperform other races in general dating desirability.
Word salad. You are tasked with explaining how this evidence demonstrates that white people are more attractive than non white people, and you are providing no objective measurement to support your interpretation of already unimpressive data.
Wizard22 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:34 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:35 pmHow did you statistically correct for externalities to arrive at that testosterone claim? I'm not so much concerned about the claim that testosterone levels vary between races, but the claim that this variance is more important than those other factors is unsupported. You are finally assigning a causal role to race here, you must show that you are capable of doing that work.
I studied Anthropology for about a decade. Testosterone is an obvious tell because it produces 'Sexual Dimorphism' in races which alters appearance. This is why, for example, in East Asians, males and females tend to look more 'similar' to each-other than compared to high-testosterone ethnicities and groups. This is as obvious as very large Height differences between males and females.

Which race on Earth has the highest difference of tall male to short female on the extremes?

Answer:

White Europeans (Dutch-Danish-Scandinavians) and,
Black Americans (basketball players).

So this implies a larger than average Testosterone average in these groups of males.
You were supposed to be explaining how you corrected for externalities to arrive at the conclusion that testosterone is the primary cause of violence. You didn't even attempt to do that. The claim cannot stand.
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Re: Racism

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:54 pmWhat is that irrelevant segue on behalf of? Are you trying to argue that some races are genetically superior in some mental categories than others or are you just trying to hint at it without daring to actually say it?
You said it...not me. Let the record be shown.

If that's all your brain can surmise of what I've said, then so be it.

FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:54 pmWord salad. You are tasked with explaining how this evidence demonstrates that white people are more attractive than non white people, and you are providing no objective measurement to support your interpretation of already unimpressive data.
Data from dating websites is scientific evidence. Or, you could just use your eyes and look around at dating scenes in Cosmopolitan cities. You demonstrate no Neutrality. Therefore even you cannot offer a context in which all races & ethnicities of the world have "equal chances" at securing women of other races. The premise here, is that people generally want to race-mix. Do they? And with whom?

You are proving your own biases, and unable to look into deeper causes.

Wizard22 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:34 amYou were supposed to be explaining how you corrected for externalities to arrive at the conclusion that testosterone is the primary cause of violence. You didn't even attempt to do that. The claim cannot stand.
If you don't know how Height corresponds with testosterone, then you are far below my IQ level to educate, sorry.

Go back to Reddit.
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Re: Racism

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Rmemeber when you had big bollocks and wanted to call me out and frighten me with all the 'true racism'? You were gonna spit cold hard facts and make soooo sad with them. Here's a quote of how great you were planning to be....
Wizard22 wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:16 am Is "Racism" inherently wrong or immoral? What about when it's True? I suspect that double-digit IQ pooeypants, would say Yes-absolutely, it's especially racist when it's true. Thus, to a moron like him, merely making others aware of US FBI Crime Statistics, dats racis! And pointing-out BLM+Antifa riots had a net negative effect on the black community and American society in general, dats racis! And Joe Biden or Hunter Biden saying some of the most racist shit imaginable... dats not racist???

So why the double-standard? Return to my main arguments in this thread.

Because it's politically-convenient for the liberal-left-wokies, to accuse others of racism, offload their own guilt, be politically Offensive (not Defensive), and then they don't have to worry about "their own racism" because it's never an issue...for them. Why would it be? It's (morally) forgivable *edit* for them to be racist, but not the conservative-right.

Now let's watch flashpoopants do some mental backflips, wave around his illiteracy on full public display, like a July 4th Firework celebration, and see what kind of Ad Homs, emoting, we can produce??
Public fantasising about how cool you will look as you smash your enemies is kinda pathetic but if you can make it come true then all is forgiven I guess.... but when the time comes for you to produce something, you had fuck all.

You didn't even dare to say the racist bit about IQs because you are too weak to actually say what you mean. You weren't able to tie the data to the interpretation for the attractiveness thing because the hypothesis doesn't meet any objective standard, and you ended just saying that some races are tall, including the Dutch.

Just sad.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:29 amPublic fantasising about how cool you will look as you smash your enemies is kinda pathetic but if you can make it come true then all is forgiven I guess.... but when the time comes for you to produce something, you had fuck all.

You didn't even dare to say the racist bit about IQs because you are too weak to actually say what you mean. You weren't able to tie the data to the interpretation for the attractiveness thing because the hypothesis doesn't meet any objective standard, and you ended just saying that some races are tall, including the Dutch.

Just sad.
All you've proven is that you don't know what you're talking about.

You are very liberal, zionist, far-left, and believe in liberal "education" (propaganda, indoctrination), so your conception of "Racism" and IQ-genetic-heritability are obviously, flagrantly false and wrong.

I can break your conditioning and false-beliefs, but that requires more honesty from you first.


Facts
White males and females are the highest desirability on average for miscegenation.
This is because of the prominence of Western Civilization in political & economic power.
Beauty standards revolve around Western (White) women.
Miscegenation is not generally practiced around the world, except in Cosmopolitan areas.
Miscegenation coincides directly with Liberalism/Zionism/Marxism (your worldview).
Miscegenation also coincides with pro-Immigration policies and Desegregation (Liberalism).
IQ and Intelligence have scientifically measured degrees of genetic heritability.
Genetic heritability reflects dating, and therefore mating-patterns.

You took a look at the top layer of my argument, and cowered from it.

This says a helluvalot more about you, than me.
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Re: Racism

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Wizard22 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:05 am miscegenation.

Miscegenation
Miscegenation

Is that even a word??
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Re: Racism

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Wizard22 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:05 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:29 amPublic fantasising about how cool you will look as you smash your enemies is kinda pathetic but if you can make it come true then all is forgiven I guess.... but when the time comes for you to produce something, you had fuck all.

