Reincarnation

Is there a God? If so, what is She like?

Moderators: AMod, iMod

Walker
Posts: 16383
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:00 am

Re: Reincarnation

Post by Walker »

Dontaskme wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:00 pm
Walker wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:38 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:43 pmMean and nasty things ...
No one said it was a female elephant.
Ooops, there you go again. Making sure to rub it in real good and proper.

It’s your kind of excitement baiting people for a mean and nasty reaction I guess. Not enough just to bait; but you get double the thrill to revel in the reaction, I guess the double kick for you is just too irresistible.
Well, I'll once again ask this serious question.

In principle, what is most important to a person? What is most precious? What will a person defend, sometimes even if it means the end? The answer is the same to each question.
User avatar
vegetariantaxidermy
Posts: 13975
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:45 am
Location: Narniabiznus

Re: Reincarnation

Post by vegetariantaxidermy »

Apparently the answer would be 'corrupt politicians and Big Businees interests' if the number of morons who join the military is anything to go by.
Walker
Posts: 16383
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:00 am

Re: Reincarnation

Post by Walker »

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:39 am Apparently the answer would be 'corrupt politicians and Big Businees interests' if the number of morons who join the military is anything to go by.
There's something else behind that, that applies to all, glasshopper.
User avatar
vegetariantaxidermy
Posts: 13975
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:45 am
Location: Narniabiznus

Re: Reincarnation

Post by vegetariantaxidermy »

Walker wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:42 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:39 am Apparently the answer would be 'corrupt politicians and Big Businees interests' if the number of morons who join the military is anything to go by.
There's something else behind that, that applies to all, glasshopper.
No one cares what religious fuckturds 'think' about anything. Your cowardly gibberish isn't cute, it's nauseating.
Walker
Posts: 16383
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:00 am

Re: Reincarnation

Post by Walker »

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:48 am
Walker wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:42 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:39 am Apparently the answer would be 'corrupt politicians and Big Businees interests' if the number of morons who join the military is anything to go by.
There's something else behind that, that applies to all, glasshopper.
No one cares what religious fuckturds 'think' about anything. Your cowardly gibberish isn't cute, it's nauseating.
You cared enough to give one lame answer, and one vicious answer.

Thus, you unwittingly revealed the answer by action, although conceptualizing it is obviously thine bridge too far to cross.

I have crossed that bridge and conceptualized the big behind, glasshopper. But to hear it you now must ask nicely. Pretty please, with sugar on top.

Keep in mind that your answer speaks for all.
User avatar
attofishpi
Posts: 13319
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:10 am
Location: Orion Spur
Contact:

Re: Reincarnation

Post by attofishpi »

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:48 am No one cares what religious fuckturds 'think' about anything.
Oi! Y all the attitude woman!? ...at least God gave you legs so that you could walk (from the bedroom to the kitchen and laundry).
User avatar
Dontaskme
Posts: 16929
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:07 pm
Location: Nowhere

Re: Reincarnation

Post by Dontaskme »

Iwannaplato wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:10 pmWhy would he be [would you be] [would anyone be] upset about the inevitable part of being alive?

I've already answered this question.


So again, what's the point in crying out (getting upset) to God ''why has thou forsaken me''? if Jesus already knew he was going to die eventually.

As anyone privy to knowledge knows full well, death is an inevitable part of being alive for every sentient thing that lives. Whether that death be at 1 day old or 99 years old...death is inevitable....crying out the words 'why has thou forsaken me'...to mean leave without intending to return, abandon suggesting that the thing or person left may be helpless without protection.

Spoiler alert: No living thing has protection from death, even the king himself has no protection from death. ( so who did Jesus think he was talking to to when he cried out according to Christianity to his Father whom Jesus called God ? )

Another spoiler alert: No living human man ever came back from the dead. If it's true that Jesus came back from the dead to live again. Then all that says is that death is an illusion and that only the living exists forever.

And the death part of living is just like a little sleep inbetween what exists forever. And if a return from the dead is true, then Jesus had no reason to fear being left without protection because he would have already known that life is eternal and that would imply the ultimate protection because there would be nothing that could ever defile or snuff out eternal life anyway.


