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Re: What's the Difference if any between Man and Woman?

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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:10 am There seems to be no depth to hypocrisy and pettiness. So when it comes to real virtue and vice, perverts and pedophiles waving their genitals in front of children in public, even that is not enough to put aside neighborhood feuds and personal grudges, in order to 'better' society.

Apathy is the sign of a dying civilization.
Apathy is the sign that nature is just doing what nature does.

If humans have a problem with what nature does, then humans should stop planting more children on the earth to be exposed to what nature does without reason, purpose, intent, or concern for us and our children.

We cannot change the human behavior of others, we can only change our own behavior, and live by those values and standards.

No good blaming and shaming others their prerogative to live as they behave according to their own values and standards.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:42 am
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:37 am
Age wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:32 amThe difference between 'man' and 'woman' are the sexual reproductive organs on the human body.

If you could find agreement on absolutely ANY 'thing' ELSE, then we will just have to WAIT, to SEE.
The problem is, wokies are promoting sex-hormone treatments, and genital mutilation now. A transexual male, with fake tits, and castrated stump, now claims to be a woman...

While morons like Hairball and Sculptor condone and promote him/her/it.
Not sure why you keep accusing Harbal of this. As far as I'm aware Sculptor and Peter Krpototpk are the only two full-blown wokies on this site and they both hate women.
You don't have to have fake tits or be castrated. You just have to call yourself a woman. Easy peasy. You don't even have to wear a dress. You could be a woman too, any time you want.
I don't condone or promote it. Wizard has only come to the conclusion that I do because he is a simple minded idiot.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:42 amNot sure why you keep accusing Harbal of this. As far as I'm aware Sculptor and Peter Krpototpk are the only two full-blown wokies on this site and they both hate women.
You don't have to have fake tits or be castrated. You just have to call yourself a woman. Easy peasy. You don't even have to wear a dress. You could be a woman too, any time you want.
Well...now that I have your permission...
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Harbal wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:58 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:42 am
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:37 am
The problem is, wokies are promoting sex-hormone treatments, and genital mutilation now. A transexual male, with fake tits, and castrated stump, now claims to be a woman...

While morons like Hairball and Sculptor condone and promote him/her/it.
Not sure why you keep accusing Harbal of this. As far as I'm aware Sculptor and Peter Krpototpk are the only two full-blown wokies on this site and they both hate women.
You don't have to have fake tits or be castrated. You just have to call yourself a woman. Easy peasy. You don't even have to wear a dress. You could be a woman too, any time you want.
I don't condone or promote it. Wizard has only come to the conclusion that I do because he is a simple minded idiot.
I think he lumped me in there too. He does seem to be 'mentally challenged'...
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Age wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:48 amAND, what IS the, ACTUAL, 'problem' here?

To me, the word 'problem' has a VERY SPECIFIC MEANING. What does the word 'problem' even MEAN, to you?
You need to not be autistic to understand.

We live in a society, a Western Civilization.

Your actions affect others, for better or worse.

And it looks like for the worse might be winning at the moment...
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:02 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:42 amNot sure why you keep accusing Harbal of this. As far as I'm aware Sculptor and Peter Krpototpk are the only two full-blown wokies on this site and they both hate women.
You don't have to have fake tits or be castrated. You just have to call yourself a woman. Easy peasy. You don't even have to wear a dress. You could be a woman too, any time you want.
Well...now that I have your permission...
You have corrupt politicians to thank for that--not me.
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:50 amApathy is the sign that nature is just doing what nature does.

If humans have a problem with what nature does, then humans should stop planting more children on the earth to be exposed to what nature does without reason, purpose, intent, or concern for us and our children.

We cannot change the human behavior of others, we can only change our own behavior, and live by those values and standards.

No good blaming and shaming others their prerogative to live as they behave according to their own values and standards.
Yeah let's just kill ourselves because we have problems... you're being overly-dramatic here, Dontaskme.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:03 pmI think he lumped me in there too. He does seem to be 'mentally challenged'...
I'm still waiting to be mentally challenged on this forum... but Hairball seems a little scared...
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:03 pmI think he lumped me in there too.
...that might have been because you made a ridiculous argument excluding "ordinary gays" from these larger perils.

