The Left Destroys EVERYTHING It Touches

[uwot]

...in the irony void between Mr Can's ears:

...I said that the "right wing" isn't a threat because nobody believes in it...

The people who organised and attended the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville clearly do. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59054166

GRT isn't even a thing. As VT pointed out, and you ignored, there's no "theory" there, except the label the Left has invented.

It doesn't matter what anyone calls it, the fact is that the people chanting 'You will not replace us' were presumably addressing a concern that other people will replace them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-40547461

It's a way of excusing the strategy the Dems are obviously using to try to undermine American democracy.
I asked you what else you thought they were doing? They're fighting for all three of a) open borders, b) benefits for illegals, and c) no voter ID laws. What's your answer? What are they doing, if not trying to pad their vote count?

Honouring what it says on The Statue of Liberty perhaps: "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." The Democratic Party has no need to pad their vote count, they have lost the popular vote only once this century, a fact that was acknowledged by the last Republican president: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... oronavirus

[Immanuel Can]

So you do believe in the theory that THE LEFT wants to import brown people to replace white people.

Brown and white has nothing to do with it at all. Citizen and non-citizen is the issue.

The most obvious explanation for no idenity cards, no citizenship, and benefits given to these folks seems to be that Biden appears to want new illegals to pad his vote count.

We both know he's doing that. So if it's not to pad the vote count, what's your theory for why he's doing it? I've asked you three times: you can't seem to think of any other reasonable explanation...

So it appears you believe it too.

We don't know he's doing any such thing.

Fourth time: what do you think he's doing?

[uwot]

...in the irony void between Mr Can's ears:

Fourth time: what do you think he's doing?

Mr Can demands that people answer him.

[FlashDangerpants]

I'm waiting for some evidence.

You remember "evidence," right? It's something you need to turn a mere assertion into a plausible claim...sort of the opposite of what was being done by the pasty guy in the last video you recommended.

In your own words Can, what is your evidence?

[Immanuel Can]

In your own words Can, what is your evidence?

Fifth time: What do you think Biden is doing?

Answer the question, or you have no justification to doubt the more obvious explanation.

[FlashDangerpants]

In your own words Can, what is your evidence?

Fifth time: What do you think Biden is doing?

Answer the question, or you have no justification to doubt the more obvious explanation.

He's not opening the borders in some free-for-all
He's not importing waves of illegal immigrants.
He can't provide much in the way of "benefits for illegals" whatever that exactly meant.

Unless you have .... EVIDENCE THAT SAYS OTHERWISE?

[FlashDangerpants]

...in the irony void between Mr Can's ears:

Fourth time: what do you think he's doing?

Mr Can demands that people answer him.

The fun thing about this thread is that Henry has been pushed aside so that Veggie can do his usual job of running interference for Mannie.

[Immanuel Can]

In your own words Can, what is your evidence?

Fifth time: What do you think Biden is doing?

Answer the question, or you have no justification to doubt the more obvious explanation.

He's not opening the borders in some free-for-all
He's not importing waves of illegal immigrants.
He can't provide much in the way of "benefits for illegals" whatever that exactly meant.

Unless you have .... EVIDENCE THAT SAYS OTHERWISE?

Well, you just say what you insist he's NOT doing, which is not an answer to the question.

But you want stats? Easy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57422618

So yes, he's opened the borders in a "free-for-all," as you call it. Yes, he is inviting "waves of illegal immigrants." He's also not even checking them for COVID -- even those he can find -- and he's surreptitiously transporting them all over the US. Meanwhile, the Dems have come out publicly and strongly against voter ID, as well. And you already have proof of his offer giving them money for something that's not even wrong: protecting children from traffickers and pedophiles, which you called "stealing" them.

Now: put that all together.

So what's your theory? What is Joe Biden actually doing? Sixth time...you're not answering.

Why not?

[FlashDangerpants]

Fifth time: What do you think Biden is doing?

Answer the question, or you have no justification to doubt the more obvious explanation.

He's not opening the borders in some free-for-all
He's not importing waves of illegal immigrants.
He can't provide much in the way of "benefits for illegals" whatever that exactly meant.

Unless you have .... EVIDENCE THAT SAYS OTHERWISE?

Well, you just say what you insist he's NOT doing, which is not an answer to the question.

But you want stats? Easy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57422618

So yes, he's opened the borders in a "free-for-all," as you call it. Yes, he is inviting "waves of illegal immigrants." He's also not even checking them for COVID -- even those he can find -- and he's surreptitiously transporting them all over the US. Meanwhile, the Dems have come out publicly and strongly against voter ID, as well. And you already have proof of his offer giving them money for something that's not even wrong: protecting children from traffickers and pedophiles, which you called "stealing" them.

Now: put that all together.

So what's your theory? What is Joe Biden actually doing? Sixth time...you're not answering.

Why not?

So that was a story about the US immigration authorities detaining lots of illegal immigrants at the border. Not evidence for your allegations at all. Evidence of an open borders free for all would be a drastic fall in the numbers detained, you provided evidence of a rise, which contradicts your own claim.