.
User avatar
Dontaskme
Posts: 16929
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:07 pm
Location: Nowhere

Re: Reincarnation

Post by Dontaskme »

Walker wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:25 am
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:00 pm
Walker wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:38 pm
No one said it was a female elephant.
Ooops, there you go again. Making sure to rub it in real good and proper.

It’s your kind of excitement baiting people for a mean and nasty reaction I guess. Not enough just to bait; but you get double the thrill to revel in the reaction, I guess the double kick for you is just too irresistible.
Well, I'll once again ask this serious question.

In principle, what is most important to a person? What is most precious? What will a person defend, sometimes even if it means the end? The answer is the same to each question.
I've no idea what you are talking about. Or what you are supposed to be referring to, in fact your responses leave me constantly in a state of confusion where I'm forced to feel baffled as to the actual relevance of any of your responses to my posts, or the ideas posed in this thread topic.
User avatar
attofishpi
Posts: 13319
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:10 am
Location: Orion Spur
Contact:

Re: Reincarnation

Post by attofishpi »

Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:57 am
Iwannaplato wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:10 pmWhy would he be [would you be] [would anyone be] upset about the inevitable part of being alive?
So again, what's the point in crying out (getting upset) to God ''why has thou forsaken me''? if Jesus already knew he was going to die eventually.

As anyone privy to knowledge knows full well, death is an inevitable part of being alive for every sentient thing that lives.
OMG. It wasn't the death that was the issue...Christ knew full well of life\death\life...no big deal. IT is likely to have been the LEVEL OF PAIN\SUFFERING that God permitted Christ to endure.

The entire event did not even need a human to suffer such is the power of God - and it is stated in the Bible that eventually people would question OF THE FLESH? since Christ could have been perceived by witnessing without actually needing to suffer...once people in time as in now can comprehend such matters (tech).

Chess Jurist and the Passage of Time
Image
User avatar
Dontaskme
Posts: 16929
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:07 pm
Location: Nowhere

Re: Reincarnation

Post by Dontaskme »

Lacewing wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:12 am But if you weren't alive, you couldn't thrash back and forth between hate and love dramatically, which is clearly how you roll rather than playing a completely different game with your energy.
It has been my own experience that thrashing back and forth between hate and love is the same one energy. That's my theory anyway, I'm not asking anyone to agree with that.

For me personally, there is no other game to play. I have been forced to play this game, since I'm alive and there is nothing I could have done to prevent myself from being alive. I didn't make myself alive, so I have no other option than to play the game of being alive. I can hate the experience with just as much passion as I can love the experience. If I could ever have the luxury of personally choosing to be alive, I probably wouldn't.
Lacewing wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:12 am Do you have any other capability you haven't explored yet?
I suppose I've explored everything to be honest.

I've particularly enjoyed exploring living as a recluse, in solitude, alone, which does apparently seem to suit my character very much, it simulates the death state for me, that's when I am at my most happiest and feel most comfort and contentment.
Falling in love with the opposite sex because I am not gay, is another capability I have explored which is a very blissful experience for me especially when my love for the man is requited back to me with mutual passion and commitment. The love experience is probably one of the most pleasurable experiences I have explored while being alive, but then it can also be one of the most painful experiences when the love is unrequited.

Even though I am fully aware that the play of opposites ( love and hate ) is all so very fleeting and temporal, and that all that I will hate and love will eventually disappear from the stage of life as though nothing ever happened.

Life for me personally, is a cocktail of having and having not, wanting and not wanting what I've wanted, desire and disinterest, enthusiasm and apathetic, being attentive and distraction. It's a bumpy rollercoaster ride to nowhere, and the thrill is thinking and believing it is leading somehwere other than a dead end.
Last edited by Dontaskme on Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Dontaskme
Posts: 16929
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:07 pm
Location: Nowhere

Re: Reincarnation

Post by Dontaskme »

attofishpi wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:11 am
OMG. It wasn't the death that was the issue...Christ knew full well of life\death\life...no big deal. IT is likely to have been the LEVEL OF PAIN\SUFFERING that God permitted Christ to endure.
My issue with life is Y (why) would any moral decent intelligence create a universe comprised of living sentient organisms that were capable of feeling excrutiating pain, suffering, agony, despair and torture, just for the sake of being able to feel the fleeting moments that is known as pleasure. For example: imagine the sensation of being burnt alive until dead. Or jumping out of the twin tower windows knowing on the way down you were never going to see your loved ones ever again, not to mention the anticipation of knowing you are about to become a pile of pulp as you hit the ground.

