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Harbal wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:27 pm
roydop wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:19 pm I'm presenting Truth for no other reason. It's the Truth and it needs to be shared.
How do we know it's the truth? Do you have a certificate of authenticity or something?

I'm not saying it isn't the truth, btw, I only watched a couple of minutes.
I know it's the truth because the testing of the theory has taken place in/as my direct experience, over the span of 22 years, and it has been confirmed as true. My life is free of suffering and full of happiness and perfect contentment. I understand why everything (a "thing" is defined as an inanimate physical object, so it makes zero sense to us "everything" in this context) is unfolding as it is and I know why everyone does everything they do.

I know:

A: Why we are here
B. What we are supposed to do, and,
c. How to do that.
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Sculptor wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:05 am
roydop wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:30 pm Human consciousness is under the spell of a cult leader. All of it. You, me (not so much) EVERYONE, especially the English speaking folk, are in a collective state of delusion/programming, due to the meaning of the language that constitutes the fundamental model of reality presented/described by "anything", "something", "Everything" and "Nothing". The "thing"/"nothing" model is incomplete and incorrect.

The following two videos follows the rabbit hole of the definitions of "thing" and "nothing" (represented mathematically as "1" and "0") to reveal the method in which the spell is cast. The theory then provides a correct Fundamental Model of Reality that FIXES EVERYTHING.

People, sincerely,

Watch the two parts of this video with as much focus and objectivity as you possibly can. Watch them until you understand what every single sentence is saying. This is it. This is the end of materialism and the dawn of a new model and mode of investigation.

I feel as though the level of cynicism, along with the inability to discern different levels of communication/degrees of truth, will have this passed over by pretty much everyone who has read thus far.

But I can't help it. Truth must be presented and delusion dispelled. Study only this now. Dig into this. This is it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvLKIv0uaQ4
Your presentation skills are woeful.
Maybe you should try to find someone more experienced to present this?

Here's my feeling about it.
When a half baked crazy idea has been festering inside a person's head and they finally come to speak it out load they find it difficult because the verbal cortex knows that it is bollocks.
When it is just internalised the ideas can thrive within their own idiosyncratic internalised "logic", but when the ideas are verbalised they sound like idiocy.
Your stumbling approach and faltering with words says a lot more about the failure of the concepts than text very could.
Maybe you have been isolated too long through the pandemic. But it is not too late to go into the world and re-socialise you brain.
Good luck
The "bollocks" you are referring to IS THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE MEANING OF THE WORDS "THING" AND "NOTHING". This part of the video is me showing how convoluted, self-referential and paradoxical the current model of "thing"/"nothing, is.

If you can't understand the triune system then you are either a simpleton or intentionally blind. And that model isn't even made up my me; it is an observation of the Fundamental Process, which manifests naturally at the most primary, fundamental level. The only "thing" (wrong usage of "thing", that everyone uses without question) that I made up was the adaptation of "thing" "POTENTIAL" "thought" rather than "some thing" "any thing" "every thing" and "no thing", in order to have it fit within the Fundamental Model of Reality, which is triune in nature, not dualistic.

You can't/refuse to, "get it" BECAUSE YOU ARE BRAINWASHED AND IN A CULT, as is all of humanity.
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roydop wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:42 pm You know nothing about me and my past.
You know nothing about me, yet it didn't stop you from making assumptions about me.
When I hit 30 years of age I was taken by a need to figure all of this out. I had been raised a Christian but the whole narrative never made sense. I read dozens of books on quantum physics, different religions and some philosophy (existentialism). My mantra became: "I set my intention on knowing God." "I intend to know the true nature of reality." With absolute conviction and sincerity these phrases were repeated. I began meditating and now I know that it came naturally. I was able to find the thought free state easily and the feeling I got was that of being close to "God".

I called myself a "Buddhist for about a decade but it still didn't fit perfectly. I was still searching. I experimented with Salvia Divinorum and purchased a float (sensory deprivation) tank. Then I came across the teaching of Ramana Maharshi and all searching concluded. I had found the answer and now all of my energy went directly into the practice of shifting attention to the space between thoughts as often as I remembered to and remaining there as long as I was able.

