The character posing as AGE makes a claim … but is it FACT?

[Age]

Well maybe I think the same thing about you, that's why I act this way with you.

Exactly, we project to other what we don't like about ourself, because it's distasteful to our natural state, which is nothing, it's not rocket science.

I'm not projecting things about myself on you. The difference between us is that you really are crazy, and as such yet another instrument of humanity's coming destruction. Not as crazy as Age though, and you might have even improved slightly in the last few years.

Absolutely NO one is as CRAZY as 'I' am. And, this is EXACTLY the way that 'I' want it to be.

[Dontaskme]

So, when 'you' CLAIM, "I know myself", and also CLAIM what you do here, then this MEANS that that "I" can recreate "itself", correct?

Now, will 'you' create "yourself"?

Besides the FACT that you have here, ONCE AGAIN, CONTRADICTED what you have previously written, the CLAIM that there is a "myself" is a CONTRADICTION in and of itself.

Who and/or what does the word 'my' refer to, and, who and/or what does the 'self' refer to, in the MISNOMER "myself"?

But but, oh my my does my but hurt...there could be no one that knows that they know.

There could be no one that knows CONTRADICTions are forming.

No thing can con a con.

[Age]

Just because some one KNOWS some 'thing', then there is NO law, which states that that one HAS to recreate that 'thing' just to satisfy the one known as "dontaskme" here.

It's not 'a someone' who knows something. A 'someone' is known, by the only knowing there is, you are that knowing that cannot be known.

LOL BUT 'you', "dontaskme", just SAID, VERY CLEARLY, that the 'knowing' that cannot be known is you. 'you' just STATED that, "you are the knowing that cannot be known".

The CONTRADICTION is VERY CLEAR and OBVIOUS here.

Knowledge of yourself is impossible, knowledge of self is an illusion,

BUT it was YOU who STATED a few posts up that "I know myself".

The reason WHY 'you' CONTRADICT so often, is ALREADY KNOWN. BUT, because you BELIEVE you do NOT CONTRADICT, there is NOTHING here for 'you' to LOOK AT, DISCUSS, and IMPROVE.

if it were possible to know yourself you would have to split yourself in two into knower and known, subject and object, which is impossible, therefore knowing is one without a second, an illusion appearing to be real, it is nothing emerging as something.

It was 'you', "dontaskme", who CLEARLY WROTE; "Only I know myself, and that's my power."

You ALLOWED a criticizer to ' get to 'you' ', which then allowed you to write some thing, which is CONTRADICTORY, in the hope that 'you' could 'get the "other" back'.

Letting "others" 'get to you', will NEVER help you come across MORE CLEARLY and CORRECTLY.

Comprehend, that's all that is being written here.

[Age]

The difference between us is that you really are crazy, and as such yet another instrument of humanity's coming destruction. Not as crazy as Age though, and you might have even improved slightly in the last few years.

Oh ok, thanks for telling me. Noted.

Lets hope the destruction is very near and comes sooner rather than later, no point in prolonging the agony of living any longer. But maybe just prolong the inevitable just a little bit longer, just enough, which is never enough so I get to have one last orgasm, and fuck the consequences as long as I have my little piece of pleasure.

Now I'm not REALLY judging you, I think humanity was probably always doomed from the start, so I gave up trying to save it long ago, why fight the inevitable.

WHAT, and WHERE, is the PROOF that "the inevitable" for 'humanity', here?

On second thought, maybe all these idiots don't deserve to be saved anyway. So now I'm just being an asshole to assholes for fun.

[Dontaskme]

Letting "others" 'get to you', will NEVER help you come across MORE CLEARLY and CORRECTLY.

Trust me, no one ever gets to me, but will you ever believe that.

Seriously Age, I hope you don't ever speak the way you speak to people on this forum to their actual physical face, because if you did, some of them would literally beat you to a pulp within an inch of your life.

You can get away with it incognito on a forum hiding away behind a screen untouchable, you can say just about what ever you want to people, we're all cowards like that, it's easy to be a keyboard warrior, but unfortunatley, the real world is a rude awakening.

Grow up..


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[Dontaskme]

Letting "others" 'get to you', will NEVER help you come across MORE CLEARLY and CORRECTLY.

Is that why you like to provoke a reaction in people with your posts. That's basically what you said, you said I do what I do to provoke a reaction or somehting along those lines....

You're sick. You need putting down out of your misery.

[Dontaskme]

You ALLOWED a criticizer to ' get to 'you' ', which then allowed you to write some thing, which is CONTRADICTORY, in the hope that 'you' could 'get the "other" back'.

