a defense of being "WOKE"

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Why do Americans love turning verbs into nouns and nouns into verbs? Is it to sound 'cool'? If that's not butchering and abusing language then I don't know what is.

You mean, why do they go around verbing nouns?

And nouning verbs. To noun or not to noun. That is the question...

[Walker]

As a word of rebuke, one is called "woke",
So, let us see what the opposite of being "woke" is?
To be asleep, to be unaware of, not to be conscience...

Hey there, Kropotkin.

Funny. People sleep to dream, then say they’re living the dream.

This just popped up, gracias for the spark ...

When I woke up
And suddenly grew conscious of conscience
(For it does happen suddenly although nagging suspicions are the tinder)
I said to it, too late
The horse has left the barn
Now you can only feed regret.

[Walker]

Why do Americans love turning verbs into nouns and nouns into verbs? Is it to sound 'cool'? If that's not butchering and abusing language then I don't know what is.

You mean, why do they go around verbing nouns?

And nouning verbs. To noun or not to noun. That is the question...

Peter Noone was both a noun and a monkee who verbed his way to fame and fortune.

(I don't know. Seemed appropriate.)

[Immanuel Can]

And nouning verbs.

We should all go to "a meet" for that.

It's not too much of "an ask".

[Immanuel Can]

As a word of rebuke, one is called "woke",
So, let us see what the opposite of being "woke" is?
To be asleep, to be unaware of, not to be conscience...

Apparently, the opposite of "woke" is "literate."

[Peter Kropotkin]

I think the whole "woke" thing probably came about because there are a sufficient number of stupid people with polarised, unnuanced views around to have brought it about. It's just yet another case of two sets of extremist minorities buggering up the world for the rest of us.

Not wrong.

"Woke" is a grammatical error. It rhymes with "joke," and for pretty good reason. It should be "awakened," but the people who coined it to flatter themselves were too dumb to notice, apparently.

Wokies are marked by two things: unbelievable levels of smugness, and total inability to know their own history. Many of them don't even know they're just indoctrinated Neo-Marxists, and imagine they're something like "virtuous people" instead. They're overwhelmingly white, middle-class, spoiled and, it must be noted, either female or feminized. And they feel all kinds of things, but actually never think outside of the petty, silly Marxist frame into which they've been "woked."

They don't know basic facts about their own history. For example, when they complain about "slavery," they don't realize that 100% of the American slave owners were Democrats (i.e. Wokies' best buddies). They also don't know that all the governors who turned the hoses and dogs on the freedom marchers were Democrats. And they don't know that it was the Democrats who created the KKK. And they don't notice that all the cities that have been the stomping grounds of Woke-types and Democrats for decades now, unimpeded by any Republican intruders, are the worst hellholes for minorities that the USA actually has...Baltimore, Chicago, Atlanta, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland...Just like they don't know that Marxism is, by far, the most homicidal creed in human history, and ignore Cuba, North Korea, China, Russia, Congo, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Vietnam, Albania, and all the other places that the other Marxism's also turned into absolute economic, social and human rights disaster zones.

They don't actually care about minorities; they only care about positioning themselves as "champions of minorities." That's quite a different thing, as we find out. They actually think they're enlightened, special, virtuous, champions of the oppressed, and all that rubbish.

"Wokism" means talking about "critical theory," which is the opposite of "critical thinking." It means believing the world is made up of nothing but power blocks, keyed to things like race, gender, class and other nonsense. It means thinking that parents have no right to raise their own children, but they do have a right to murder them. It means you want to see kids in schools groomed into pedophilia or transism, so that they can be "disrupted" or "queer" revolutionaries (their terms).

For anybody who really wants to know Wokism, I recommend James Lindsay's new book, "Race Marxism." It's all in there.

K: there is so much ignorance here, its hard to break it out... for example claiming
that being "woke" is Marxist in nature.. and that is simple not true...
I am liberal and I reject Marxism... the false belief that if one is liberal,
they must be Marxists..

the idiotic claim that the ''democrats'' during the civil war are the
same as democrats today.. to hold that requires one to ignore the massive change
in political parties and within America itself that has occurred since 1865..
I am old, and I have seen massive changes in the two parties since 1970...
The democrats of the south, circa 1950-1980, were republicans in everything
but name...and that change began with Richard Nixon in 1968..

(An example of the massive change in America is the fact that California
was once a very reliable red state.. it voted Republican in every
election for decades, and was still a red state when I moved here
in 1973.. you cannot equate what was once true to the reality on the
ground today)

In rereading your post, it is full of unsubstantiated and silly ass
assumptions, but nothing resembling any facts or evidence..
it is just a long opinion piece, full of badly thought out
prejudice and bigotry... it has no value otherwise...

Kropotkin

[Harbal]

K: there is so much ignorance here, its hard to break it out... for example claiming
that being "woke" is Marxist in nature.. and that is simple not true...
I am liberal and I reject Marxism... the false belief that if one is liberal,
they must be Marxists..

