The character posing as AGE makes a claim … but is it FACT?

[Age]

Again you lie and show no proof.

What does the word 'lie' even mean or refer to, to 'you', "atla"?

You appear to have a VERY DIFFERENT understanding of the word 'lie' than I have previously observed among 'you', human beings.

That's just "creation" by humans, with nothing more going on as far as we can tell.

And as I was SAYING and had ALREADY POINTED OUT to 'you', 'you' have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE NOR IDEA in regards to what I was ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.

Anyway, how do you think or envision human beings were created, just like absolutely EVERY thing else was created, except, OF COURSE, besides thee One and ONLY Universe, Itself?

And if to 'you' lot there is "NOTHING MORE going on, as far as you can tell", then this is EVIDENCE that 'you' are NOT LOOKING very wide nor far afield.

Humans weren't created, they just evolved.

So, if the one known as "atla" here is a 'human', then 'it' was NOT created by the sperm of the male gendered human body coming together with the egg of the female gendered human body, but just 'evolved'.

Now, if you want to call ALL created things as just evolved, then so be it. This STILL fits in with 'what' works PERFECTLY.

You will just have to accept that if you have had a baby then you did NOT create 'it' with someone "else". That baby just evolved from when 'you' and "another" came together.

It ALL STILL works PERFECTLY, for me.

Unless you can prove otherwise, so far you haven't provided proof for any of your claims, ie. you're a liar and everyone knows it by now.

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And what you BELIEVE is true SHINES VERY BRIGHTLY for ALL of 'us' to RECOGNIZE and SEE.

[Atla]

What does the word 'lie' even mean or refer to, to 'you', "atla"?

You appear to have a VERY DIFFERENT understanding of the word 'lie' than I have previously observed among 'you', human beings.



And as I was SAYING and had ALREADY POINTED OUT to 'you', 'you' have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE NOR IDEA in regards to what I was ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.

Anyway, how do you think or envision human beings were created, just like absolutely EVERY thing else was created, except, OF COURSE, besides thee One and ONLY Universe, Itself?

And if to 'you' lot there is "NOTHING MORE going on, as far as you can tell", then this is EVIDENCE that 'you' are NOT LOOKING very wide nor far afield.

Humans weren't created, they just evolved.

So, if the one known as "atla" here is a 'human', then 'it' was NOT created by the sperm of the male gendered human body coming together with the egg of the female gendered human body, but just 'evolved'.

Now, if you want to call ALL created things as just evolved, then so be it. This STILL fits in with 'what' works PERFECTLY.

You will just have to accept that if you have had a baby then you did NOT create 'it' with someone "else". That baby just evolved from when 'you' and "another" came together.

It ALL STILL works PERFECTLY, for me.

Unless you can prove otherwise, so far you haven't provided proof for any of your claims, ie. you're a liar and everyone knows it by now.

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And what you BELIEVE is true SHINES VERY BRIGHTLY for ALL of 'us' to RECOGNIZE and SEE.

As expected, no proof for anything here, just calling conception "creation".
Yes, ALL of 'us' can recognize and see once again that Age is a liar nothing more.

[Age]

Humans weren't created, they just evolved. Unless you can prove otherwise, so far you haven't provided proof for any of your claims, ie. you're a liar and everyone knows it by now.

Age is a rock, and Age doesn't know it..yet, you'll not get through to the rock, unless you smash it with a shovel and watch it disappear.

One moment you are saying that it is not right or not nice to mock those with DIFFERENT VIEWS, but other moments you appear to LOVE joining "others" in the mocking of "others".

But each to their own.

Also, what is 'it', which you think or BELIEVE is NOT "getting through"?

"atla" CLAIMS some things are created but other things, like 'you', human beings, are NOT. This "got through" VERY CLEARLY and VERY EASILY.

[Age]

So, when 'you' TELL "another",

There is no other, except as belief, and that's the mess right there.

