What is the best way to follow the God

Is there a God? If so, what is She like?

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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:44 pm
K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:28 pm
You are pointing as everything out going inward to one. And I am pointing to one going outward to everything.
There is neither Out nor In.
Out / In, where is that? ...notice you cannot point to either?
K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:28 pmBut I have a cause with opposite mutual needs. Which makes it so much fun. And the diversity in the universe which makes it so much more beautiful is caused by that.
Yes, and good for you, the dream of separation is where all the fun and horror is. It's where all the action is. It's both beautiful and ugly.
I agree.

It's still all the Beloved.
But opposite mutual needs are not just dreams. Ofcourse there are dilutions and hallucinations. But even they are not completely dreams. There is reality in them too. One thinks that there is some control to dreams, but some realities we have no control in.
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K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:11 pm
But opposite mutual needs are not just dreams. Ofcourse there are dilutions and hallucinations. But even they are not completely dreams. There is reality in them too. One thinks that there is some control to dreams, but some realities we have no control in.
Reality is likened to a dream. Where nothing ever happens in a dream, it only appears to happen. But to whom exactly?

You may believe you are an alive character right now. But, where were you before you were born, where will you be when you die? who or what is it right here and now that knows it is alive?

If you've ever been under anesthesia wouldn't you have assumed the I am awareness would have gone on while the body was unconscious?

Where did you go during anesthesia, where were you before you were born, where will you be after you die? ...see how there is no one here, except an awareness eternally switching itself off and on.

When we say we are the I AM that is only partially true. I AM because that is the state where I perceive things. And then there is also the state of Not being, which is different in potential. Seems like birth and death is the same reality , just differing in appearance that's all.
Switching from being to not being is interesting. I have come to realise I AM doing this all the time.


What if the perceived gap in time is not a loss of awareness but part of it?

For illustration purposes, let's say reading a book were a continued awareness from cover-to-cover and a bunch of pages were left blank to symbolize a loss of awareness, would that also be a loss of awareness for the reader of the book?
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:04 pm
K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:11 pm
But opposite mutual needs are not just dreams. Ofcourse there are dilutions and hallucinations. But even they are not completely dreams. There is reality in them too. One thinks that there is some control to dreams, but some realities we have no control in.
Reality is likened to a dream. Where nothing ever happens in a dream, it only appears to happen. But to whom exactly?

You may believe you are an alive character right now. But, where were you before you were born, where will you be when you die? who or what is it right here and now that knows it is alive?

If you've ever been under anesthesia wouldn't you have assumed the I am awareness would have gone on while the body was unconscious?

Where did you go during anesthesia, where were you before you were born, where will you be after you die? ...see how there is no one here, except an awareness eternally switching itself off and on.

When we say we are the I AM that is only partially true. I AM because that is the state where I perceive things. And then there is also the state of Not being, which is different in potential. Seems like birth and death is the same reality , just differing in appearance that's all.
Switching from being to not being is interesting. I have come to realise I AM doing this all the time.


What if the perceived gap in time is not a loss of awareness but part of it?

For illustration purposes, let's say reading a book were a continued awareness from cover-to-cover and a bunch of pages were left blank to symbolize a loss of awareness, would that also be a loss of awareness for the reader of the book?
Yeah. One can say it is all relative (as in relativity that was going on before Einstein and his formulas about speed of light in particular (not relative)). I agree with what you say.

But I call myself a fundamental particle inside my brain. I don't know what you call yourself exactly.
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K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:55 pm
But I call myself a fundamental particle inside my brain. I don't know what you call yourself exactly.



The Beloved.

Empty Fullness.

Nothing & Everything.
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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:44 am
K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:55 pm
But I call myself a fundamental particle inside my brain. I don't know what you call yourself exactly.



The Beloved.

Empty Fullness.

Nothing & Everything.
Fine. I understand.
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K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:55 pmI don't know what you call yourself exactly.
Awareness of this and that, now and then.
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More exactly ...

More exactly:

- Any particular one can only be aware of this, now.
- Any particular one can only be aware of that, then.

- This is because a picture of a pipe is not a pipe, and because awareness of now cannot be then.
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Walker wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:20 am a picture of a pipe is not a pipe
Yes it is a pipe..it is the ''looked upon'' inseparable from the looker.

The actual object you call a pipe that you can physically touch with your hand is a known object by everyone who has come into contact with it, because it's a real objective event to the sense of observation.

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However, the object that is known as a pipe is only an image of an observer that has no image, because if the observer did have an image, the looked upon pipe wouldn't be known as the object pipe..it would be known as the image of the observer which is imageless.