IC knows perfectly well what Marxism is, but I'm sure that the average American has no idea what it is, other than it is a word that means something very scary. The thought of Marxism getting a foothold in the USA is beyond ridiculous, but luckily for the Right Wing, most Americans aren't smart enough to know that.

[Immanuel Can]

...being "woke" is Marxist in nature.. and that is simple not true...

Yeah, it is. And yeah, it is.

Read Lindsay. Overcome the Wokie aversion to truth and facts.

I am liberal and I reject Marxism... the false belief that if one is liberal,
they must be Marxists..

Then you don't know anything about the history and genesis of the very movement of which you claim you are a charter member. You're what they call their "useful idiot" class, which are the soft-headed, well meaning, Lefties.

Historically, you're the first people they eliminate after the Revolution. They kill their outright opponents, like me, first, then all those who are "not sufficiently" Revolutionary.

You're next.

the idiotic claim that the ''democrats'' during the civil war are the
same as democrats today..

Do you deny the Democrats' history? Are you going to avoid looking at what, exactly they are still doing today? Are you going to float the old nonsense about how racism "switched sides"? Nobody's buying.

I have seen massive changes in the two parties since 1970...

There it is! I predicted it! The "Great Switch," by which the Dems tried desperately to shed their own history and slap it on their opponents! And you bought it, hook, line and sinker.

Some things are soooo predictable!

The truth is that the switch to black Democrats happened in the late 20s and early 30s, under The New Deal, not in the '60s under the Southern Strategy. Statistics will bear that out, if you bother to check them. And you'll find that the Great Switch actually never took place at all, but is a fine example of Democrat myth-making.

Here's (black, female) historian Carol Swain on that: https://assets.ctfassets.net/qnesrjodfi ... script.pdf

(An example of the massive change in America is the fact that California
was once a very reliable red state.. it voted Republican in every
election for decades, and was still a red state when I moved here
in 1973.. you cannot equate what was once true to the reality on the
ground today)

Tell me about south LA. Tell me about how well the homeless are doing in Frisco, or up the coast in Portland. These are Dem strongholds. Take a camera, and cruise the city...not the nice areas, where they usually take the cameras, but all the places they never do. And tell me how wonderful, liberating and progressive the Dems have proved for those cities.

I can't wait.

Your allergy to facts is going to kill you. That's what being a member of The Woking Dead really means.

[Harbal]

Historically, you're the first people they eliminate after the Revolution.

A Marxist revolution in the USA, I'd certainly buy a ticket to see that.


I haven't read Marx, so I can't speak with any authority, but I suspect you are trying to pass Leninism off as Marxism.

[Immanuel Can]

The thought of Marxism getting a foothold in the USA is beyond ridiculous...

I wish you were right. But at present, the Lelftists and Neo-Marxists statistically own public education, social services, entertainment and the press, all by at least 85% majority, and politics through the Democrats. And Paolo Friere, the Neo-Marxist and admirer of Lenin, owns the third-most quoted book in the Humanities, the "bible" of the colleges of education...practically every last one.

It all goes back to a group of Neo-Marxists called "The Frankfurt School," who settled into Columbia university during WW2, and set out on a deliberate "Long March through the institutions" (their term). It took them half a century to achieve their goals, but they're pretty much where they hoped to be in American now. Sad, but true.

And that's why you can see streets on fire in America. And it's why you have BLM, and Pride marches, and Defund the Police campaigns, and open borders, and deliberate attempts to destroy the economy from politicians, and globalism, and new pushes for gun control, and drag-queen story hour in schools, and CRT in all the universities. These things are all part of the same political ideology.

Marxism is an ideology of universal socialism, driven by revolution. And "wokism" means "critical theory," which means, "being so indoctrinated into the Neo-Marxist optic lens, that you cannot help but see everything through it." Haven't you noticed how everything today is about "oppressed" and "oppressors"? Or how "capitalism" has become the great bogeyman? Or how the only people who want to talk about "race" all the time are Democrats? Or how wretchedly the American economy is doing, when a few simple policies (like refining more oil) could reverse it all? Or how organizations like BLM get billions of dollars, but never seem to produce a single improvement in the lives of the people they claim they are defending? Or have you wondered why anybody would think it was some sort of human right to introduce toddlers and little children to sexual deviancies?

These things are not accidental, nor are they unrelated. They all serve the Neo-Marxist goal of destabilizing the status quo. And they're all being done on purpose.

If they weren't, they wouldn't be happening at all.

But most Americans are simply unaware of who's driving the crazy train.

[Immanuel Can]

Historically, you're the first people they eliminate after the Revolution.

A Marxist revolution in the USA, I'd certainly buy a ticket to see that.

The tickets, sadly, are free.

[Harbal]

The thought of Marxism getting a foothold in the USA is beyond ridiculous...

I wish you were right. But at present, the Lelftists and Neo-Marxists statistically own public education, social services, entertainment and the press, all by at least 85% majority, and politics through the Democrats. And Paolo Friere, the Neo-Marxist and admirer of Lenin, owns the third-most quoted book in the Humanities, the "bible" of the colleges of education...practically every last one.