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'you' OBVIOUSLY have NOT YET NOTICED NOR RECOGNIZED that EVERY time I use the "other" or "another" word I put it double quotation marks to MEAN that they are NOT actual things.

ONCE AGAIN, if 'you', human beings, asked CLARIFYING QUESTIONS BEFORE 'you' JUMP to ASSUMPTIONS and CONCLUSIONS, then you would NOT be SO Wrong, SO OFTEN.

I also have forgotten how many times I have INFORMED 'you' that word 'you' means or refers to "another". So, each time 'you' use the 'you' word, you are REINFORCING the duality PERCEPTION that 'you' just can NOT seem 'let go of', COMPLETELY.

This mess was created by the believer, when they believed their name to be who they are, before that, they were no one...so yeah, the mess all started when your parents gave you a name.

But when parents give their new born baby a name, the baby does NOT believe 'that' name (and NOT "their name") to be who they are. This happens later on, and very commonly becomes a FIXED BELIEF in 'you', adult human beings. As can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVEN throughout this forum.

The mess being created by the BELIEVER I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH, and this is WHY I neither BELIEVE nor DISBELIEVE ANY thing.

And although you ACTUALLY WROTE that you STILL want to INSIST that I have BELIEFS. If you KNOW the mess was created by BELIEVERS, then WHY do you INSIST on HOLDING ONTO and MAINTAINING the BELIEFS, which you CLEARLY HAVE?

To HAVE and MAINTAIN BELIEFS while claiming to KNOW 'you' BELIEVERS create the mess seems like a VERY CONTRADICTORY thing to do. Do 'you' NOT agree?

There's no hope for anyone who clings to fictional made up knowledge about themselves, and frankly, that's the only good thing going on here.

[Age]

So, when 'you' CLAIM, "I know myself", and also CLAIM what you do here, then this MEANS that that "I" can recreate "itself", correct?

Now, will 'you' create "yourself"?

Besides the FACT that you have here, ONCE AGAIN, CONTRADICTED what you have previously written, the CLAIM that there is a "myself" is a CONTRADICTION in and of itself.

Who and/or what does the word 'my' refer to, and, who and/or what does the 'self' refer to, in the MISNOMER "myself"?

But but, oh my my does my but hurt...there could be no one that knows that they know.

There could be no one that knows CONTRADICTions are forming.

No thing can con a con.

Except that thee 'I' IS observing, and KNOWING, ALL of what is going on here.

Or, does the one known as "dontaskme' KNOW BETTER?

[Sculptor]

LOL Well my POINT here was COMPLETELY MISSED and LOST.

Seems to be a repeating phenomenon.

[Age]

Letting "others" 'get to you', will NEVER help you come across MORE CLEARLY and CORRECTLY.

Trust me, no one ever gets to me,

Are you ABSOLUTELY SURE?

but will you ever believe that.

Do you REALLY expect "others" to BELIEVE that absolutely NO human being EVER " gets to 'you' " is ACTUALLY True?

Seriously Age, I hope you don't ever speak the way you speak to people on this forum to their actual physical face, because if you did, some of them would literally beat you to a pulp within an inch of your life.

Being told thee ACTUALLY Truth about "yourselves" REALLY does seem to IRK 'you', human beings.

You can get away with it incognito on a forum hiding away behind a screen untouchable, you can say just about what ever you want to people, we're all cowards like that, it's easy to be a keyboard warrior, but unfortunatley, the real world is a rude awakening.

Grow up..


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I would speak the EXACT SAME way "face-to-face", as 'you', human beings, call it IF it was being recorded, so then I could EXPLAIN to the viewers EXACTLY WHY I said what I said, and EXPLAIN WHAT I ACTUALLY MEANT, which caused the "other" to quickly JUMPED to Wrong ASSUMPTIONS and CONCLUSIONS, just like 'you', people, do here in this forum.

[Age]

Letting "others" 'get to you', will NEVER help you come across MORE CLEARLY and CORRECTLY.