Now, after thousands of hours of intensive mediation and hundreds of hours of floating, as well as the knowledge gained from my Salvia experiences, I do know God and the true nature of reality. My adequate IQ of being in the 92nd percentile and my dyslexia have also contributed to the result of being the only person in all of history to correctly interpret the message presented by the information (of the number system and the triune system).
If you really have subjected yourself to all that, which I am doubtful about, it is little wonder that you have conditioned yourself into an odd state of mind. Evolution didn't shape us to fit into the modern environment we find ourselves in today, so it is no mystery that most of us are a bit screwd up, but what you claim to have put yourself through is way over the top. You seem to think that that journey has led you to find reality, but I suspect it has caused you to completely lose touch with reality.
As I said in the videos, all of humanity is under the spell of a cult.
And like I said, you don't come across as a saviour of humanity.
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roydop wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:57 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:05 am
roydop wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:30 pm Human consciousness is under the spell of a cult leader. All of it. You, me (not so much) EVERYONE, especially the English speaking folk, are in a collective state of delusion/programming, due to the meaning of the language that constitutes the fundamental model of reality presented/described by "anything", "something", "Everything" and "Nothing". The "thing"/"nothing" model is incomplete and incorrect.

The following two videos follows the rabbit hole of the definitions of "thing" and "nothing" (represented mathematically as "1" and "0") to reveal the method in which the spell is cast. The theory then provides a correct Fundamental Model of Reality that FIXES EVERYTHING.

People, sincerely,

Watch the two parts of this video with as much focus and objectivity as you possibly can. Watch them until you understand what every single sentence is saying. This is it. This is the end of materialism and the dawn of a new model and mode of investigation.

I feel as though the level of cynicism, along with the inability to discern different levels of communication/degrees of truth, will have this passed over by pretty much everyone who has read thus far.

But I can't help it. Truth must be presented and delusion dispelled. Study only this now. Dig into this. This is it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvLKIv0uaQ4
Your presentation skills are woeful.
Maybe you should try to find someone more experienced to present this?

Here's my feeling about it.
When a half baked crazy idea has been festering inside a person's head and they finally come to speak it out load they find it difficult because the verbal cortex knows that it is bollocks.
When it is just internalised the ideas can thrive within their own idiosyncratic internalised "logic", but when the ideas are verbalised they sound like idiocy.
Your stumbling approach and faltering with words says a lot more about the failure of the concepts than text very could.
Maybe you have been isolated too long through the pandemic. But it is not too late to go into the world and re-socialise you brain.
Good luck
The "bollocks" you are referring to IS THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE MEANING OF THE WORDS "THING" AND "NOTHING". This part of the video is me showing how convoluted, self-referential and paradoxical the current model of "thing"/"nothing, is.

If you can't understand the triune system then you are either a simpleton or intentionally blind. And that model isn't even made up my me; it is an observation of the Fundamental Process, which manifests naturally at the most primary, fundamental level. The only "thing" (wrong usage of "thing", that everyone uses without question) that I made up was the adaptation of "thing" "POTENTIAL" "thought" rather than "some thing" "any thing" "every thing" and "no thing", in order to have it fit within the Fundamental Model of Reality, which is triune in nature, not dualistic.

You can't/refuse to, "get it" BECAUSE YOU ARE BRAINWASHED AND IN A CULT, as is all of humanity.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
And you want to be taken seriously?
Please do not give up your meds
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Sculptor wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:37 pm
roydop wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:57 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:05 am

Your presentation skills are woeful.
Maybe you should try to find someone more experienced to present this?

Here's my feeling about it.
When a half baked crazy idea has been festering inside a person's head and they finally come to speak it out load they find it difficult because the verbal cortex knows that it is bollocks.
When it is just internalised the ideas can thrive within their own idiosyncratic internalised "logic", but when the ideas are verbalised they sound like idiocy.
Your stumbling approach and faltering with words says a lot more about the failure of the concepts than text very could.
Maybe you have been isolated too long through the pandemic. But it is not too late to go into the world and re-socialise you brain.
Good luck
The "bollocks" you are referring to IS THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE MEANING OF THE WORDS "THING" AND "NOTHING". This part of the video is me showing how convoluted, self-referential and paradoxical the current model of "thing"/"nothing, is.