You didn't even dare to say the racist bit about IQs because you are too weak to actually say what you mean. You weren't able to tie the data to the interpretation for the attractiveness thing because the hypothesis doesn't meet any objective standard, and you ended just saying that some races are tall, including the Dutch.

Just sad.
All you've proven is that you don't know what you're talking about.

You are very liberal, zionist, far-left, and believe in liberal "education" (propaganda, indoctrination), so your conception of "Racism" and IQ-genetic-heritability are obviously, flagrantly false and wrong.

I can break your conditioning and false-beliefs, but that requires more honesty from you first.


Facts
White males and females are the highest desirability on average for miscegenation.
This is because of the prominence of Western Civilization in political & economic power.
Beauty standards revolve around Western (White) women.
Miscegenation is not generally practiced around the world, except in Cosmopolitan areas.
Miscegenation coincides directly with Liberalism/Zionism/Marxism (your worldview).
Miscegenation also coincides with pro-Immigration policies and Desegregation (Liberalism).
IQ and Intelligence have scientifically measured degrees of genetic heritability.
Genetic heritability reflects dating, and therefore mating-patterns.

You took a look at the top layer of my argument, and cowered from it.

This says a helluvalot more about you, than me.
Mild taunts work surprisingly well on you.

It's notable that you assign Desegregation to Liberalism, and link Liberalism along with Marxism and Zionism with my worldview. So you are in favour of segregation?

Let's work ou what this "true racism" really is please and let's not waste my time on your coyness, you aren't Jacobi, so just say the things you mean.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:19 amIs that even a word??
Google it, vege.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:23 amMild taunts work surprisingly well on you.
Correct.

FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:23 amIt's notable that you assign Desegregation to Liberalism, and link Liberalism along with Marxism and Zionism with my worldview. So you are in favour of segregation?
As-if it were Conservative? I stated facts. I didn't say what I'm "in favor of".
Is it interesting you can't tell the difference?
Aren't you emotionally invested in 'the facts' then?

FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:23 amLet's work ou what this "true racism" really is please and let's not waste my time on your coyness, you aren't Jacobi, so just say the things you mean.
You tell me, I think "racism" is more your problem than my own.
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Wizard22 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:30 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:19 amIs that even a word??
Google it, vege.
I see that it is not a word. Thanks for the tip :D
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Wizard22 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:05 am Facts
White males and females are the highest desirability on average for miscegenation.
This is because of the prominence of Western Civilization in political & economic power.
Beauty standards revolve around Western (White) women.
Miscegenation is not generally practiced around the world, except in Cosmopolitan areas.
Miscegenation coincides directly with Liberalism/Zionism/Marxism (your worldview).
Miscegenation also coincides with pro-Immigration policies and Desegregation (Liberalism).
IQ and Intelligence have scientifically measured degrees of genetic heritability.
Genetic heritability reflects dating, and therefore mating-patterns.
I guess we have to follow whatever train of logic this weird heap represents then.

So what does the first sentence even mean? And how do you quantify the claim that "White males and females are the highest desirability on average for miscegenation." Do you have a dataset covering some specific area where all the races live in equal admixture or are you going to share your extensive data science tooling that you used to normalise the data prior to analysis?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:38 amI see that it is not a word. Thanks for the tip :D
It is...guess I have to do your work for you:

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:42 amI guess we have to follow whatever train of logic this weird heap represents then.

So what does the first sentence even mean? And how do you quantify the claim that "White males and females are the highest desirability on average for miscegenation." Do you have a dataset covering some specific area where all the races live in equal admixture or are you going to share your extensive data science tooling that you used to normalise the data prior to analysis?
I already gave you a dataset, which you ignored.
I also gave you a second dataset, your own eyes, which you also ignored.
It looks like no matter which dataset I give, you'll reject prima facie.
Why should I continue wasting my time?
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Wizard22 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:49 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:42 amI guess we have to follow whatever train of logic this weird heap represents then.

So what does the first sentence even mean? And how do you quantify the claim that "White males and females are the highest desirability on average for miscegenation." Do you have a dataset covering some specific area where all the races live in equal admixture or are you going to share your extensive data science tooling that you used to normalise the data prior to analysis?
I already gave you a dataset, which you ignored.
I also gave you a second dataset, your own eyes, which you also ignored.
It looks like no matter which dataset I give, you'll reject prima facie.
Why should I continue wasting my time?
Wizard22 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:34 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:35 pmWhat factual assertion are you promoting? That on a dating site where most of the users are white those users statistically are more likely to match to other white people? Amateurish shit.
1) It is factual information.
2) A higher preponderance of "white" online-dating users, does not infer that they would be racially favored by non-white Users.

So you're wrong on both accounts. You still need to explain for why whites outperform other races in general dating desirability.
Why are you lying?
You haven't shown me the data, you have merely said that there is data.
Show the data, let's see what it actually measures.
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Wizard22 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:48 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:38 amI see that it is not a word. Thanks for the tip :D
It is...guess I have to do your work for you:

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Stupid American made-up bullshit non-word. Just as I thought.

''The word, now usually considered pejorative, is derived from a combination of the Latin terms miscere ("to mix") and genus ("race")
The word was first coined in the U.S. in 1863 in an anonymous hoax pamphlet, and the etymology of the word is tied up with political conflicts during the American Civil War over the abolition of slavery and over the racial segregation of African Americans.''
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Wizard22 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:49 am
I already gave you a dataset, which you ignored.
But, daddy, I asked for a train set. :cry:
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