Is that why you like to provoke a reaction in people with your posts.

NO. I am CERTAINLY NOT wanting NOR trying to hinder ANY one express "them self" MORE CLEARLY and CORRECTLY.

I write in a way so that when 'you', posters, JUMP to an ASSUMPTION, you JUMP to the Wrong ASSUMPTION and CONCLUSION in regards to what I ACTUALLY SAID, and MEANT. I do this for the REASON I have EXPLAINED ALREADY.

That's basically what you said, you said I do what I do to provoke a reaction or somehting along those lines....

Yes, but what I SAID, but ACTUALLY MEANT, might be the EXACT OPPOSITE of what is ASSUMED and CONCLUDED.

ONLY through CLARIFICATION can what I ACTUALLY MEANT come to LIGHT and be KNOWN.

And the REASON this is a VERY STRONG MESSAGE I want to GET ACROSS is because once EACH of 'you', human beings, are NOT around ANY MORE to ask CLARIFYING QUESTIONS to, then just MAKING ASSUMPTIONS is just a COMPLETE and UTTER waste of time. As can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVEN by how 'you', current human beings, when this is be written, TRY TO decipher and grasp what was ACTUALLY MEANT in the words left behind by ALL of those that are LOOKED UP TO, and want to be followed, for WISDOM.

Grasping and obtaining the True and FULL meaning of what one ACTUALLY MEANS is hard enough when they are TALKING and/or WRITING, let alone 'trying to' ascertain when they "passed away".

Just LOOK AT how much MISINTERPRETATION that has ACTUALLY OCCURRED and is STILL ACTUALLY OCCURRING in the days when this is being written. And, do NOT FORGET that it is ALWAYS the "other" who does the MISINTERPRETING, without ever FULLY REALIZING just how much ACTUAL MISINTERPRETING is ACTUALLY GOING ON within "one's" OWN 'self'.

You're sick. You need putting down out of your misery.

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The amount of times you SWITCH, SWAP, and CHANGE your views can be hard to keep track of, but luckily they are WRITTEN DOWN;.

[Dontaskme]

The amount of times you SWITCH, SWAP, and CHANGE your views can be hard to keep track of, but luckily they are WRITTEN DOWN;.

Great, then you can always read back to yourself all of your provocations you deliberately post to people to get a reaction.... your motor mouth full of garbage knows no limits or boundaries.

You are a vile disgusting human being, you're just in denial about the fact, that's all. Just keep driving in those emotional nails into your misery self.

[Dontaskme]

LOL Well my POINT here was COMPLETELY MISSED and LOST.

Seems to be a repeating phenomenon.

Parrot face loves seeing others lose and miss the point, it's an excuse to continue the madness that is parrot faces real face.

[Age]

You ALLOWED a criticizer to ' get to 'you' ', which then allowed you to write some thing, which is CONTRADICTORY, in the hope that 'you' could 'get the "other" back'.

I'm sorry to hear you were abused as a child, and your only way at getting revenge, getting your own back at them is to do what you are doing now on this forum.

What do you PERCEIVE and ASSUME I am doing now, on this forum?

There's only one cure for child abuse, stop having them. It's quite simple, children are not our property.

LOL A typical response from an adult human being. INSTEAD of just LOOKING AT and CHANGING your OWN Wrong ways, just do ANY thing else.

What you said could be interpreted as saying and meaning is; Instead of me STOP abusing children I will instead just STOP having children.

Which OBVIOUSLY just prevents 'you' making and creating a few more children, to abuse. But this does NOT STOP you from abusing the rest of ALL the "other children" who currently exist and will come to exist.

Wild Animals do not have sex with other wild animals because they are thinking about having a baby, they do not say, hey lets make a baby before they indulge in their sexual activity which is just a program nature has evolved to replicate the species.

HOW EXACTLY are 'you', human beings, NOT 'wild animals'?