If you can't understand the triune system then you are either a simpleton or intentionally blind. And that model isn't even made up my me; it is an observation of the Fundamental Process, which manifests naturally at the most primary, fundamental level. The only "thing" (wrong usage of "thing", that everyone uses without question) that I made up was the adaptation of "thing" "POTENTIAL" "thought" rather than "some thing" "any thing" "every thing" and "no thing", in order to have it fit within the Fundamental Model of Reality, which is triune in nature, not dualistic.

You can't/refuse to, "get it" BECAUSE YOU ARE BRAINWASHED AND IN A CULT, as is all of humanity.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
And you want to be taken seriously?
Please do not give up your meds
Wow, great rebuttal!

I don't suffer. Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant. If you wish to cease your own suffering, I suggest you follow my teaching or the teaching of Ramana Maharshi. If you don't want to end your suffering, carry on.
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Harbal wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:27 pm
roydop wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:42 pm You know nothing about me and my past.
You know nothing about me, yet it didn't stop you from making assumptions about me.
When I hit 30 years of age I was taken by a need to figure all of this out. I had been raised a Christian but the whole narrative never made sense. I read dozens of books on quantum physics, different religions and some philosophy (existentialism). My mantra became: "I set my intention on knowing God." "I intend to know the true nature of reality." With absolute conviction and sincerity these phrases were repeated. I began meditating and now I know that it came naturally. I was able to find the thought free state easily and the feeling I got was that of being close to "God".

I called myself a "Buddhist for about a decade but it still didn't fit perfectly. I was still searching. I experimented with Salvia Divinorum and purchased a float (sensory deprivation) tank. Then I came across the teaching of Ramana Maharshi and all searching concluded. I had found the answer and now all of my energy went directly into the practice of shifting attention to the space between thoughts as often as I remembered to and remaining there as long as I was able.

Now, after thousands of hours of intensive mediation and hundreds of hours of floating, as well as the knowledge gained from my Salvia experiences, I do know God and the true nature of reality. My adequate IQ of being in the 92nd percentile and my dyslexia have also contributed to the result of being the only person in all of history to correctly interpret the message presented by the information (of the number system and the triune system).
If you really have subjected yourself to all that, which I am doubtful about,

This is the point where the other person calls me a liar because they can't fit what I'm relating into their experience/world view.


it is little wonder that you have conditioned yourself into an odd state of mind.

What "odd state of mind" are you referring to? Being able to control my own mind? Indeed this is "odd" compared to your state, in which you are unable to prevent the voice in your head from injecting an unending and random stream of thoughts. Be honest now!


Evolution didn't shape us to fit into the modern environment we find ourselves in today, so it is no mystery that most of us are a bit screwd up,

There is a singular cause, and cure, to the "screwed up." I just happen to know what that cause is.


but what you claim to have put yourself through is way over the top. You seem to think that that journey has led you to find reality, but I suspect it has caused you to completely lose touch with reality.

The fact that I no longer suffer IS THE PROOF that I have come to remember Reality/True Self. If you think there's a better measuring stick, I can't imagine what that would be.

As I said in the videos, all of humanity is under the spell of a cult.
And like I said, you don't come across as a saviour of humanity.
You mean you were expecting something else and lack the ability to change you viewpoint.
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roydop wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:20 am
I don't suffer. Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant. If you wish to cease your own suffering, I suggest you follow my teaching or the teaching of Ramana Maharshi. If you don't want to end your suffering, carry on.

I believe you Roy.

Just know that there will always be people who will absolutely understand your videos.

I understand what you mean about the cessation of suffering, because it has also been my direct experience too.

I do not suffer either.

Some people misinterpret me when I openly and honestly embrace my all my emotions and feelings whether they are negative or positive, they are part of what makes up the chemisry of my being ..and I reject none of it.

If I want to say that life is crap and that I hate it, I will...and same goes for if I want to say life is beautiful and amazing, I will...and none of those honest opinions will change the truth of my being...which is Nondual.

I agree, suffering ceases when we are living in the truth Roy. Happiness increases also, yes this is true.

Non-duality changed my life for the better, it was the only subject I was ever interested in, I've studied it all my life. I was practically born to be drawn to it's message, I started to get glimpes of the truth at around the age of 4/5 years old.