...as-if sodomy is 'equal to' what Maia described.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:03 pm
Harbal wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:58 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:42 am

Not sure why you keep accusing Harbal of this. As far as I'm aware Sculptor and Peter Krpototpk are the only two full-blown wokies on this site and they both hate women.
You don't have to have fake tits or be castrated. You just have to call yourself a woman. Easy peasy. You don't even have to wear a dress. You could be a woman too, any time you want.
I don't condone or promote it. Wizard has only come to the conclusion that I do because he is a simple minded idiot.
He does seem to be 'mentally challenged'...
I don't know what he's doing on a philosophy site. It's like a man with no arms taking up juggling. :|
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:04 pm
Age wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:48 amAND, what IS the, ACTUAL, 'problem' here?

To me, the word 'problem' has a VERY SPECIFIC MEANING. What does the word 'problem' even MEAN, to you?
You need to not be autistic to understand.
'you need to NOT be autistic to understand 'what', EXACTLY?
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:04 pm We live in a society, a Western Civilization.
That may well be WHERE 'you' live. But 'I' CERTAINLY DO NOT.
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:04 pm Your actions affect others, for better or worse.

And it looks like for the worse might be winning at the moment...
Here is ANOTHER example of how it appears that this one is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY INCAPABLE of just ANSWERING CLARIFYING QUESTIONS POSED, and ASKED TO 'it'.

Do you REALLY BELIEVE that 'you' are SUPERIOR to "others", and SO SPEAK and WRITE the WAY you DO? Or, has just become such A HABIT that you can NOT even STOP "your" 'self' FROM CONTINUALLY DOING 'it'?

LOOK, what IS BECOMING CLEARLY OBVIOUS IS THE Fact that you do NOT even KNOW what some of the words ACTUALLY MEAN, to you, which you SAY, WRITE, and USE here.

I suggest you START LEARNING, and then you WILL FIND OUT what you CLAIM WAS 'a problem' NONE ACTUALLY EXISTED.
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:35 am Why is privacy necessary, except to hide away what is 'Negative' and/or harmful to others?
Then all you are saying here is that humans are a danger to themselves and others, and that is why privacy is necessary for the sake of self-preservation and the fear of exposing their real raw unfiltered animalistic selves to each other, privacy protects this sense of self from the fear of shame and blame, and this fake fame, of thinking they have a unique sense of self-importance that is more important and has to be defended at all times. In other words, they hide away their true selves, in fear of what other people think of them, poor sods.
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:35 am So privacy is a defense-mechanism.
This defense mechanism is what creates the difference where there is none.

There is no individual self, except in this artificial human conceived mental conception, where there is an apparent attachment with my conceptual image, the one I have self created, which I now have to defend, and protect at all cost, an image that's deemed offended to have that image taken away, it's as if it's seen as taking away my privilege to be human.

If I really knew there was NO other ONE watching me, I wouldn't be so self conscious. Therefore, all our differences are self-inflicted.

In reality, there is no one watching you, but your own raw pure animalistic self.

Apes are not offended, threatened or in need to defend their 'sense of identity, maybe that's because nature didn't give them one. Humans invented their own sense of self. And they have to live with that self constantly in fear of having to defend and protect it until their death. And that's what makes humans the most pompous self-absorbed craziest idiots on this living planet.

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Harbal wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:13 pmI don't know what he's doing on a philosophy site. It's like a man with no arms taking up juggling. :|
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:15 am
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:02 am
What would you say is the largest, most important difference?
What if the difference was just an ''apparent arising'' of there being here a ''separate sense of self'' ?
A self that willingly chooses to stick all kinds of conceptual labels to itself?

A 'sense of self' is an apparent self-conscious entity, some energetic phenomena that is capable of being conscious of itself as being different, in the sense it has become aware as and through it's own awareness of itself, that there are ''other'' self-conscious individuals existing as well, ones that do not resemble in any way shape or form it's own self... and that these other selves come with their own different labels they have chosen to attach to themselves as well?

What if, this self-conscious entity, realises to it's horror, that it no longer has any privacy, now being aware that others exist as well, so it lives the rest of it's life in shame, in fear of being blamed and shamed for being different, when all this sense of self really wants to be, is it's pure natural self, like every other sentient animal on the planet.
Saying, 'now being aware that "others" exist as well", like EVERY "other" sentient animal ...', implies that one was NOT even YET AWARE of the so-called "other animals".
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:15 am ''Privacy'' seems to be the most important issue to the ''sense of self'' ...if one's privacy is violated by another, then that sense of self may experience, what's called a shame of maybe being different ? But who can it blame, but the other?
There is NO 'shame' EVER, that is; UNTIL "an other" SAYS, in JUDGMENT, 'things' like, 'you are ... stupid, ugly, short, or poor', and MEANS 'it' WITH DISTASTE or TO HURT.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:15 am That to me, seems to be what's going on with humanity, they are endowed with the sense of individuality, which tends to want privacy.
'you', adult human beings, only want so-called 'privacy' BECAUSE 'you' have become AFRAID and SCARED to be Truly OPEN and Honest WITH "on another". And, this is just BECAUSE of JUDGMENT, HATRED, PUNISHMENT, RIDICULE, and/or HUMILIATION.

