What is the best way to follow the God

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K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:18 am
This issue seems to be related to whether the universe is discrete or continuous (digital or analog), which doesn't belong to this forum.
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K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:18 am
This issue seems to be related to whether the universe is discrete or continuous (digital or analog), which doesn't belong to this forum.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:26 am
K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:18 am
This issue seems to be related to whether the universe is discrete or continuous (digital or analog), which doesn't belong to this forum.
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We can discuss this issue here if you want. But first say whether you believe that the world is continuous or not.
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K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:40 am We can discuss this issue here if you want. But first say whether you believe that the world is continuous or not.
We do not need to discuss the hunger to belong, it's a false dicotomy. As no thing belongs to you. You are everything.

As for whether the world is continuous or not, it's obviously self-evident that it is, just the simple act of observation is proof enough.

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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:18 am
K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:40 am We can discuss this issue here if you want. But first say whether you believe that the world is continuous or not.
We do not need to discuss the hunger to belong, it's a false dicotomy. As no thing belongs to you. You are everything.

As for whether the world is continuous or not, it's obviously self-evident that it is, just the simple act of observation is proof enough.

No looker, nothing to look at.

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I don't know what you mean by hunger to belong. I meant to say discrete or continuous doesn't belong to forum about religion.

About continuous or not, I disagree with you. My reason for one thing is discrete and continuous are themselves two opposite things. And opposite things are discrete from each other and are not continuation of each other. I and you are independent, and we make independent choices, or we would not be I and you. There are many opposite sides of things in the universe that are discrete from each other, and they are not continuation of each other.

I believe every fundamental particle in the universe has an independent choice of its own. And the universe is discrete.
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K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:54 am
I don't know what you mean by hunger to belong. I meant to say discrete or continuous doesn't belong to forum about religion.

About continuous or not, I disagree with you. My reason for one thing is discrete and continuous are themselves two opposite things. And opposite things are discrete from each other and are not continuation of each other. I and you are independent, and we make independent choices, or we would not be I and you. There are many opposite sides of things in the universe that are discrete from each other, and they are not continuation of each other.

I believe every fundamental particle in the universe has an independent choice of its own. And the universe is discrete.
I have no idea what you are talking about in the above reply. You are quite welcome to make this as technical as you want, but that will be wasted on me.

I am only responding the OP topic in my own words, which I understand as my being my own unique understanding as to what God is.

For me here, there is only The Beloved, which is nothing and everything simultaneously.

Of course everything being discussed here belongs to the religious forum. I don't know what you mean by saying it doesn't.

Religion is an aspect of nondual philosophy.

Religion simply states that...( “I and my Father are One.” ) < that quote is a Nondual expression.

Meaning, there is no relationship/division here. All there is, is this immediate ONE without a second Nondual reality.

The I is just another word for self-evident 'empty presence', which is just another word for 'empty fullness'
The I of all that is...has NO biological Father.
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K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:54 am
I don't know what you mean by hunger to belong.
I've already explained it to you...here it is again >


We do not need to discuss the hunger to belong, it's a false dicotomy. As no thing belongs to you. You are everything.

Throwing out the idea that something doesn't belong here, implies one is being cast out of it's own kingdom, and that to me implies that the one cast out, would then be in hunger to belong to the kingdom again. Even though, nothing can be cast out of it's own kingdom, as you well know.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:23 pm
K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:54 am
I don't know what you mean by hunger to belong.
I've already explained it to you...here it is again >


We do not need to discuss the hunger to belong, it's a false dicotomy. As no thing belongs to you. You are everything.

Throwing out the idea that something doesn't belong here, implies one is being cast out of it's own kingdom, and that to me implies that the one cast out, would then be in hunger to belong to the kingdom again. Even though, nothing can be cast out of it's own kingdom, as you well know.
Well, sorry. I didn't mean to cast out anything. I thought maybe it would be opposed by others to discuss discrete and continuous which is a official discussion in philosophy in religion forum.

Anyway, we are discussing this issue here now. I presented my reason for a discrete universe. It is technical as you said. But we should get to an agreement on that before getting to Love and God as beings in one or dualities.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:15 pm
K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:54 am
I don't know what you mean by hunger to belong. I meant to say discrete or continuous doesn't belong to forum about religion.

About continuous or not, I disagree with you. My reason for one thing is discrete and continuous are themselves two opposite things. And opposite things are discrete from each other and are not continuation of each other. I and you are independent, and we make independent choices, or we would not be I and you. There are many opposite sides of things in the universe that are discrete from each other, and they are not continuation of each other.

