a defense of being "WOKE"

[Peter Kropotkin]

As a word of rebuke, one is called "woke",
which is defined as an insult to various progressives or leftist
movements, ideologies, as being "overzealous" or "insincere"
The word 'WOKE" is used as a pejorative, and is meant to
disparage people....

But I happily accept/call myself ''woke" and here's why...

Let us think about the term itself... "He woke up"
he became awake from being asleep.. being asleep, thus not
conscience to the reality around one.... in other words, to wake up
means to become conscience to reality, to no longer be asleep...
that is the base reference of being "woke" to become aware of...

So, let us see what the opposite of being "woke" is?
To be asleep, to be unaware of, not to be conscience...

Those who attack the concept of being "woke" actually want people
to be asleep, to be unconscious, to be unaware...not to know what is
going on....so, given a choice between being "woke" and being "asleep",
I for one will pick, every single time, to be awake, to be "woke"...

I read how people are complaining about the fact that in a tour of
Mount Vernon, the former home of George Washington, that they
were disturbed by descriptions of slavery... that these descriptions of
slavery were "woke"... but think about this for a second... they objected
to the very fact, the fact, that one of the central basis of life in
the United States at that time, say, 1790, is slavery....You cannot,
cannot accurately describe life in the United States during the 1790's
without describing slavery... but these people didn't want to be reminded of
that fact.. they wanted to be asleep, to be unconscious of the fact that
slavery existed.. it hurt their delicate feelings... of course, to be reminded
of the fact, the FACT, that millions of people in America were being held as
slaves might be uncomfortable for people, but that is the reality...

That fact, that basic fact that slavery existed and it makes people
uncomfortable, it the basis of this term of being called "woke"...
to become aware of the fact, that slavery existed is being ''WOKE",
to see reality as it is... that, according to those who want to hide
from reality, the "UNWOKE" as it were, means they want to see life
in rose colored glasses... a false world, where slavery didn't exist,
and where prejudice aren't baked into the American laws and constitution,
but those facts are uncomfortable for the "UNWOKE".... reality itself is
uncomfortable for those who practice being "UNWOKE"...

The "UNWOKE" don't want reality or truth, they want a reality that
is naïve and unrealistic, they want to be hidden from the reality, the
truth of existence.. that is what it means to be "UNWOKE"... that
reality, the truth is uncomfortable for those who want to remain "UNWOKE"
asleep, unconscious, unaware... reality is hateful for these 'UNWOKE"
types.. to be "UNWOKE", to call someone "WOKE" means the truth, reality is painful for them
and they want to remain asleep and unconscious to truth, reality..

and the reality and truths that the ''UNWOKE'' try to avoid is harsh truths
of existence, that slavery existed, that women were considered to be property,
that prejudice is baked into the very fabric of the American system and laws
and the constitution...otherwise, what is the point of slaves being called 3/5
of white people?

But the "UNWOKE" don't want to be reminded of this reality... they want to
remain asleep, unconscious, not aware of the reality of life..

But us "WOKE" people, we want to see truth, reality, as it is,
we don't have to hide or shield our eyes from reality/truth...
someone around here, I don't recall who said it, but someone
around here mentioned that "liberals'' don't feel as much disgust
to rotten meat as "conservatives" and why is that?
Because we aren't afraid of the truth, of reality as those
who toss around the word "WOKE".... I can face reality without
flinching or feeling revolted...for I am ''WOKE" and that means I
can see/accept the ugliness of existence... and I don't need to hide
behind rose colored glasses like the conservatives.. to dilute
the truth of reality by trying to pretend it doesn't exist like the ''UNWOKE"

I am "WOKE" and quite proud of it... I see facts and truths for what they are,
that climate change is real, that prejudice is baked into the laws and
constitution of the U.S.... that CRT is reality... that slavery existed
and that prejudice exists today, and is alive and well, among
the "UNWOKE".. I don't need rose colored glasses to see reality/the truths...