If 'you', adult human beings, did NOT have NOR do 'these things' upon "others", especially children, then there would NOT be following generations growing up to SCARED and AFRAID to be Truly OPEN and Honest. There, literally, would be NO need AT ALL for what is called 'privacy'.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:15 am It's something nature has programmed humans to do, to be different, and then be shamed and blamed for it.
There IS A REASON WHY 'you', human beings, HAVE evolved 'this way'. Are 'you' YET AWARE of this VERY REASON WHY?
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:15 amIt's a big mess, and to be honest, nature is very good at making a huge mess of life, it's what it does quite naturally.
But what you call a 'huge mess' here, 'we' just call 'perfection', or just 'creation evolving naturally'.
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:35 am
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:15 amWhat if the difference was just an ''apparent arising'' of there being here a ''separate sense of self'' ?
A self that willingly chooses to stick all kinds of conceptual labels to itself?

A 'sense of self' is an apparent self-conscious entity, some energetic phenomena that is capable of being conscious of itself as being different, in the sense it has become aware as and through it's own awareness of itself, that there are ''other'' self-conscious individuals existing as well, ones that do not resemble in any way shape or form it's own self... and that these other selves come with their own different labels they have chosen to attach to themselves as well?
Just because a person would like to be identified as something, does not make it so. You can want to be smart, and beautiful, and tall, and rich. But the wanting doesn't make it so, at least immediately.
AND, JUST AS True IS, "the other" is NOT necessarily so what you 'want them to be'. you can 'want them to be' stupid, and ugly, and short, and poor. But you wanting does NOT make it so, at least immediately. That is; if you kept calling 'a child' stupid, and ugly, and short, and poor, THEN 'that child' WILL START BELIEVING 'they' ARE. Which, OBVIOUSLY, WOULD BE, EXACTLY, what 'you' 'WANTED 'them' TO BE'.
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:35 am You have to 'Be' the thing. You have to 'Be' smart, and beautiful, and tall, and rich, first...in order to identify as such.
LOL What IS 'relative' is NOT necessarily True AT ALL.

These people, back then, REALLY DID have A LOT TO LEARN, and UNDERSTAND.
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:35 am Then there are the people who lie.
Which, OBVIOUSLY, 'you' ARE one OF "wizard22".
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:35 am They are not the thing, but claim to 'Be' it.
There IS a VERY SPECIFIC REASON WHY I put ALL 'labelled people' in double quotation marks.
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:35 am So there are at least a few different factors between the 'Being' and the 'Thing'.
Which 'you' appear to STILL 'BE', and STILL 'Being', a LONG WAY FROM FULLY UNDERSTANDING and KNOWING.
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:35 am
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:15 am What if, this self-conscious entity, realises to it's horror, that it no longer has any privacy, now being aware that others exist as well, so it lives the rest of it's life in shame, in fear of being blamed and shamed for being different, when all this sense of self really wants to be, is it's pure natural self, like every other sentient animal on the planet.

''Privacy'' seems to be the most important issue to the ''sense of self'' ...if one's privacy is violated by another, then that sense of self may experience, what's called a shame of maybe being different ? But who can it blame, but the other?

That to me, seems to be what's going on with humanity, they are endowed with the sense of individuality, which tends to want privacy.
It's something nature has programmed humans to do, to be different, and then be shamed and blamed for it. It's a big mess, and to be honest, nature is very good at making a huge mess of life, it's what it does quite naturally.
Why is privacy necessary, except to hide away what is 'Negative' and/or harmful to others?
'It' does NOT HAVE TO BE 'negative' NOR 'harmful' to "others" AT ALL, but is just CONCEIVED 'to be'.

As you have SHOWN and PROVED above here.
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:35 am It doesn't even need to be malicious. It can also be mundane. For example, if some stranger approaches you on the street, and starts talking loudly at you about something you're not interested in...then this is a violation of your privacy, perception, and experience. You must 'wall' yourself apart from such a person. You must separate. You must blockade. You must ignore. If you cannot, then you have no privacy. So privacy is a defense-mechanism.
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