I'm sorry to hear you were abused as a child, and your only way at getting revenge, getting your own back at them is to do what you are doing now on this forum.


There's only one cure for child abuse, stop having them. It's quite simple, children are not our property.

Wild Animals do not have sex with other wild animals because they are thinking about having a baby, they do not say, hey lets make a baby before they indulge in their sexual activity which is just a program nature has evolved to replicate the species. The act is an innate instinct, the Animals have no prior knowledge that they are making babies. Only humans have that knowledge, and that makes humans dumber than wild animals.

I hope you find some healing Age, but it will not be found in what you are doing on this forum, because provoking people into reactions is not a clear way of seeing reality how it actually is.

[Age]

Remember you BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY that there is NO KNOWER, so you will ONLY "find" and SEE 'that' what CONFIRMS this BIASES of YOURS.

There appears to be an apparent knowing here in this body mind mechanism known as DAM, and in a sense, this knowing is also being claimed within this body mind mechanism known as DAM.... but at the same time, this knowing as and through the body mind mechanism known as DAM ...Does Not... know HOW OR WHY OR WHO claims to know, except in this CONCEPTION....that's all I am, and have ever been writing about on this forum.

Okay. But saying, "within this body "mind" mechanism", is NOT helping you in coming to FULLY UNDERSTAND and KNOW who and what thee 'I' IS, EXACTLY, which is thee One and ONLY ACTUALLY KNOWER, which you talk about.

It may well be VERY EASY to UNDERSTAND and KNOW what the 'body' IS, EXACTLY, but what the 'mind' IS, EXACTLY, is some thing that needs a bit more of introspect to UNDERSTAND and KNOW. 'you', human beings, may well know the word and use that word quite frequently but as to UNDERSTANDING and KNOWING what the 'mind' IS, EXACTLY, 'you', human beings, in the days when this was written, still had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA, AT ALL.

Who or what conceived the first conceived thing, is the one question to all our answers. ?

The answer that ACTUALLY DOES and WILL RESOLVE ALL of your problems is the correct answer to the question, 'What is the solution to ALL of our problems?' That answer is VERY EASY and VERY SIMPLE to obtain, by the way. But, anyway, who or what conceived the first conceived thing can only be answered correctly, when you inform us of who and/or what the first conceived thing IS, which 'you' are conceiving, or thinking, of here.

I can NOT give you the correct answer to a question that I do NOT KNOW what you are referring to, EXACTLY?

BUT, I can give you the correct answer to ALL questions that I KNOW what you are referring to, EXACTLY.

Can you see how reality for a ''conceived thing'' is an illusion?

Is a human baby a 'conceived thing'?

If yes, then I can NOT see how Reality, Itself, is an illusion for this 'conceived thing'. Are you at all able to EXPLAIN and/or ELABORATE on this view and CLAIM of yours here?

What I found is that PROVIDING ACTUAL EXAMPLES helps tremendously is allowing "others" to better SEE and UNDERSTAND what 'it' is that one is 'trying to' say and explain.

The illusion is so real no doubt, but it's still only an illusion.

WHAT 'illusion' are you referring to here, EXACTLY?

I know you know all this already AGE, and that's why trying to show other people this illusory nature of self, is a messy job.

Even IF I did KNOW ALL THIS ALREADY, then this does NOT then instantly mean that it then 'logically follows' that this is the reason WHY 'trying to' show "other people" this illusory nature of 'self' is a "messy job".

The reason WHY SHOWING and REVEALING ALL-THERE-IS, is partly because of HOW the human brain works and WHY it works the way that it does. But, when HOW the Mind and the brain ACTUALLY WORK, then ALL-OF-THIS comes to light, is revealed, and enlightens those who are still in the dark.

To me, although the little 'self' is just an 'act', an 'actor/ess', and 'character' on the stage, known as Life, and so could also be known as just an 'illusion', there is a 'Self', which is True, and it is this One and ONLY 'Self', who is the SEER and KNOWER, who is able to SEE and KNOW ALL, including what IS 'illusion' and 'deception' from what IS REAL and True.

I don't care what reactions I get to my writing here on this forum, I'm loving the insane asylum that is humanity ..what choice do I have except to kill myself.

At the end of the day, no human being has ever been alive before,

A human body, which is breathing, pumping blood, and thinking, is sometimes referred to as 'being alive'. So, you might find some DISAGREEMENT here, correct?

no one knows what the fuck they are doing here,

You do AGREE that 'you' can speak for 'you' correct?

But when 'you' 'try to' PROJECT 'you', onto "others", then will be WRONG, sometimes, correct?