I am conscience, I am awake, I am aware... I AM WOKE.....
and I will remain that way...

AND if you object to being ''WOKE", ask yourself, why do you want to remain asleep,
unaware, unconscious?

Kropotkin

[Peter Kropotkin]

It has been reported, that CRT, Critical race theory, which actually
isn't taught in high school or junior high or elementary school,
but it taught in college, makes people aware of the past,
in which their forefathers practiced slavery, made them feel bad
about being white... supposedly.. anyway, this is, in part,
why we must not learn about CRT.... and I say, it is not only
good that people become uncomfortable with themselves,
and their race, I think it is GREAT.... the path to learning
is done through being uncomfortable... the great truths about
existence should make us feel bad, uncomfortable, awkward
about ourselves and who we were and who we are..

The great truths I have learned about myself and my reality has
made me feel bad, make me uncomfortable about who I am
and my own existence.. and that is the only way we learn the truth
and reality of who we are...
If we were to only stick to facts and beliefs that allow us to feel good
about ourselves and who we are, we will never grow, we will never
become who we are, if we don't challenge ourselves.. and our beliefs...

for us to grow as human beings, we must become uncomfortable,
we must become distressed; we must become uncomfortable
with who we are, past, present and in the future.....
and if we don't, we can't learn or grow or become...

for my growth from a young lad to becoming an adult, is a journey
of learning truths, realities that made me sad, that challenges me,
that make me uncomfortable with being human, with being an American,
with being male... My growth of being human comes when I am
learning truths and realities that make me squirm and feel very
uncomfortable.. that is how we know we are growing as human beings...
that the truths we learn make us writhe and agonize and toss at night...
The truths/reality that matter aren't easy truths/realities to learn...
that they must make us feel bad right down to the bone, and then and only
then can we rise to become something new.. aware of, being "WOKE"
to the truths/realities of life...

I AM WOKE....and thus I have learned truths and realities that made
me very, very uncomfortable.. but that is the only way we learn...
the only way we can grow into something closer to being human,
not just being animal/human, but becoming fully human...

Kropotkin

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Clearly the concept eludes you. Americans are so literal. They are incapable of subtlety. Are you suggesting that 'woke' means liberal?
I knew I should have ignored this irritating rubbish as soon as I saw that you couldn't spell the word 'defence'.

[Peter Kropotkin]

Clearly the concept eludes you. Americans are so literal. They are incapable of subtlety. Are you suggesting that 'woke' means liberal?
I knew I should have ignored this irritating rubbish as soon as I saw that you couldn't spell the word 'defence'.

K: another word for you....

Pedantic: Pedantic is an insulting word used to describe someone who annoys
others by correcting small errors, caring too much about minor details
or emphasizing their own expertise especially in some narrow or boring
subject matter...

Pedantic.... the word of the day...

Kropotkin

[Harbal]

I think the whole "woke" thing probably came about because there are a sufficient number of stupid people with polarised, unnuanced views around to have brought it about. It's just yet another case of two sets of extremist minorities buggering up the world for the rest of us.

[Peter Kropotkin]

Clearly the concept eludes you. Americans are so literal. They are incapable of subtlety. Are you suggesting that 'woke' means liberal?
I knew I should have ignored this irritating rubbish as soon as I saw that you couldn't spell the word 'defence'.

K: from my handy dandy dictionary:

defense vs defence: Defense and defence are both correct ways to spell the same word.
the difference between them, beside the one is spelled with a ''c'' and the other is spelled
with an ''s''. comes down to the part of the world in which they are used. In the U.S, people
spell it with an "s", defense.. as I am American, I spell it with an "S"

But thanks for playing ''Just exactly how ignorant am I?"

Kropotkin

[Harbal]

as I am American, I spell it with an "S"

Being American does not excuse you from behaving in a civilised fashion. Just because you all do it doesn't make it okay.

