The Illusion of Two - AKA God and You

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What God Has Put Together Let No Man Put Asunder
Matthew 19:6: So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.

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And what God has separated, let no one put together.

Unless, and here's the lovely unless and it might require the right other person or right mix of things....
Unless you can be both mixed and separate, one and two.
As far as I can tell this is a vast improvement over separate things OR one unity with no individuals.

And so, maybe that's why things developed this way.

There was certainly no reason to develop an illusion.

Because then you have a dualism: illusion vs. reality.

So, maybe that's why, on some level, so many yearn to merge someone, even sexually. To be one while also two. Perhaps God yearned for that. Or we did. Or even non-dualism felt even better when ALSO dualism.

Now it's considered naughty to be two seemingly contradictory 'things' or 'truths' as once.

But that's just people thinking their words are perfect.

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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:32 pm Image
I assume this comic was made as a joke at the expense of more recent generations, but at the same time there could be something genuinely closer to the truth in it than more abstract meditative instructions. I like it for that reason. Like all good humour, it's only funny if it has some truth in it.
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"I'm God!" Tom was havin' one of his episodes as far as Dick and Harry were concerned. "Should we do something, Dick?" asked Harry. "I dunno! This isn't level 3, in fact I'd say it's level 1.5. Agree?" Dick replied. "He's quite unpredictable you know. Remember Xmas when he went from 0 to 3 in 5 seconds flat?" Harry was worried. "Don't worry. We talked about this last week - The Question!!!" Dick comforted. "Aah! The Question!!" Harry felt relieved. Dick and Harry went back to what they were doing - one ironing his crumpled shirt, the other playing Solitaire. "I'm God! I tell you, I'm God!" Tom was on the verge of a level 3.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:40 pm
But that's just people thinking their words are perfect.

Hold that ''thought''

Think about it, then throw it away.

Nothing is perfect, nothing is expressing itself.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:40 pm
So, maybe that's why, on some level, so many yearn to merge someone, even sexually. To be one while also two. Perhaps God yearned for that. Or we did. Or even non-dualism felt even better when ALSO dualism.

In the dream of separation only, there is apparent separation. And there is here, only the dream. There's no such thing as non-duality, because it's not a thing. It's the dream of separation.

"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return"

“ When I was a boy of 14 my father was so ignorant I could barely stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was amazed how much he had learned in 7 years”. Mark Twain
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Flannel Jesus wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:16 pm I assume this comic was made as a joke at the expense of more recent generations, but at the same time there could be something genuinely closer to the truth in it than more abstract meditative instructions. I like it for that reason. Like all good humour, it's only funny if it has some truth in it.
And just what the hell is so funny? that's exactly what I keep asking when the giggles bubble up. I still haven't really figured it out, but it does feel good to laugh.
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I think it's the sort of boomer humour where they make fun of young people for being into technology more than real life


...which is ironic because the worst Facebook addicts I've ever seen were boomers
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Flannel Jesus wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:00 pm I think it's the sort of boomer humour where they make fun of young people for being into technology more than real life


...which is ironic because the worst Facebook addicts I've ever seen were boomers
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My personal giggles are due to the recognition that all images are images of the imageless. Everyone in the world is made up of nothingness. While that may sound grim, it's the truth, and that makes me laugh out loud.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:32 pm What God Has Put Together Let No Man Put Asunder
Matthew 19:6: So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.
God puts together way too many wife beating ass holes to force women and their children to tolerate such God created misfit men.

Your God hates women. He is an ass hole.

Ignore my passion if you were just joking and not pushing such an immoral concept.

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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:24 am In the dream of separation only, there is apparent separation. And there is here, only the dream. There's no such thing as non-duality, because it's not a thing. It's the dream of separation.

"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return"
Well, there it is: two. Not, 'the greatest thing is just to love.' But rather 'AND to be loved in return.'
“ When I was a boy of 14 my father was so ignorant I could barely stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was amazed how much he had learned in 7 years”. Mark Twain
Wow, thanks for that quote. Hilarious irony.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:32 am
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:24 am In the dream of separation only, there is apparent separation. And there is here, only the dream. There's no such thing as non-duality, because it's not a thing. It's the dream of separation.

"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return"
Well, there it is: two. Not, 'the greatest thing is just to love.' But rather 'AND to be loved in return.'
“ When I was a boy of 14 my father was so ignorant I could barely stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was amazed how much he had learned in 7 years”. Mark Twain
Wow, thanks for that quote. Hilarious irony.
I thought you'd have realised by now that Dam prefers to talk in nondual context.

For Dam, there is no duality, there is only oneness in which self to self is the greatest unconditional love story ever told.

Never mind, you'll no doubt continue to forget.

Self to self, from source to source an endless spring.

For Dam, there is here only the beloved, there is only this unconditional freedom called love.

But, yeah, this too is a story, my story.

Every word spoken or written is a story, because the story, or dream is ALL THERE IS
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Greatest I am wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:17 am
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:32 pm What God Has Put Together Let No Man Put Asunder
Matthew 19:6: So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.
God puts together way too many wife beating ass holes to force women and their children to tolerate such God created misfit men.

Your God hates women. He is an ass hole.

Ignore my passion if you were just joking and not pushing such an immoral concept.

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When the duality of Man/Woman is seen through to be the same one unconditional love. Man will love woman as himself, and woman will love man as herself. And mothers and fathers will love their children as themself. However, separation is a very powerful illusion. Where there is two, there will always be conflict and tension. Man and Woman have been trying for eons to describe in words what nature put together as a nondual reality, the apparent duality is seen as a dream. The 'mind' is a metaphor for every character in the dream, the mind being dual by it's very nature, albeit illusory. The mind that divides what is nondual, cannot be used to make what is indivisible by it's very nature.

So what to do about that, is to use words to point back to the truth...like this.....Enough light can be added to a shadow to make it temporally disappear, but unless the opacity of the obstructing influence is eliminated, the shadow will return.Only in shadowlands, do shadows have shadows, because the truth is absolute, it is indivisible, and no shadow can know truth, because shadows have no existence apart from their caster who casts no shadow, except as a dream.

I suppose what I am trying to say, albeit very badly and awkardly no doubt, is that when a man or a woman are making love to each other, they are actually making love to themselves.


When a man makes love to a woman, he is actually making love to himself. Same when a woman makes love to a man, she is making love to herself.

However, most men and woman do not know this. Some do.

When the ones that do know this get together, those couples know the real meaning of bliss and unconditional love for the very first time.



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Love is within us always, just as hunger is within us, hunger is internal and can only be satisfied internally. It's no good sticking food to the outside of the body, the food had to be put inside the body to satisfy the hunger, or the hunger will remain.


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