I believe every fundamental particle in the universe has an independent choice of its own. And the universe is discrete.
I have no idea what you are talking about in the above reply. You are quite welcome to make this as technical as you want, but that will be wasted on me.

I am only responding the OP topic in my own words, which I understand as my being my own unique understanding as to what God is.

For me here, there is only The Beloved, which is nothing and everything simultaneously.

Of course everything being discussed here belongs to the religious forum. I don't know what you mean by saying it doesn't.

Religion is an aspect of nondual philosophy.

Religion simply states that...( “I and my Father are One.” ) < that quote is a Nondual expression.

Meaning, there is no relationship/division here. All there is, is this immediate ONE without a second Nondual reality.

The I is just another word for self-evident 'empty presence', which is just another word for 'empty fullness'
The I of all that is...has NO biological Father.
And one thing. As love that is usually called (sex), there are opposite needs. Dualities with mutual needs are that way. Same with animals and green plants, and matter and energy. Sometimes opposite mutual needs are necessary for Love.
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K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:55 pm
And one thing. As love that is usually called (sex), there are opposite needs. Dualities with mutual needs are that way. Same with animals and green plants, and matter and energy. Sometimes opposite mutual needs are necessary for Love.
And that is just more of the dream of The Beloved.

The Absolute Beloved has no need to be, it is already. It is this infinite being for eternity. It's already Self-fulfilled in it's own Self-fulfilling prophecy, absolutely pregnant with infinite possibility, many of the ONE

The dualities you speak of are within the artificial dream of separation, where there is the apparent sense of I here separate from you there, but which is in fact just the dream of The Beloved aware of it's own dreaming. In a dream there is a duality where there is the observer and the observed, apparently two, but always ONE as the dreamer is inseprable from the dream.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:19 pm
K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:55 pm
And one thing. As love that is usually called (sex), there are opposite needs. Dualities with mutual needs are that way. Same with animals and green plants, and matter and energy. Sometimes opposite mutual needs are necessary for Love.
And that is just more of the dream of The Beloved.

The Absolute Beloved has no need to be, it is already. It is this infinite being for eternity. It's already Self-fulfilled in it's own Self-fulfilling prophecy, absolutely pregnant with infinite possibility, many of the ONE

The dualities you speak of are within the artificial dream of separation, where there is the apparent sense of I here separate from you there, but which is in fact just the dream of The Beloved aware of it's own dreaming. In a dream there is a duality where there is the observer and the observed, apparently two, but always ONE as the dreamer is inseprable from the dream.
You are pointing as everything out going inward to one. And I am pointing to one going outward to everything. I can understand you.

But I have a cause with opposite mutual needs. Which makes it so much fun. And the diversity in the universe which makes it so much more beautiful is caused by that.
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K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:44 pm
Well, sorry. I didn't mean to cast out anything. I thought maybe it would be opposed by others to discuss discrete and continuous which is a official discussion in philosophy in religion forum.
Then you should have said it would be ''opposed'' and not said it (''does not belong'') cuz by saying it ''does not belong'' is insinuating it ought to be cast out of the discussion in favor of your own personal positional view of the OP instead.
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K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:28 pm
You are pointing as everything out going inward to one. And I am pointing to one going outward to everything.
There is neither Out nor In.
Out / In, where is that? ...notice you cannot point to either?
K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:28 pmBut I have a cause with opposite mutual needs. Which makes it so much fun. And the diversity in the universe which makes it so much more beautiful is caused by that.
Yes, and good for you, the dream of separation is where all the fun and horror is. It's where all the action is. It's both beautiful and ugly.
I agree.

It's still all the Beloved.
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K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:44 pm
Anyway, we are discussing this issue here now. I presented my reason for a discrete universe. It is technical as you said. But we should get to an agreement on that before getting to Love and God as beings in one or dualities.
Whatever we discuss, it will all be the same one love action dreaming difference where there is none.

It will be ...

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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:39 pm
K1Barin wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:44 pm
Well, sorry. I didn't mean to cast out anything. I thought maybe it would be opposed by others to discuss discrete and continuous which is a official discussion in philosophy in religion forum.
Then you should have said it would be ''opposed'' and not said it (''does not belong'') cuz by saying it ''does not belong'' is insinuating it ought to be cast out of the discussion in favor of your own personal positional view of the OP instead.
Sorry. My English is poor.
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