So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. :)
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:51 am
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Great photo. Check out the design of that pipe. Form couldn’t follow function any better. Likewise for living forms. What’s the body’s function? A: Movement of body, voice and mind unencumbered by corruption caused by trauma whether it be self-imposed or otherwise.
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Thank you for your ideas. Let me explain my idea of being a fundamental particle more too.

A fundamental particle is an indivisible part of matter. It is next to nothing; any thing smaller than that seizes to exist. Then as an indivisible part of universe, one can not have more than one thing to do, in other words as an indivisible part one can not have more than one degree of freedom. I am saying scientifically anything that has more than one degree of freedom is divisible in to smaller parts.

As the fundamental choice, or the only thing to be able to do as the only degree of freedom, I picked giving thanks to God based on my religious beliefs. And thanks to God, it's itself something to give thanks to God. I mean if I am only able to give thanks to God, It can act on itself; it is itself something to give thanks to God for. That way I have peace with myself. I can exist only as a fundamental particle that has only one thing to do, and what I do can act on itself. Which is something I am very thankful for.

And that's where this idea comes up:
If God exists, he is supposed to be Loving; which is itself a Lovely thing from God himself.
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Walker wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:50 pm Check out the design of that pipe. Form couldn’t follow function any better. Likewise for living forms. What’s the body’s function? A: Movement of body, voice and mind unencumbered by corruption caused by trauma whether it be self-imposed or otherwise.
Absolutely no idea what you are on about as usual.

As for the picture of a pipe not being a pipe. As a concept known, the picture of a pipe is definitely a pipe, and not a not pipe, because there's simply no such pipe as a not pipe.

So stick that in your pipe too.
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K1Barin wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:13 pm The God is supposed to be almighty and therefore not needy. The God is supposed to be the most Loving too. Having these in mind, the best way to follow God would be to Love yourself. Even before Loving each other, and doing this and that, remember the Loving God is supposed to be not needy. He can do anything including Loving anybody he wants. So Loving one's self is the best way to follow the almighty and the most Loving God.

In a parallel topic it could be presented that the best way to Love yourself is to believe in the most Loving and almighty God to back you up and support you in Loving yourself. Having faith in the almighty and the most Loving God can ease up a lot of stress and can lead to hope.
Considering that God is, ("your" and), thee True Self anyway, then there is more Truth in this then most would even realize or accept, in the days when this is being written.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:46 pm
Walker wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:50 pm Check out the design of that pipe. Form couldn’t follow function any better. Likewise for living forms. What’s the body’s function? A: Movement of body, voice and mind unencumbered by corruption caused by trauma whether it be self-imposed or otherwise.
Absolutely no idea what you are on about as usual.

As for the picture of a pipe not being a pipe. As a concept known, the picture of a pipe is definitely a pipe, and not a not pipe, because there's simply no such pipe as a not pipe.

So stick that in your pipe too.
Eventually you should move on past the pipe.

What's on about is an explanation of the causation that led to the ancient Grecian ideal of physical perfection. When the form of the body follows the function of the body, instead of melding into the couch like a tater tot, then the design of the form is unencumbered by corruption, even when the form adapts to trauma. Form follows function, but when functioning as designed then the form is considered to be perfect, by the standard of horseshoes and grenades.

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Walker wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:33 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:46 pm
Walker wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:50 pm Check out the design of that pipe. Form couldn’t follow function any better. Likewise for living forms. What’s the body’s function? A: Movement of body, voice and mind unencumbered by corruption caused by trauma whether it be self-imposed or otherwise.
Absolutely no idea what you are on about as usual.

As for the picture of a pipe not being a pipe. As a concept known, the picture of a pipe is definitely a pipe, and not a not pipe, because there's simply no such pipe as a not pipe.

So stick that in your pipe too.
Eventually you should move on past the pipe.

What's on about is an explanation of the causation that led to the ancient Grecian ideal of physical perfection. When the form of the body follows the function of the body, instead of melding into the couch like a tater tot, then the design of the form is unencumbered by corruption, even when the form adapts to trauma. Form follows function, but when functioning as designed then the form is considered to be perfect, by the standard of horseshoes and grenades.

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But I'm not talking about trauma or corruption, so I have no idea why you have to include this in this. :?

I'm talking about a not-pipe that you alluded to back thread. I'm questioning the validity of a not-pipe. I personally cannot imagine any thing known as a pipe can be any thing other than the pipe known. There is no such pipe as a not-pipe.

Stop gandering off to what is irrelevant to the actual point. Stop telling me to move on from the actual point. Why don't you just move on, in fact, why don't you just learn to shut up if your only interest is in moving away from the actual point. :x
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Well, good afternoon to you, Ms. Dontaskme. (tipping hat)

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