FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:28 pm
You aren't helping yourself by trying to imply that I am jewish and part of the conspiracy against you.
You have spewed the globohomo conspiracy theory here already. You have told me that jews run the baking system and are impoverishing the west to create some sort of social breakdown. You also told us that Zelensky is a zionist agent, 'sacrificing' millions of slavs. There's no point trying to wriggle, just accept that you have already revealed yourself.
If it's any consolation, Alexis JAcobi likes you just fine. I'm sure he will PM you membership details for a club with a uniform you'll look just adorable in.
You are doing what is very natural for you: working your poisons. To say "Alexis JAcobi likes you just fine" is the way that you attempt, through an association you establish, a link-of-complicity. You engage in devious means to poison what can be illuminating conversation that all can learn from.
Globohomo is an ironic term -- a meme really -- that nevertheless can be explained in clear, honest, rational terms. I can do this. Just ask! And it is no *conspiracy theory* but a late movement within American liberalism (primarily) that is being applied through Americanism to the entire world. It is global and pro-homosexual. The term is valid.
You also told us that Zelensky is a Zionist agent, 'sacrificing' millions of slavs.
Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have died -- up to 300,000 if the count I have is right -- and Ukraine
cannot win this war. The war was cynically provoked by the US in a similar manner that Iraq (2) and Afghanistan were provoked. Generally, wide swaths of people in the US have turned against this jingoism and these extremely morally reprehensible adventures. American Neo-Con interests stand behind these morally corrupt adventures. And there is always a clear link between Neo-Conservatism and support for Israel's larger policies in the region. These have been investigated and exposed by Jewish scholars -- and indeed Ha'aretz articles
regularly talk about these collusions (within limits). There is a wide-ranging critical conversation within Israeli society and in the Jewish diaspora (of about I assume you are completely ignorant).
Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have lost their lives in a war that OBVIOUSLY could have been avoided. These views are circulating widely -- everywhere except in the legacy media. Most Jews when they
are reflexively Pro-Zionist (I grew up in this environment in the California Reform community), and without thinking much about it. Zionism of this sort is deeply problematic. But then so is Israel as a modern state. These are views explored by serious
Jewish scholars.
See for example the ideas and position of (Israeli)
Miko Peled, son of an important Israeli general and an anti-Zionist.
Many Jewish Neo-Cons are understood to be without question Pro-Zionist and, given their platform and influence, are part of the last 20-30 years of incursions into Arab lands. So these things can be talked through -- fairly, carefully, rationally. But doing so will quickly earn one the label Anti-Semitic. And it will be used as you use it: to
invalidate sound arguments.
There's no point trying to wriggle, just accept that you have already revealed yourself.
In the rational conversation I envision as possible and necessary no wiggling is needed. Just a willingness to examine the facts and talk them through.
