The character posing as AGE makes a claim … but is it FACT?

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Re: The character posing as AGE makes a claim … but is it FACT?

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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:21 pm
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:09 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:22 pm
That’s a very mean and unfair assessment of why people on this forum think the way they do and why they are here.
Really? Of all the things that are said on this forum, you think it's mean for me to say that... and you do not see any truth in it about what some people do?
We’re all guilty of doing the things we accuse others of doing…don’t get all hissy now, just accept the way people are, and know anything you say will not change them.
Hissy? Ah, now your projection along with a lecture. :wink:
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Lacewing, it’s ok to be fucking nuts…as long as people are not going around with a samurai sword slicing people’s heads off, they are basically free to be as crazy as they want..as long as they are not physically hurting others…I’m nuts, I’m crazy, and I’m perfectly ok with that…it’s other people who seem to have a problem with it, and so there is nothing I can do about that, and quite frankly do not care what other think or what they say.
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:27 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:21 pm
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:09 pm
Really? Of all the things that are said on this forum, you think it's mean for me to say that... and you do not see any truth in it about what some people do?
We’re all guilty of doing the things we accuse others of doing…don’t get all hissy now, just accept the way people are, and know anything you say will not change them.
Hissy? Ah, now your projection along with a lecture. :wink:
Pot kettle… just quit while your ahead…unless you enjoy the tussle…your turn to swipe…😀
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:22 pm Now your being manic…see how easy it is to get in this state…do carry on..

Pot kettle, kettle pot…and all.
Wow. You really are over the edge. Since when are a few questions to challenge your claims, being manic? I hope you feel better soon. Not at all interested in the crazy trip you seem to be on recently. You know you go on crazy trips -- you've acknowledged it before. But you seem to get all bent if someone points it out to you when you're doing it. :D
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:38 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:22 pm Now your being manic…see how easy it is to get in this state…do carry on..

Pot kettle, kettle pot…and all.
Wow. You really are over the edge. Since when are a few questions to challenge your claims, being manic? I hope you feel better soon. Not at all interested in the crazy trip you seem to be on recently. You know you go on crazy trips -- you've acknowledged it before. But you seem to get all bent if someone points it out to you when you're doing it. :D
I really don’t give a crap about your opinion of what you think of me. You waste your breath. Time to shut up before you catch a bit of my insanity, it’s contagious don’t you know…you wouldn’t want that would you miss prim and proper.

I’ve already told you I don’t need you to point my crazy out, I already know I’m crazy…please get off your pedestal.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:45 pm I really don’t give a crap about your opinion of what you think of me.
My response to what you say is genuine, whether you like it or not. It's already clear that you currently don't give a crap about much of anything.
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:45 pmYou waste your breath.
Actually, I'm having fun. It's interesting to notice what people are doing and saying that makes no sense... and then ask them about it.
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:45 pm you wouldn’t want that would you miss prim and proper
:lol: Oh yeah, that's me! :lol:
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:45 pmI’ve already told you I don’t need you to point my crazy out, I already know I’m crazy…please get off your pedestal.
Why do you think someone would be on a pedestal for challenging your bullshit? It's very obvious and easy.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:45 pm
Age wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:16 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:47 pm

See, there you go again, you can't even remember when or where the answers to every question are, when they have been given. You are a total cuckoo.
LOL

Do you REALLY BELIEVE that you have the ABILITY and ACTUALLY HAVE the MEMORY to REMEMBER WHEN or WHERE the answers to EVERY question ARE.

LOOK, it was you who asked the CLARIFYING QUESTION, "Is it FACT?"

Have you PROVIDED thee ACTUAL True, Right, and Correct answer to your OWN question?

if yes, then what is 'that' answer?
I'm going to go away now....I just can't....I really cannot deal with your insane insanity anymore.
Okay, fair enough.
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Atla wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:03 pm
Skepdick wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:25 am
Atla wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:15 am Humans weren't created, they just evolved.
"Human" is a socially constructed collective noun.

There is no such thing as "human" in biology unless you specify a gnetic distance which classifies arbitrarily selected genotypes from planet Earth as "human" and "non-human".
Awww it tried to get attention today too so cute.
And you RUN AWAY again "atla" when what you CLAIM is true is POINTED OUT to you to NOT BE true AT ALL.

See, what you do NOT YET realize is that 'what' human beings evolve FROM is Creation, Itself.