[Peter Kropotkin]

as I am American, I spell it with an "S"

Being American does not excuse you from behaving in a civilised fashion. Just because you all do it doesn't make it okay.

K: As you have deemed yourself as an "arbiter" of what is "civilized fashion"
which of the last 4 post, between myself and vegetariantaxidermy
is not within "civilized" fashion? and of course, why? What makes one
post "uncivilized" and another "civilized?" Inquiring minds want to know?

Kropotkin

[FlashDangerpants]

Clearly the concept eludes you. Americans are so literal. They are incapable of subtlety. Are you suggesting that 'woke' means liberal?
I knew I should have ignored this irritating rubbish as soon as I saw that you couldn't spell the word 'defence'.

K: another word for you....

Pedantic: Pedantic is an insulting word used to describe someone who annoys
others by correcting small errors, caring too much about minor details
or emphasizing their own expertise especially in some narrow or boring
subject matter...

Pedantic.... the word of the day...

Kropotkin

Oooh, this looks like a fun game. Let me try one.

Kropotkin: Noun, a very small bowl of extremely weak soup that may or may not actually be food, and could possibly just be water left over from the washing up process.

Kropotkin ... lesser word for a lesser day.

[Harbal]

as I am American, I spell it with an "S"

Being American does not excuse you from behaving in a civilised fashion. Just because you all do it doesn't make it okay.

K: As you have deemed yourself as an "arbiter" of what is "civilized fashion"
which of the last 4 post, between myself and vegetariantaxidermy
is not within "civilized" fashion? and of course, why? What makes one
post "uncivilized" and another "civilized?" Inquiring minds want to know?

Kropotkin

It's not about the posts, it's about your spelling.

[Immanuel Can]

I think the whole "woke" thing probably came about because there are a sufficient number of stupid people with polarised, unnuanced views around to have brought it about. It's just yet another case of two sets of extremist minorities buggering up the world for the rest of us.

Not wrong.

"Woke" is a grammatical error. It rhymes with "joke," and for pretty good reason. It should be "awakened," but the people who coined it to flatter themselves were too dumb to notice, apparently.

Wokies are marked by two things: unbelievable levels of smugness, and total inability to know their own history. Many of them don't even know they're just indoctrinated Neo-Marxists, and imagine they're something like "virtuous people" instead. They're overwhelmingly white, middle-class, spoiled and, it must be noted, either female or feminized. And they feel all kinds of things, but actually never think outside of the petty, silly Marxist frame into which they've been "woked."

They don't know basic facts about their own history. For example, when they complain about "slavery," they don't realize that 100% of the American slave owners were Democrats (i.e. Wokies' best buddies). They also don't know that all the governors who turned the hoses and dogs on the freedom marchers were Democrats. And they don't know that it was the Democrats who created the KKK. And they don't notice that all the cities that have been the stomping grounds of Woke-types and Democrats for decades now, unimpeded by any Republican intruders, are the worst hellholes for minorities that the USA actually has...Baltimore, Chicago, Atlanta, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland...Just like they don't know that Marxism is, by far, the most homicidal creed in human history, and ignore Cuba, North Korea, China, Russia, Congo, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Vietnam, Albania, and all the other places that the other Marxism's also turned into absolute economic, social and human rights disaster zones.

They don't actually care about minorities; they only care about positioning themselves as "champions of minorities." That's quite a different thing, as we find out. They actually think they're enlightened, special, virtuous, champions of the oppressed, and all that rubbish.

"Wokism" means talking about "critical theory," which is the opposite of "critical thinking." It means believing the world is made up of nothing but power blocks, keyed to things like race, gender, class and other nonsense. It means thinking that parents have no right to raise their own children, but they do have a right to murder them. It means you want to see kids in schools groomed into pedophilia or transism, so that they can be "disrupted" or "queer" revolutionaries (their terms).

