The character posing as AGE makes a claim … but is it FACT?

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Skepdick wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:25 am
Atla wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:15 am Humans weren't created, they just evolved.
"Human" is a socially constructed collective noun.

There is no such thing as "human" in biology unless you specify a gnetic distance which classifies arbitrarily selected genotypes from planet Earth as "human" and "non-human".
Awww it tried to get attention today too so cute.
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Atla wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:01 pm
Age wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:20 pm
Atla wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:06 pm As expected, no proof for anything here, just calling conception "creation".
Yes, ALL of 'us' can recognize and see once again that Age is a liar nothing more.
If that is what EVERY one of 'you' can recognize and see, then that is PERFECTLY FINE and OKAY with 'me'.
If you say so :)
Best response ever.
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Terrapin Station wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:38 am I know sometimes most social interaction on the Internet seems dominated by people with various mental and personality issues, but sometimes this board literally seems like it must be mostly populated by people who are institutionalized.
Yes, it does! Or... people who should be. :lol:

It appears to me that people on this forum who manically present their views/beliefs/ideas as uniquely tied to some kind of divine/profound truth, often seem to use this forum to go even deeper into whatever madness/delusion they feel driven/possessed by. Perhaps if they were courageous and creative enough to function like productive human beings in the world and in their communities, and to explore a broader range of awareness and potential than the little nits they love to focus on and possess, they might not fester away here as hateful, lazy, dishonest, and/or delusional cowards claiming that such bullshit is their supposed proof of association with truth/god.
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Atla wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:03 pm Awww it tried to get attention today too so cute.
Awww. It focused its attention away from the point.

So cute (but mostly just dumb).
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:09 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:38 am I know sometimes most social interaction on the Internet seems dominated by people with various mental and personality issues, but sometimes this board literally seems like it must be mostly populated by people who are institutionalized.
Yes, it does! Or... people who should be. :lol:

It appears to me that people on this forum who manically present their views/beliefs/ideas as uniquely tied to some kind of divine/profound truth, often seem to use this forum to go even deeper into whatever madness/delusion they feel driven/possessed by. Perhaps if they were courageous and creative enough to function like productive human beings in the world and in their communities, and to explore a broader range of awareness and potential than the little nits they love to focus on and possess, they might not fester away here as hateful, lazy, dishonest, and/or delusional cowards claiming that such bullshit is their supposed proof of association with truth/god.
That’s a very mean and unfair assessment of why people on this forum think the way they do and why they are here. But that’s only typical response from someone like you. Your assessment of people’s mental state is part of the evil that in this world. You have no idea what you are talking about. Walk a mile in other peoples shoes before you make such ridiculous comments about the way they choose to perceive their reality …people have got lives outside this forum, and just because it seems they are here constantly does not mean they have no other life..that’s just spiteful to think like that. Most people who post here have or are still having very productive lives outside of the forum, you have very strange beliefs about people’s motives for being on this forum. You are an ignoramous.
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Dontaskme to Terrapin" wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:49 am Lets just stick someone in an institution for mental issues because they choose to think differently to us. :shock: fucking evil.
I don't think it's just a matter of thinking differently. Most of us here think differently. There are other characteristics that can reveal if someone has gone over the edge and/or is fucking nuts, and that seems valid to point out. No offense, truly, but I've honestly been wondering if you were off some meds or over-the-edge lately? :) You definitely seem to have different tangents you vigorously go on. Your "I hate life, so let's all hurry up and die" rants seem rather extreme. Seriously, is that the best you can do with this brief/temporary life experience?
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:25 pm
Dontaskme to Terrapin" wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:49 am Lets just stick someone in an institution for mental issues because they choose to think differently to us. :shock: fucking evil.
I don't think it's just a matter of thinking differently. Most of us here think differently. There are other characteristics that can reveal if someone has gone over the edge and/or is fucking nuts, and that seems valid to point out. No offense, truly, but I've honestly been wondering if you were off some meds or over-the-edge lately? :) You definitely seem to have different tangents you vigorously go on. Your "I hate life, so let's all hurry up and die" rants seem rather extreme. Seriously, is that the best you can do with this brief/temporary life experience?
I think you are wrong in your assessment of the human condition, that’s all, but you are entitled to make it, but I do not agree with it. I think it’s spiteful.

Listen you don’t know me and I don’t know you…you don’t know the people on this forum and neither do I so it’s futile and pointless to make judgments about them.

Let people be…if people want to be manic it’s really no one else’s business…it really isn’t…condemning them to the nut job mentality is not helping anyone.
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Atla to Age wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:15 am Unless you can prove otherwise, so far you haven't provided proof for any of your claims, ie. you're a liar and everyone knows it by now.
Agreed... throughout his years on these forums, Age/Ken has only supported his claims with more claims, and/or lies and avoidance. It's ridiculous and obvious, and only worthwhile for examining and toying with the depths and characteristics of human need for, and attachment to, delusion.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:22 pm
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:09 pm It appears to me that people on this forum who manically present their views/beliefs/ideas as uniquely tied to some kind of divine/profound truth, often seem to use this forum to go even deeper into whatever madness/delusion they feel driven/possessed by. Perhaps if they were courageous and creative enough to function like productive human beings in the world and in their communities, and to explore a broader range of awareness and potential than the little nits they love to focus on and possess, they might not fester away here as hateful, lazy, dishonest, and/or delusional cowards claiming that such bullshit is their supposed proof of association with truth/god.
That’s a very mean and unfair assessment of why people on this forum think the way they do and why they are here.
Really? Of all the things that are said on this forum, you think it's mean for me to say that... and you do not see any truth in it about what some people do?
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:51 pm
Atla to Age wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:15 am Unless you can prove otherwise, so far you haven't provided proof for any of your claims, ie. you're a liar and everyone knows it by now.
Agreed... throughout his years on these forums, Age/Ken has only supported his claims with more claims, and/or lies and avoidance. It's ridiculous and obvious, and only worthwhile for examining and toying with the depths and characteristics of human need for, and attachment to, delusion.
All philosophers are attached to their delusions. Including you.