If you EVER become Truly interested in LEARNING MORE, then let us KNOW.
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:09 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:38 am I know sometimes most social interaction on the Internet seems dominated by people with various mental and personality issues, but sometimes this board literally seems like it must be mostly populated by people who are institutionalized.
Yes, it does! Or... people who should be. :lol:

It appears to me that people on this forum who manically present their views/beliefs/ideas as uniquely tied to some kind of divine/profound truth, often seem to use this forum to go even deeper into whatever madness/delusion they feel driven/possessed by.
Which is EXACTLY what 'you', 'lacewing", DO.

'you' ACTUALLY BELIEVE that YOUR WAY of LOOKING AT things is the BEST and ONLY REAL True way. Your REJECT absolutely ANY OTHER WAY than YOUR WAY, without EVER even 'trying to' understand the "OTHER" WAY.

And, you do this CLAIMING the whatever that is FREE, and FLOWING, and DANCING within 'you' is driving/possessing you.

So, talk about PROJECTION in one of its GREATEST EXAMPLES here.

LOL The VERY 'thing/s' you RIDICULE "others" about and doing are the EXACT SAME as what express and do.
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:09 pm Perhaps if they were courageous and creative enough to function like productive human beings in the world and in their communities, and to explore a broader range of awareness and potential than the little nits they love to focus on and possess, they might not fester away here as hateful, lazy, dishonest, and/or delusional cowards claiming that such bullshit is their supposed proof of association with truth/god.
And, from my perspective "lacewing" you have about one of the MOST NARROWEST, SHALLOWEST, and SHORT-SIGHTED vision of things here.

You are COMPLETELY and UTTERLY UNABLE to LOOK AT and SEE ANY thing other than what you ALREADY BELIEVE is true.

How about instead of just 'trying to' RIDICULE "others", just because they have a DIFFERENT VIEW than you, you instead gain some True understanding?
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:25 pm
Dontaskme to Terrapin" wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:49 am Lets just stick someone in an institution for mental issues because they choose to think differently to us. :shock: fucking evil.
I don't think it's just a matter of thinking differently. Most of us here think differently.
What is meant by, "Most of us here think differently"?[/quote]

Name two people here who think the same.

Now, of course, EVERY one here thinks the same on some things and thinks differently on other things. Even 'you', "lacewing", think the EXACT same as 'me' on some things, but there are NO two people who think the same on EVERY thing. So, EVERY one thinks differently, and NOT just "most".

But in saying and POINTING OUT this IRREFUTABLE FACT how thee One and ONLY Truth is FOUND, ASCERTAINED, and OBTAINED, like PROVEN in the above example, is by and through One WAY, which is ALREADY KNOWN by the way.

And, because 'you' TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH THIS "lacewing" and BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY that this ABSOLUTELY does NOT EXIST PROVES WHY 'you' STILL do NOT YET KNOW what that One and ONLY ACTUAL Truth IS.

YET I can PROVE what I say here BECAUSE I KNOW HOW to OBTAIN what 'you' BELIEVE can NOT BE.
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:25 pm There are other characteristics that can reveal if someone has gone over the edge and/or is fucking nuts, and that seems valid to point out.
YET LOL ALL you can do "lacewing" is "point out" that some one "else" is "nuts", (just because they have a DIFFERENT VIEW than you do), without you EVER being ABLE to EXPLAIN WHY they are, supposedly, "nuts".

For example, you want to CLAIM that "I am nuts", but you can NOT PROVE this NOR EXPLAIN WHY this could even be true, other than; you LOOK AT and SEE things DIFFERENTLY than i do.
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:25 pm No offense, truly, but I've honestly been wondering if you were off some meds or over-the-edge lately? :) You definitely seem to have different tangents you vigorously go on. Your "I hate life, so let's all hurry up and die" rants seem rather extreme. Seriously, is that the best you can do with this brief/temporary life experience?
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:51 pm
Atla to Age wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:15 am Unless you can prove otherwise, so far you haven't provided proof for any of your claims, ie. you're a liar and everyone knows it by now.
Agreed... throughout his years on these forums, Age/Ken has only supported his claims with more claims, and/or lies and avoidance.
Name a CLAIM I have made, which you CLAIM I have NOT provided proof or have NOT supported, and then we can LOOK AT "that", and DISCUSS.