It all goes back to a group of Neo-Marxists called "The Frankfurt School," who settled into Columbia university during WW2, and set out on a deliberate "Long March through the institutions" (their term). It took them half a century to achieve their goals, but they're pretty much where they hoped to be in American now. Sad, but true.

And that's why you can see streets on fire in America. And it's why you have BLM, and Pride marches, and Defund the Police campaigns, and open borders, and deliberate attempts to destroy the economy from politicians, and globalism, and new pushes for gun control, and drag-queen story hour in schools, and CRT in all the universities. These things are all part of the same political ideology.

Marxism is an ideology of universal socialism, driven by revolution. And "wokism" means "critical theory," which means, "being so indoctrinated into the Neo-Marxist optic lens, that you cannot help but see everything through it." Haven't you noticed how everything today is about "oppressed" and "oppressors"? Or how "capitalism" has become the great bogeyman? Or how the only people who want to talk about "race" all the time are Democrats? Or how wretchedly the American economy is doing, when a few simple policies (like refining more oil) could reverse it all? Or how organizations like BLM get billions of dollars, but never seem to produce a single improvement in the lives of the people they claim they are defending? Or have you wondered why anybody would think it was some sort of human right to introduce toddlers and little children to sexual deviancies?

These things are not accidental, nor are they unrelated. They all serve the Neo-Marxist goal of destabilizing the status quo. And they're all being done on purpose.

If they weren't, they wouldn't be happening at all.

But most Americans are simply unaware of who's driving the crazy train.

That's all just right wing propaganda, as you very well know. Marxism isn't a threat to Western democracy, the real threat is what you have just obligingly provided an example of: scaremongering misinformation. It is everywhere, and it frightens me a hell of a lot more than the prospect of Marxism.

[Peter Kropotkin]

...being "woke" is Marxist in nature.. and that is simple not true...

Yeah, it is. And yeah, it is.

Read Lindsay. Overcome the Wokie aversion to truth and facts.

I am liberal and I reject Marxism... the false belief that if one is liberal,
they must be Marxists..

Then you don't know anything about the history and genesis of the very movement of which you claim you are a charter member. You're what they call their "useful idiot" class, which are the soft-headed, well meaning, Lefties.

Historically, you're the first people they eliminate after the Revolution. They kill their outright opponents, like me, first, then all those who are "not sufficiently" Revolutionary.

You're next.

the idiotic claim that the ''democrats'' during the civil war are the
same as democrats today..

Do you deny the Democrats' history? Are you going to avoid looking at what, exactly they are still doing today? Are you going to float the old nonsense about how racism "switched sides"? Nobody's buying.

I have seen massive changes in the two parties since 1970...

There it is! I predicted it! The "Great Switch," by which the Dems tried desperately to shed their own history and slap it on their opponents! And you bought it, hook, line and sinker.

Some things are soooo predictable!

The truth is that the switch to black Democrats happened in the late 20s and early 30s, under The New Deal, not in the '60s under the Southern Strategy. Statistics will bear that out, if you bother to check them. And you'll find that the Great Switch actually never took place at all, but is a fine example of Democrat myth-making.

Here's (black, female) historian Carol Swain on that: https://assets.ctfassets.net/qnesrjodfi ... script.pdf

(An example of the massive change in America is the fact that California
was once a very reliable red state.. it voted Republican in every
election for decades, and was still a red state when I moved here
in 1973.. you cannot equate what was once true to the reality on the
ground today)

Tell me about south LA. Tell me about how well the homeless are doing in Frisco, or up the coast in Portland. These are Dem strongholds. Take a camera, and cruise the city...not the nice areas, where they usually take the cameras, but all the places they never do. And tell me how wonderful, liberating and progressive the Dems have proved for those cities.

I can't wait.

Your allergy to facts is going to kill you. That's what being a member of The Woking Dead really means.

K: you make a awful lot of claims but no actual proof or evidence..
the problem you have is you start with claims and beliefs that have
no basis in fact... you are trapped in the monster of your own beliefs
in which you have no escape.... You haven't even done a "reevaluation of
values" in other words, you have pride in the courage of your convictions,
but you haven't actually examined your convictions.. you haven't attacked
your convictions.. you just accept them as true and valid...with no
understanding of what they mean or their value...

I know you can't change because to change requires far more courage
than you have, for change, requires courage...and for that, I am truly
sorry...

in fact, to list all the historical beliefs you hold that are wrong, would take
an entire book...one I don't have the time to write... let me say, I hope one
day, you find the courage to investigate your beliefs and see them for what
they are, wrong, prejudiced, ignorant, and false....but I won't hold my breath...

Kropotkin

[Immanuel Can]

That's all just right wing propaganda,

Read the book. Or read one of the others available that do the same job. They're around now.

I wish it were fiction. It's not.

[Immanuel Can]

K: you make a awful lot of claims but no actual proof or evidence..

Read the book. It's all there.