And, the reason WHY non human wild animals do NOT think about having a baby NOR saying what you said here is BECAUSE non human wild animals do NOT think NOR speak in human being's english language nor in human beings MANY other languages.

Also, do this have absolutely ANY thing to do with what we WERE talking about here?

I made the comment about how you ALLOWED someone to 'get to you', which then effected the way you responded, and now you are TALKING about animals creating babies.

The act is an innate instinct, the Animals have no prior knowledge that they are making babies. Only humans have that knowledge, and that makes humans dumber than wild animals.

So, to you, knowing more makes that one more "dumber" than "those" who do NOT know as much, correct?

I hope you find some healing Age, but it will not be found in what you are doing on this forum, because provoking people into reactions is not a clear way of seeing reality how it actually is.

Did I EVER use the word 'provoking'?

Also, could what you IMAGINE I am doing, for the REASON you IMAGINE I am doing it for, be DIFFERENT from what I am ACTUALLY DOING, and/or for the ACTUAL REASON OF WHY I am doing, what I AM DOING?

Or, do you just KNOW BETTER?

[Age]

There appears to be an apparent knowing here in this body mind mechanism known as DAM, and in a sense, this knowing is also being claimed within this body mind mechanism known as DAM.... but at the same time, this knowing as and through the body mind mechanism known as DAM ...Does Not... know HOW OR WHY OR WHO claims to know, except in this CONCEPTION....that's all I am, and have ever been writing about on this forum.

Okay. But saying, "within this body "mind" mechanism", is NOT helping you in coming to FULLY UNDERSTAND and KNOW who and what thee 'I' IS, EXACTLY, which is thee One and ONLY ACTUALLY KNOWER, which you talk about.

It may well be VERY EASY to UNDERSTAND and KNOW what the 'body' IS, EXACTLY, but what the 'mind' IS, EXACTLY, is some thing that needs a bit more of introspect to UNDERSTAND and KNOW. 'you', human beings, may well know the word and use that word quite frequently but as to UNDERSTANDING and KNOWING what the 'mind' IS, EXACTLY, 'you', human beings, in the days when this was written, still had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA, AT ALL.

Who or what conceived the first conceived thing, is the one question to all our answers. ?

The answer that ACTUALLY DOES and WILL RESOLVE ALL of your problems is the correct answer to the question, 'What is the solution to ALL of our problems?' That answer is VERY EASY and VERY SIMPLE to obtain, by the way. But, anyway, who or what conceived the first conceived thing can only be answered correctly, when you inform us of who and/or what the first conceived thing IS, which 'you' are conceiving, or thinking, of here.

I can NOT give you the correct answer to a question that I do NOT KNOW what you are referring to, EXACTLY?

BUT, I can give you the correct answer to ALL questions that I KNOW what you are referring to, EXACTLY.

Can you see how reality for a ''conceived thing'' is an illusion?

Is a human baby a 'conceived thing'?

If yes, then I can NOT see how Reality, Itself, is an illusion for this 'conceived thing'. Are you at all able to EXPLAIN and/or ELABORATE on this view and CLAIM of yours here?

What I found is that PROVIDING ACTUAL EXAMPLES helps tremendously is allowing "others" to better SEE and UNDERSTAND what 'it' is that one is 'trying to' say and explain.

The illusion is so real no doubt, but it's still only an illusion.

WHAT 'illusion' are you referring to here, EXACTLY?

I know you know all this already AGE, and that's why trying to show other people this illusory nature of self, is a messy job.

Even IF I did KNOW ALL THIS ALREADY, then this does NOT then instantly mean that it then 'logically follows' that this is the reason WHY 'trying to' show "other people" this illusory nature of 'self' is a "messy job".

The reason WHY SHOWING and REVEALING ALL-THERE-IS, is partly because of HOW the human brain works and WHY it works the way that it does. But, when HOW the Mind and the brain ACTUALLY WORK, then ALL-OF-THIS comes to light, is revealed, and enlightens those who are still in the dark.