Right now, I do not suffer, I am at total peace with my being...just like you Roy...and so I thank you once again for coming along and sharing these videos here, it was very generous of you. :D


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roydop wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:57 pm
The "bollocks" you are referring to IS THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE MEANING OF THE WORDS "THING" AND "NOTHING". This part of the video is me showing how convoluted, self-referential and paradoxical the current model of "thing"/"nothing, is.

If you can't understand the triune system then you are either a simpleton or intentionally blind. And that model isn't even made up my me; it is an observation of the Fundamental Process, which manifests naturally at the most primary, fundamental level. The only "thing" (wrong usage of "thing", that everyone uses without question) that I made up was the adaptation of "thing" "POTENTIAL" "thought" rather than "some thing" "any thing" "every thing" and "no thing", in order to have it fit within the Fundamental Model of Reality, which is triune in nature, not dualistic.

You can't/refuse to, "get it" BECAUSE YOU ARE BRAINWASHED AND IN A CULT, as is all of humanity.
Roy..you did a brilliant job explaining this investigation INTO THE MEANING OF THE WORDS "THING" AND "NOTHING"

It's a very difficult job to do, but you did it amazingly well, even I was able to grasp it. But only because I've personally been studying the nature of the concept THING and NOTHING..all my life.

I knew very early on in my life that there was something not quite right about what the education system was teaching ...so I decided to educate myself...about life and the universe and the nature of existence and being.

Anyhow, I was completely '''Wowed''' by how you explained this very difficult message... You delivered the message very well. . so I just wanted to let you know that. I hope you continue to keep banging this home, because that's all I'm trying to do here. And I do not care what people think about me, my only mission in life is to get the truth out there to the masses.


The only reason I am doing this is because I AM SO SICK OF THIS FAKE AS FUCK human deluded belief system that has everyone hanging onto like their entire life depended on it.

And just for those who enjoy nitpicking away at peoples personalities....NO personality type is required to UNDERSTAND Roy's message.

It's not like only happy people will understand it...and that miserable fucks will fail to understand it.

The message does not care how you are as a personality...the message is the truth, and that's all there is to know and understand.
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roydop wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:57 pm My life is free of suffering and full of happiness and perfect contentment.
If someone does get it, will the suffering they have gone through end? I ask because in your responses here and also in the video it seems both explicit and implicit that the truth you are presenting leads to an end to suffering or at least nearly all of it. The transition may be upsetting, but once over the threshhold suffering will stop. Or?

Another way to put this: could one get the truth you are presenting AND find life horrific and suffer a lot?
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roydop wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:20 am
Sculptor wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:37 pm
roydop wrote: Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:57 pm

The "bollocks" you are referring to IS THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE MEANING OF THE WORDS "THING" AND "NOTHING". This part of the video is me showing how convoluted, self-referential and paradoxical the current model of "thing"/"nothing, is.

If you can't understand the triune system then you are either a simpleton or intentionally blind. And that model isn't even made up my me; it is an observation of the Fundamental Process, which manifests naturally at the most primary, fundamental level. The only "thing" (wrong usage of "thing", that everyone uses without question) that I made up was the adaptation of "thing" "POTENTIAL" "thought" rather than "some thing" "any thing" "every thing" and "no thing", in order to have it fit within the Fundamental Model of Reality, which is triune in nature, not dualistic.

You can't/refuse to, "get it" BECAUSE YOU ARE BRAINWASHED AND IN A CULT, as is all of humanity.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
And you want to be taken seriously?
Please do not give up your meds
Wow, great rebuttal!

