Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:15 am
Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:02 am
What would you say is the largest, most important difference?
What if the difference was just an ''apparent arising'' of there being here a ''separate sense of self'' ?
A self that willingly chooses to stick all kinds of conceptual labels to itself?
A 'sense of self' is an apparent self-conscious entity, some energetic phenomena that is capable of being conscious of itself as being different, in the sense it has become aware as and through it's own awareness of itself, that there are ''other'' self-conscious individuals existing as well, ones that do not resemble in any way shape or form it's own self... and that these other selves come with their own different labels they have chosen to attach to themselves as well?
What if, this self-conscious entity, realises to it's horror, that it no longer has any privacy, now being aware that others exist as well, so it lives the rest of it's life in shame, in fear of being blamed and shamed for being different, when all this sense of self really wants to be, is it's pure natural self, like every other sentient animal on the planet.
Saying, 'now being aware that "others" exist as well", like EVERY "other" sentient animal ...', implies that one was NOT even YET AWARE of the so-called "other animals".
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:15 am
''Privacy'' seems to be the most important issue to the ''sense of self'' ...if one's privacy is violated by another, then that sense of self may experience, what's called a shame of maybe being different ? But who can it blame, but the other?
There is NO 'shame' EVER, that is; UNTIL "an other" SAYS, in JUDGMENT, 'things' like, 'you are ... stupid, ugly, short, or poor', and MEANS 'it' WITH DISTASTE or TO HURT.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:15 am
That to me, seems to be what's going on with humanity, they are endowed with the sense of individuality, which tends to want privacy.
'you', adult human beings, only want so-called 'privacy' BECAUSE 'you' have become AFRAID and SCARED to be Truly OPEN and Honest WITH "on another". And, this is just BECAUSE of JUDGMENT, HATRED, PUNISHMENT, RIDICULE, and/or HUMILIATION.
If 'you', adult human beings, did NOT have NOR do 'these things' upon "others", especially children, then there would NOT be following generations growing up to SCARED and AFRAID to be Truly OPEN and Honest. There, literally, would be NO need AT ALL for what is called 'privacy'.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:15 am
It's something nature has programmed humans to do, to be different, and then be shamed and blamed for it.
There IS A REASON WHY 'you', human beings, HAVE evolved 'this way'. Are 'you' YET AWARE of this VERY REASON WHY?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:15 amIt's a big mess, and to be honest, nature is very good at making a huge mess of life, it's what it does quite naturally.
But what you call a 'huge mess' here, 'we' just call 'perfection', or just 'creation evolving naturally'.