Or, do you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that "NO one knows what the fuck they are doing here"?

they make it all up as they go along, they have no other choice.

BECAUSE 'you', "dontaskme", 'make it ALL up', as you go along, this does NOT necessarily mean that EVERY one "else", or even ANY one "else", does this as well.

Or, AGAIN, do you ACTUALLY BELIEVE what you CLAIM here is ABSOLUTELY True?

[Dontaskme]

Remember you BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY that there is NO KNOWER, so you will ONLY "find" and SEE 'that' what CONFIRMS this BIASES of YOURS.

There appears to be an apparent knowing here in this body mind mechanism known as DAM, and in a sense, this knowing is also being claimed within this body mind mechanism known as DAM.... but at the same time, this knowing as and through the body mind mechanism known as DAM ...Does Not... know HOW OR WHY OR WHO claims to know, except in this CONCEPTION....that's all I am, and have ever been writing about on this forum.

Okay. But saying, "within this body "mind" mechanism", is NOT helping you in coming to FULLY UNDERSTAND and KNOW who and what thee 'I' IS, EXACTLY, which is thee One and ONLY ACTUALLY KNOWER, which you talk about.

It may well be VERY EASY to UNDERSTAND and KNOW what the 'body' IS, EXACTLY, but what the 'mind' IS, EXACTLY, is some thing that needs a bit more of introspect to UNDERSTAND and KNOW. 'you', human beings, may well know the word and use that word quite frequently but as to UNDERSTANDING and KNOWING what the 'mind' IS, EXACTLY, 'you', human beings, in the days when this was written, still had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA, AT ALL.

Who or what conceived the first conceived thing, is the one question to all our answers. ?

The answer that ACTUALLY DOES and WILL RESOLVE ALL of your problems is the correct answer to the question, 'What is the solution to ALL of our problems?' That answer is VERY EASY and VERY SIMPLE to obtain, by the way. But, anyway, who or what conceived the first conceived thing can only be answered correctly, when you inform us of who and/or what the first conceived thing IS, which 'you' are conceiving, or thinking, of here.

I can NOT give you the correct answer to a question that I do NOT KNOW what you are referring to, EXACTLY?

BUT, I can give you the correct answer to ALL questions that I KNOW what you are referring to, EXACTLY.

Can you see how reality for a ''conceived thing'' is an illusion?

Is a human baby a 'conceived thing'?

If yes, then I can NOT see how Reality, Itself, is an illusion for this 'conceived thing'. Are you at all able to EXPLAIN and/or ELABORATE on this view and CLAIM of yours here?

What I found is that PROVIDING ACTUAL EXAMPLES helps tremendously is allowing "others" to better SEE and UNDERSTAND what 'it' is that one is 'trying to' say and explain.

The illusion is so real no doubt, but it's still only an illusion.

WHAT 'illusion' are you referring to here, EXACTLY?

I know you know all this already AGE, and that's why trying to show other people this illusory nature of self, is a messy job.

Even IF I did KNOW ALL THIS ALREADY, then this does NOT then instantly mean that it then 'logically follows' that this is the reason WHY 'trying to' show "other people" this illusory nature of 'self' is a "messy job".

The reason WHY SHOWING and REVEALING ALL-THERE-IS, is partly because of HOW the human brain works and WHY it works the way that it does. But, when HOW the Mind and the brain ACTUALLY WORK, then ALL-OF-THIS comes to light, is revealed, and enlightens those who are still in the dark.

To me, although the little 'self' is just an 'act', an 'actor/ess', and 'character' on the stage, known as Life, and so could also be known as just an 'illusion', there is a 'Self', which is True, and it is this One and ONLY 'Self', who is the SEER and KNOWER, who is able to SEE and KNOW ALL, including what IS 'illusion' and 'deception' from what IS REAL and True.

I don't care what reactions I get to my writing here on this forum, I'm loving the insane asylum that is humanity ..what choice do I have except to kill myself.

At the end of the day, no human being has ever been alive before,

A human body, which is breathing, pumping blood, and thinking, is sometimes referred to as 'being alive'. So, you might find some DISAGREEMENT here, correct?

no one knows what the fuck they are doing here,

You do AGREE that 'you' can speak for 'you' correct?

But when 'you' 'try to' PROJECT 'you', onto "others", then will be WRONG, sometimes, correct?

Or, do you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that "NO one knows what the fuck they are doing here"?

they make it all up as they go along, they have no other choice.

BECAUSE 'you', "dontaskme", 'make it ALL up', as you go along, this does NOT necessarily mean that EVERY one "else", or even ANY one "else", does this as well.