I don't suffer. Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant. If you wish to cease your own suffering, I suggest you follow my teaching or the teaching of Ramana Maharshi. If you don't want to end your suffering, carry on.
No rebuttal needed since nothing is here to rebut. You have to have made a case. What you seem to have is a series of unsubstantiated and confused ramblings; self contradictory, vague and diffuse.
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roydop wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:32 am
You mean you were expecting something else and lack the ability to change you viewpoint.
Actually, it's you who lacks the ability to change my viewpoint.
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Harbal wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:03 am
roydop wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:32 am
You mean you were expecting something else and lack the ability to change you viewpoint.
Actually, it's you who lacks the ability to change my viewpoint.
That's not what was being said though....there is nowhere in that comment that Roy was saying he could change your viewpoint.
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:08 am
That's not what was being said though....there is nowhere in that comment that Roy was saying he could change your viewpoint.
He is asking us all -because we are all under the influence of a cult leader- to abandon our current view of "reality", and replace it with the one he is presenting to us. That is what this thread is about; Roy is quite explicit in his intention to convince us to reject what we already have, and accept what he is offering us in its place. He is telling me that, if I cling onto my current "delusion", and reject his "truth", it is because of a failure in me.
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:08 am
Harbal wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:03 am
roydop wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:32 am
You mean you were expecting something else and lack the ability to change you viewpoint.
Actually, it's you who lacks the ability to change my viewpoint.
That's not what was being said though....there is nowhere in that comment that Roy was saying he could change your viewpoint.
But that is the entire thrust of his post.
" If you wish to cease your own suffering, I suggest you follow my teaching or the teaching of Ramana Maharshi. If you don't want to end your suffering, carry on."
He is proselytising
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Harbal wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:11 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:08 am
That's not what was being said though....there is nowhere in that comment that Roy was saying he could change your viewpoint.
He is asking us all -because we are all under the influence of a cult leader- to abandon our current view of "reality", and replace it with the one he is presenting to us. That is what this thread is about; Roy is quite explicit in his intention to convince us to reject what we already have, and accept what he is offering us in its place. He is telling me that, if I cling onto my current "delusion", and reject his "truth", it is because of a failure in me.
Sorry this takes so long to explain Harbal...but I wish you patience and endurance while reading, and have no intention of boring you to death with my long winded reply... I'm just simply trying my best to explain the point of Roy's message.

We are all under the delusion of our culture as a collective hive mind. When you were born, you had no concept of the world into which you were born, you had no belief about it, nor did you even have an identity.

So what happened next?... as soon as you felt the urge in you to communicate with all the other people in your life...you then started to take on a knowledge that your parents were feeding you, including your school education. You became aware of knowledge, and this knowledge was passed onto you from other people and their beliefs about themselves and the world. You took those beliefs on as your own.

That's what Roy was pointing to when he mentioned CULT mentality.

I mean, you could have refused the identity/name given to you by your parents..you could have refused to have an education given to you by other people, you could have refused to have beliefs about anything that had been passed onto you by others. But you didn't did you, because you wanted to fit in with the collective hive mind, because you did not know any other way to be or act in the world you were born into. Remember, you were born into a system that was already set up by other people beliefs and ideas....that were never your own.


Roy's message is as old as time itself spoken by those who have delved deep into the notion of the SELF

It's pointing to the state of being prior to the indoctrination where knowledge was implanted into your brain, before that took place ...knowledge was absent in you.

Roy is the messenger of a message...which you the reader can accept or reject to be the truth. Your current mind-set is fixed due to your indoctrination.
But that which seems to be fixed, can be changed, because there is nothing fixed about anything we think about, everything can be changed...it can be wiped away completely back into the state that was prior to your indoctrination, the time where you were without knowledge of yourself.

Only you can change your mind about who you think you are. No one else can do that for you. Not Roy, or me.

You maybe happy being with the knowledge you have of yourself, or you may want to question the knowledge you have of yourself...but that's up to you,it's your job to know you.

Roy's message about suffering coming to an end is true. He is living testimony of that truth, and so am I

We can only offer that truth as a reality to someone else, but we can never make it true for them. They have to test it out for themselves, but only if they want to...if they are not interested in testing it, then that's fine, they do not have to.

If you have never suffered in your life anyway, then this message will be of no use to you, but if you have suffered and you would like that suffering to be no more, then the message will maybe of some use to you, but only if you put it to the test first.

The onus is always on you to change your mind about any knowledge pertaining to the nature of reality and the existence of yourself.

You are not a failure if you choose not to understand the message. But if you have ever suffered at any time in your life, there is a way to understand that the one who suffers can end it's suffering by a simple switch in perception, which is a change of mind...that's all, failure to be open to having your mind changed about anything you believe to be real, will keep you in your current mind-set, and that's ok...no one is forcing you to change your mind about anything, only you can do that.


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