To me, although the little 'self' is just an 'act', an 'actor/ess', and 'character' on the stage, known as Life, and so could also be known as just an 'illusion', there is a 'Self', which is True, and it is this One and ONLY 'Self', who is the SEER and KNOWER, who is able to SEE and KNOW ALL, including what IS 'illusion' and 'deception' from what IS REAL and True.

I don't care what reactions I get to my writing here on this forum, I'm loving the insane asylum that is humanity ..what choice do I have except to kill myself.

At the end of the day, no human being has ever been alive before,

A human body, which is breathing, pumping blood, and thinking, is sometimes referred to as 'being alive'. So, you might find some DISAGREEMENT here, correct?

no one knows what the fuck they are doing here,

You do AGREE that 'you' can speak for 'you' correct?

But when 'you' 'try to' PROJECT 'you', onto "others", then will be WRONG, sometimes, correct?

Or, do you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that "NO one knows what the fuck they are doing here"?

they make it all up as they go along, they have no other choice.

BECAUSE 'you', "dontaskme", 'make it ALL up', as you go along, this does NOT necessarily mean that EVERY one "else", or even ANY one "else", does this as well.

Or, AGAIN, do you ACTUALLY BELIEVE what you CLAIM here is ABSOLUTELY True?

I'm sorry to hear you are hurting.

What EXACTLY in what I have said MADE you JUMP to this ASSUMPTION and CONCLUSION, you have made and JUMPED to here?

Just think, if your parents had not had sex at the particular time they did, that resulted in your conception, you wouldn't have been here now, having to feel the desperate need to write all this meaningless jargon that obviously pains you trying to get others to see the truth the way you do.

I'm sorry you have to go through this...genuinely, I am sorry for you, if only you could have been left alone as non-existent, but no, here you are having to do this now...what a life it must be for you, trying to understand yourself as and through your intended provocation that brings about the reactions of others.

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Well that is a couple of VERY TWISTED VERSIONS of what is ACTUALLY HAPPENING and OCCURRING here.

But, 'you' are absolutely FREE to SEE absolutely ANY thing ANY way that you WANT TO.

[Age]

When you tell everyone you can about a thing you believe, and everyone you tell says you are wrong or deluded.

What is the ACTUAL word that is MISSED here?

And who were you referring this to EXACTLY?

When the whole world thinks you are mad....

The, so called, "whole world" thought the one/s who said the earth is NOT flat and that the sun does NOT revolve around the earth were mad.

But we KNOW how that TURNED OUT, correct?

There are two options.
Either accept that you are mad and enjoy it.
Or two accept you are mad and change.

Are they the ONLY "two options", to you, that exist in the WHOLE of the Universe?

[Age]

Humans weren't created, they just evolved.

So, if the one known as "atla" here is a 'human', then 'it' was NOT created by the sperm of the male gendered human body coming together with the egg of the female gendered human body, but just 'evolved'.

Now, if you want to call ALL created things as just evolved, then so be it. This STILL fits in with 'what' works PERFECTLY.

You will just have to accept that if you have had a baby then you did NOT create 'it' with someone "else". That baby just evolved from when 'you' and "another" came together.

It ALL STILL works PERFECTLY, for me.

Unless you can prove otherwise, so far you haven't provided proof for any of your claims, ie. you're a liar and everyone knows it by now.

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And what you BELIEVE is true SHINES VERY BRIGHTLY for ALL of 'us' to RECOGNIZE and SEE.

As expected, no proof for anything here, just calling conception "creation".
Yes, ALL of 'us' can recognize and see once again that Age is a liar nothing more.

If that is what EVERY one of 'you' can recognize and see, then that is PERFECTLY FINE and OKAY with 'me'.

[Age]

LOL Well my POINT here was COMPLETELY MISSED and LOST.

Seems to be a repeating phenomenon.

YES IT DOES.

Do you have an EXPLANATION for WHY?