Also, name just ONCE where you CLAIM I have "lied".

We will then SEE who REALLY does NOT support THEIR CLAIMS, NOR back up THEIR CLAIMS with provided proof.

Also, and I have FORGOTTEN how many times I have INFORMED you, but one can NOT provide proof to those who BELIEVE proof does NOT exist and therefore can NOT be provided.
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:51 pm It's ridiculous and obvious, and only worthwhile for examining and toying with the depths and characteristics of human need for, and attachment to, delusion.
And, your OBVIOUS attachment to your OWN DELUSION "lacewing" is BLINDING.
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Lacewing wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:40 am
Actually, I'm having fun.
I know you are and so am I

What else is there do in life.

People tend to use other people as their main source of personal entertainment and fun. We're like little dancing puppets to each other. You pull my string and I'll pull yours kind of thing. Life for human to human is one wild orgy and feast. We've even involved animals as part of our entertainment by placing them at the centre of our attention. We've put them in zoos and secure parks against their will, none of them have any rights or are able to consent to their imprisonment. But that's ok, as long as it's fun for us. The fun and entertainment that comes with people watching and judging though - is more addictive, the fun and entertainment reaped from this activity is limitless.

I guess any distraction away from the void and emptiness of real reality is better and worth persuing, using other people seems to be a keen favorite. What else is there to focus on...maybe watching paint dry! :D

We're all in the same one lifeboat here. We can only hope and dream, things will get better.


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Age wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:19 am
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:51 pm
Atla to Age wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:15 am Unless you can prove otherwise, so far you haven't provided proof for any of your claims, ie. you're a liar and everyone knows it by now.
Agreed... throughout his years on these forums, Age/Ken has only supported his claims with more claims, and/or lies and avoidance.
Name a CLAIM I have made, which you CLAIM I have NOT provided proof or have NOT supported, and then we can LOOK AT "that", and DISCUSS.
If Lacewing can't think of one, I have a suggestion.
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:20 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:37 pm
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:25 pm
I don't think it's just a matter of thinking differently. Most of us here think differently. There are other characteristics that can reveal if someone has gone over the edge and/or is fucking nuts, and that seems valid to point out. No offense, truly, but I've honestly been wondering if you were off some meds or over-the-edge lately? :) You definitely seem to have different tangents you vigorously go on. Your "I hate life, so let's all hurry up and die" rants seem rather extreme. Seriously, is that the best you can do with this brief/temporary life experience?
I think you are wrong in your assessment of the human condition, that’s all, but you are entitled to make it, but I do not agree with it. I think it’s spiteful.
What is (and has been) your assessment of the human condition?

I was saying what I see in some human behaviors. Doesn't seem unreasonable.
That is certainly NOT 'unreasonable' AT ALL. But ONLY if you have the UNDERSTANDING that you could be Wrong. Which you appear to NOT have AT ALL "lacewing".
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:20 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:37 pm Listen you don’t know me and I don’t know you…you don’t know the people on this forum and neither do I so it’s futile and pointless to make judgments about them.
Haven't you done so in regard to Age and others?
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:37 pm Let people be…if people want to be manic it’s really no one else’s business…it really isn’t…condemning them to the nut job mentality is not helping anyone.
So, we're not supposed to speak about what we see in regard to other people? Really? What if they're being too fucking nuts to realize it for themselves -- what's the best way to help them? Ignore them? Or tell them they seem "off", based on these other experiences we've had with them?
'you', "lacewing", if you lived in previous days, would be one of those who you would judge and class as "fucking nuts to realize it for them self", the person who was saying, 'That actually the sun does NOT revolve around earth and instead the earth revolves around the sun'. And, you would judge them as being "crazy" solely because they were saying the opposite of what you BELIEVED and were MAINTAINING was true.
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:20 pm What do you do with people you think are being crazy?
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:25 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:22 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:42 pm

Why do you need to keep asking for clarifcation of questions you pose to people?

What the hell is wrong with you, I thought you said you know how the mind and brain works, if that is true you would not have to keep asking for clarification in the questions you pose to others, you are so weird.
Good point! :lol:
It is..😀 indeed.
But KNOWING how the Mind and the brain ACTUALLY WORK does NOT mean that that one also KNOWS EXACTLY what the thoughts are within "another" body. So, to gain CLARITY and KNOW, FOR SURE, clarifying questions are NEEDED.
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