For anybody who really wants to know Wokism, I recommend James Lindsay's new book, "Race Marxism." It's all in there.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Clearly the concept eludes you. Americans are so literal. They are incapable of subtlety. Are you suggesting that 'woke' means liberal?
I knew I should have ignored this irritating rubbish as soon as I saw that you couldn't spell the word 'defence'.

K: from my handy dandy dictionary:

defense vs defence: Defense and defence are both correct ways to spell the same word.
the difference between them, beside the one is spelled with a ''c'' and the other is spelled
with an ''s''. comes down to the part of the world in which they are used. In the U.S, people
spell it with an "s", defense.. as I am American, I spell it with an "S"

But thanks for playing ''Just exactly how ignorant am I?"

Kropotkin

There is only 'spelling'. There is no such thing as 'American spelling'-- just wrong spelling. Do you also spell 'fence' as 'fense'? In its compulsion to dumb everything down America has only managed to bastardise the language and ruin it. It was a failed attempt at phonetic spelling-- which goes a long way to explain American illiteracy. Why do they insist on making up their own words? It just makes them sound like idiots. Remember dubya Bush?
And that would be 'spelt', not 'spelled'. Noah Webster certainly has a lot to answer for.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I think the whole "woke" thing probably came about because there are a sufficient number of stupid people with polarised, unnuanced views around to have brought it about. It's just yet another case of two sets of extremist minorities buggering up the world for the rest of us.

Not wrong.

"Woke" is a grammatical error. It rhymes with "joke," and for pretty good reason. It should be "awakened," but the people who coined it to flatter themselves were too dumb to notice, apparently.

Wokies are marked by two things: unbelievable levels of smugness, and total inability to know their own history. Many of them don't even know they're just indoctrinated Neo-Marxists, and imagine they're something like "virtuous people" instead. They're overwhelmingly white, middle-class, spoiled and, it must be noted, either female or feminized. And they feel all kinds of things, but actually never think outside of the petty, silly Marxist frame into which they've been "woked."

They don't know basic facts about their own history. For example, when they complain about "slavery," they don't realize that 100% of the American slave owners were Democrats (i.e. Wokies' best buddies). They also don't know that all the governors who turned the hoses and dogs on the freedom marchers were Democrats. And they don't know that it was the Democrats who created the KKK. And they don't notice that all the cities that have been the stomping grounds of Woke-types and Democrats for decades now, unimpeded by any Republican intruders, are the worst hellholes for minorities that the USA actually has...Baltimore, Chicago, Atlanta, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland...Just like they don't know that Marxism is, by far, the most homicidal creed in human history, and ignore Cuba, North Korea, China, Russia, Congo, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Vietnam, Albania, and all the other places that the other Marxism's also turned into absolute economic, social and human rights disaster zones.

They don't actually care about minorities; they only care about positioning themselves as "champions of minorities." That's quite a different thing, as we find out. They actually think they're enlightened, special, virtuous, champions of the oppressed, and all that rubbish.

"Wokism" means talking about "critical theory," which is the opposite of "critical thinking." It means believing the world is made up of nothing but power blocks, keyed to things like race, gender, class and other nonsense. It means thinking that parents have no right to raise their own children, but they do have a right to murder them. It means you want to see kids in schools groomed into pedophilia or transism, so that they can be "disrupted" or "queer" revolutionaries (their terms).

For anybody who really wants to know Wokism, I recommend James Lindsay's new book, "Race Marxism." It's all in there.

Indeed. It's a hideous abomination and a perfect example of the American obsession with butchering the English language. It deserves to be a vicious insult for more than one reason.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Why do Americans love turning verbs into nouns and nouns into verbs? Is it to sound 'cool'? If that's not butchering and abusing language then I don't know what is.

[Immanuel Can]

Why do Americans love turning verbs into nouns and nouns into verbs? Is it to sound 'cool'? If that's not butchering and abusing language then I don't know what is.

You mean, why do they go around verbing nouns?