Is it just me atto, or are we obliged to think this is all perfectly ok and acceptable, and that we need to be grateful for our lives because somewhere out-there, there is some mighty loving supreme intelligence much greater than we will ever be, that has created these earthly experiences to be possible.

For me personally, I do not think so, no supreme intelligence would have bothered with such barbaric stupidity.
User avatar
attofishpi
Posts: 13319
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:10 am
Location: Orion Spur
Contact:

Re: Reincarnation

Post by attofishpi »

Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:01 am
attofishpi wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:11 am
OMG. It wasn't the death that was the issue...Christ knew full well of life\death\life...no big deal. IT is likely to have been the LEVEL OF PAIN\SUFFERING that God permitted Christ to endure.
My issue with life is Y (why) would any moral decent intelligence create a universe comprised of living sentient organisms that were capable of feeling excrutiating pain, suffering, agony, despair and torture, just for the sake of being able to feel the fleeting moments that is known as pleasure. For example: imagine the sensation of being burnt alive until dead. Or jumping out of the twin tower windows knowing on the way down you were never going to see your loved ones ever again, not to mention the anticipation of knowing you are about to become a pile of pulp as you hit the ground.

Is it just me atto, or are we obliged to think this is all perfectly ok and acceptable, and that we need to be grateful for our lives because somewhere out-there, there is some mighty loving supreme intelligence much greater than we will ever be, that has created these earthly experiences to be possible.

For me personally, I do not think so, no supreme intelligence would have bothered with such barbaric stupidity.
It all comes back to what I have been saying. This God entity can eliminate suffering from the POV of what you PERCEIVE is happening to someone. My best advice is consider your brain is in a simulation and don't just accept that what you perceive is actually happening to a sentient being. The God is above that.
User avatar
Dontaskme
Posts: 16929
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:07 pm
Location: Nowhere

Re: Reincarnation

Post by Dontaskme »

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:52 am
I love your honesty. Some people get really offended when others don't lust for life the way they do. Well they can really just go fuck themselves. It's none of their business. There should be lovely, pristine clinics you can go to when you've had enough of this bullshit. Clinics that are full of the best psychedlic drugs where you can go off blissfully into a beautiful fractal universe :D
Thanks Veg.

👍 (((smile))) :)

Have you ever noticed, no one alive ever walks around with a permanent smile on their face. Maybe it's because there is nothing to smile about. And that we always seem to fake our smile. We instinctively know that there's nothing to smile about, and that there's just a natural impartial neutrality about being alive. To Grimace or to Smile, is just a conditioned human reaction to what is essentially an indifferent cold uncaring unforgiving universe.

Why do we smile for the camera, is it because that's when we get to look at ourself square in the face. I guess we wouldn't want to know what's really lurking beneath that smile, so I guess we smile even though our heart is aching, because that's the reality of it, that's about your lot, so you better wear that smile, you better look on the bright side of life. :o


.
User avatar
Dontaskme
Posts: 16929
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:07 pm
Location: Nowhere

Re: Reincarnation

Post by Dontaskme »

attofishpi wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:17 am
It all comes back to what I have been saying. This God entity can eliminate suffering from the POV of what you PERCEIVE is happening to someone. My best advice is consider your brain is in a simulation and don't just accept that what you perceive is actually happening to a sentient being. The God is above that.
Alright atto, if that's what you believe is true or real, I have no desire to contest what is your belief.

Personally though, I happen to know by direct experience that suffering and pain is a real sensation that reincarnates over and over again while there is here a free will and choice to procreate more conscious feeling sentient organisms into existence to experience it as well.
Walker
Posts: 16383
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:00 am

Re: Reincarnation

Post by Walker »

Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:00 am I've no idea what you are talking about.
What is most important to a person?

*

(Hope you're feeling better.)
Post Reply