You definitely need to provide evidence of this "surreptitiously transporting them all over the US" claim, which doesn't sound very likely.

He isn't paying compensation for child sepearation to new immigrants, he ended that policy. I already asked you, what is the money he is providing for these illegal immigrants that you say HE is brining in? Don't accuse me of avoiding questions when you are the master of doing that exact thing.

[henry quirk]

Henry has been pushed aside

[vegetariantaxidermy]

...in the irony void between Mr Can's ears:

Fourth time: what do you think he's doing?

Mr Can demands that people answer him.

The fun thing about this thread is that Henry has been pushed aside so that Veggie can do his usual job of running interference for Mannie.

What a stupid thing to say. You haven't responded to a single one of my points anyway. Not surprising. You don't seem to have anything intelligent to say in this particular discussion. I've had plenty of run-ins with IC. Our politics and world view couldn't be more different. I simply take each individual post on here on its own merits, regardless of who's written it. If something happens to be true I will state as much. If I find a comment to be insightful I will say that too. I don't know where you are from but you have that infuriating American habit of basing whether or not something is 'true' on what the personal political persuasion is of the person saying it, as if THAT has anything to do with it. If something doesn't fit with your political agenda then it's not true. Ridiculous.

[Immanuel Can]

Evidence of an open borders free for all would be a drastic fall in the numbers detained

Only if enforcement were equal.

But you and I both know that not only have detainments increased, but that the flood of persons across the border is known to be vastly higher. Joe Biden knows it, too....well, if he knows anything anymore, which is manifestly dubious. https://news.yahoo.com/biden-administra ... 11588.html

You definitely need to provide evidence of this "surreptitiously transporting them all over the US" claim, which doesn't sound very likely.

I just love the way you use the word "need." It's like you don't even know what it means. But I'll humour your demand.

https://denvergazette.com/news/biden-se ... 04da0.html

But now I'll have an answer to that question: What is Biden doing? That's the seventh time I've asked you.

[FlashDangerpants]

Evidence of an open borders free for all would be a drastic fall in the numbers detained

Only if enforcement were equal.

But you and I both know that not only have detainments increased, but that the flood of persons across the border is known to be vastly higher. Joe Biden knows it, too....well, if he knows anything anymore, which is manifestly dubious. https://news.yahoo.com/biden-administra ... 11588.html

You definitely need to provide evidence of this "surreptitiously transporting them all over the US" claim, which doesn't sound very likely.

I just love the way you use the word "need." It's like you don't even know what it means. But I'll humour your demand.

https://denvergazette.com/news/biden-se ... 04da0.html

But now I'll have an answer to that question: What is Biden doing? That's the seventh time I've asked you.

Sounds like he's dealing with the broken immigration regime in the usual way that Americans do this shit, by misusing some power they do have instead of getting a deal done to implement a sane system.

They had similar nonsense when the president wanted to build a wall but Congress wouldn't grant the funds, so he abused his control of the armed forces budget and decalred an emergency to get funds. Now you have an equal but opposite response with some parole option being used in ways it wasn't designed for. American politics hasn't involved respect for norms in a worryingly long time. This shit could have been avoided by allowing Bush or Obama to create that path to citizenship thing that moderates have been recommending for decades.

These secret flights sound a lot like they are just shuttling undocumented immigrants to less crowded facilities where they can be processed according to the laws they have for doing that stuff. A dedicated conspiracy theorist would of course assume some darker purpose, but the evidence on offer doesn't support that sort of conclusion.

As for what I think Biden is doing.... He won an election in which he said that the previous regime ran in inhumane and overly restrictive immigration policy. I think he's vaguely trying to do something to make the policies less inhumane and less restrictive. I think it's meagre, I think they should have a DREAM act or something similar to put together a sane system, but I guess that would require cross party consensus which isn't something America can rustle up in the 21st Century.

Now I would like to remind you that you are avoiding a question...
He isn't paying compensation for child sepearation to new immigrants, he ended that policy. I already asked you, what is the money he is providing for these illegal immigrants that you say HE is brining in?

[FlashDangerpants]

You haven't responded to a single one of my points anyway.

Did you make any? All you've really said is that you never heard of replacement theory and you don't believe it exists. You have access to Google, sort yourself out.

Everything else has just been your generic screeching about wokies.

[Immanuel Can]

But now I'll have an answer to that question: What is Biden doing? That's the seventh time I've asked you.

Sounds like he's dealing with the broken immigration regime in the usual way that Americans do this shit, by misusing some power they do have instead of getting a deal done to implement a sane system.

Well, that's certainly a nice summary of the present administration's activities.

Now I would like to remind you that you are avoiding a question...

No, it's one I'm going to choose to ignore because it's beside the issue, and would only provide a distraction. You have the evidence; you refuse to see it...and I can do nothing about that. But even if we were to decide it's not true that Biden is giving illegals any money, or that maybe he's sending them to Florida at night to work on their tans, that would be entirely aside from the question whether or not having no border control is a good idea.

The drug cartels and human traffickers, of course, think Biden's wonderful. He's fueling their industry marvelously; because they control the border from the Mexican side, and no migrant gets through without paying them, in some form.