Sometimes it feels like when we are not being heard, when we are bombarded with opposition..it feels like we are going insane.

It’s not fair to judge people ..but we all do it so as to save our sanity and avoid the burn that feels like the insanity of opposition…we can only understand how we are, and never how other people are.

We only hurt ourselves when we argue with harsh judgments, never other people, because they have nothing to do with the the feelings of others, they can only relate to them if they recognise them.

be clear about that…we are all just trying to live here best we can, and get to know ourselves with the only knowledge we have available, the knowledge we ourselves have made up…No one has been alive before, so we’re all just fumbling along in the same situation trying to do the best we can, and to live out this strange existence we didn’t choose to be in.

It’s ok to manic sometimes, we need to just allow people to be, and express themselves how they want to, because people cannot be any different than how they are…they can only be who they are, and that should be enough…
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:37 pm
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:25 pm
Dontaskme to Terrapin" wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:49 am Lets just stick someone in an institution for mental issues because they choose to think differently to us. :shock: fucking evil.
I don't think it's just a matter of thinking differently. Most of us here think differently. There are other characteristics that can reveal if someone has gone over the edge and/or is fucking nuts, and that seems valid to point out. No offense, truly, but I've honestly been wondering if you were off some meds or over-the-edge lately? :) You definitely seem to have different tangents you vigorously go on. Your "I hate life, so let's all hurry up and die" rants seem rather extreme. Seriously, is that the best you can do with this brief/temporary life experience?
I think you are wrong in your assessment of the human condition, that’s all, but you are entitled to make it, but I do not agree with it. I think it’s spiteful.
What is (and has been) your assessment of the human condition?

I was saying what I see in some human behaviors. Doesn't seem unreasonable.
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:37 pm Listen you don’t know me and I don’t know you…you don’t know the people on this forum and neither do I so it’s futile and pointless to make judgments about them.
Haven't you done so in regard to Age and others?
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:37 pm Let people be…if people want to be manic it’s really no one else’s business…it really isn’t…condemning them to the nut job mentality is not helping anyone.
So, we're not supposed to speak about what we see in regard to other people? Really? What if they're being too fucking nuts to realize it for themselves -- what's the best way to help them? Ignore them? Or tell them they seem "off", based on these other experiences we've had with them? What do you do with people you think are being crazy?
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:09 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:22 pm
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:09 pm It appears to me that people on this forum who manically present their views/beliefs/ideas as uniquely tied to some kind of divine/profound truth, often seem to use this forum to go even deeper into whatever madness/delusion they feel driven/possessed by. Perhaps if they were courageous and creative enough to function like productive human beings in the world and in their communities, and to explore a broader range of awareness and potential than the little nits they love to focus on and possess, they might not fester away here as hateful, lazy, dishonest, and/or delusional cowards claiming that such bullshit is their supposed proof of association with truth/god.
That’s a very mean and unfair assessment of why people on this forum think the way they do and why they are here.
Really? Of all the things that are said on this forum, you think it's mean for me to say that... and you do not see any truth in it about what some people do?
We’re all guilty of doing the things we accuse others of doing…don’t get all hissy now, just accept the way people are, and know anything you say will not change them.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:42 pm
Age wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:28 pm
Also, WHY did you NOT just answer my two CLARIFYING QUESTIONS posed to you?
Why do you need to keep asking for clarifcation of questions you pose to people?

What the hell is wrong with you, I thought you said you know how the mind and brain works, if that is true you would not have to keep asking for clarification in the questions you pose to others, you are so weird.
Good point! :lol:
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Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:20 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:37 pm
Lacewing wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:25 pm
I don't think it's just a matter of thinking differently. Most of us here think differently. There are other characteristics that can reveal if someone has gone over the edge and/or is fucking nuts, and that seems valid to point out. No offense, truly, but I've honestly been wondering if you were off some meds or over-the-edge lately? :) You definitely seem to have different tangents you vigorously go on. Your "I hate life, so let's all hurry up and die" rants seem rather extreme. Seriously, is that the best you can do with this brief/temporary life experience?
I think you are wrong in your assessment of the human condition, that’s all, but you are entitled to make it, but I do not agree with it. I think it’s spiteful.
What is (and has been) your assessment of the human condition?

I was saying what I see in some human behaviors. Doesn't seem unreasonable.
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:37 pm Listen you don’t know me and I don’t know you…you don’t know the people on this forum and neither do I so it’s futile and pointless to make judgments about them.
Haven't you done so in regard to Age and others?
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:37 pm Let people be…if people want to be manic it’s really no one else’s business…it really isn’t…condemning them to the nut job mentality is not helping anyone.
So, we're not supposed to speak about what we see in regard to other people? Really? What if they're being too fucking nuts to realize it for themselves -- what's the best way to help them? Ignore them? Or tell them they seem "off", based on these other experiences we've had with them? What do you do with people you think are being crazy?
Now your being manic…see how easy it is to get in this state…do carry on..

Pot kettle, kettle pot…and all.
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Sculptor wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:22 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:42 pm
Age wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:28 pm
Also, WHY did you NOT just answer my two CLARIFYING QUESTIONS posed to you?
Why do you need to keep asking for clarifcation of questions you pose to people?

What the hell is wrong with you, I thought you said you know how the mind and brain works, if that is true you would not have to keep asking for clarification in the questions you pose to others, you are so weird.
Good point! :lol:
It is..😀 indeed.
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