Or, AGAIN, do you ACTUALLY BELIEVE what you CLAIM here is ABSOLUTELY True?

I'm sorry to hear you are hurting.

Just think, if your parents had not had sex at the particular time they did, that resulted in your conception, you wouldn't have been here now, having to feel the desperate need to write all this meaningless jargon that obviously pains you trying to get others to see the truth the way you do.

I'm sorry you have to go through this...genuinely, I am sorry for you, if only you could have been left alone as non-existent, but no, here you are having to do this now...what a life it must be for you, trying to understand yourself as and through your intended provocation that brings about the reactions of others.

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[Sculptor]

When you tell everyone you can about a thing you believe, and everyone you tell says you are wrong or deluded.
When the whole world thinks you are mad....
There are two options.
Either accept that you are mad and enjoy it.
Or two accept you are mad and change.

[Dontaskme]

When you tell everyone you can about a thing you believe, and everyone you tell says you are wrong or deluded.
When the whole world thinks you are mad....
There are two options.
Either accept that you are mad and enjoy it.
Or two accept you are mad and change.

Very true.

[Age]

Now I'm not REALLY judging you, I think humanity was probably always doomed from the start, so I gave up trying to save it long ago, why fight the inevitable. On second thought, maybe all these idiots don't deserve to be saved anyway. So now I'm just being an asshole to assholes for fun.

I agree with you on every point.

The only good place, is no place, but that's just my opinion.

Religious freaks think the good place is somewhere you go to when you have Jesus close to your heart, and that if you don't worship Jesus, then you will go to hell.

Only some religious people think this, and only a very small minority of them at that.

Also, and by the way, there is a way to describe what you said here in a way that PROVES that this is True, and an IRREFUTABLE Truth at that. But, we are still a LONG WAY from getting there.

They believe this without it ever occurring to them that no one actually goes to hell, hell is already where they are, every time they open their mouth claiming they know God.

And do you BELIEVE this without it ever occurring to you you might be wrong as well.

Religious people are so dumb because they refuse to look at the reality of sentient life.

Do you KNOW that 'you' are a religious person as well?

So they make up this Jesus character in the hope and faith it will make the inevitable and unavoidable pain and suffering that is sentient life go away, it's a sick practice and dangerous belief.

But there is NO actual pain and suffering in Life, Itself. But one has to KNOW Thy True Self, to FULLY understand AND know this.

There is, however, pain just felt within human bodies, from the nerve endings of the body, and ONLY children suffer, from the way they are mistreated by 'you', adult human beings. And, if 'you', adult human beings, claim to be "suffering", from ANY thing other than an enduring pain from nerve endings, then this is ONLY because 'you' have NOT YET matured and grown up.

They also place all the burden of pain and suffering onto this poor made up character they call Jesus, claiming he died, just so they wouldn't have to, and be spared the pain and suffering...it's total BS...

Has it EVER occurred to you, that either, or both, of 'you' could just be MISINTERPRETING things here?

Or, is this just NOT a possibility in "dontaskme's" 'world'?

the delusion is an insult to human intelligence,

What, EXACTLY, is the delusion here?

Do not forget that ALL OF THIS is just an illusion, to you.

I'm pretty sure there is some intelligence to be found somewhere in this universe, but I'm not going to hold my breath it's human.

Human beings do NOT 'have' "an intelligence", just like human beings do NOT 'have' "a mind". BUT, there is 'Intelligence' within human beings, just like there is a 'Mind' within human beings.

And, by the way Intelligence comes from thee (Truly OPEN) Mind.

But do NOT take 'my' word for this.

[Age]

Errr, hello!

To be able to state, claim...'' thee Mind and the brain ALREADY EXISTS'' ..... implies a knower.

If this belief there is a known knower, is true, then this known knower would know how to recreate what it knows. Comprehend?

NOT YET.

Does this same "logic" apply, and follow, if and when one claims that the earth and sun ALREADY EXISTS?

Stop deviating away from the original point ...

OKAY. How about 'you' then bring 'us' back to the ORIGINAL POINT.

with more questions like in the following bamboozling attempt to info bomb people >

I was just attempting to CLEAR UP some of the CONFLICTING and ILLOGICAL views of yours that appeared to me.

If you do NOT want to CLEAR UP what I was just POINTING OUT and MAKING CLEAR, then so be it. You are absolutely FREE to do whatever you want to do.

Does stating, claiming, thee earth and the sun ALREADY EXISTS', imply a knower, as well?

If yes, then, if this known knower is true, then does this also mean, and follow, that this known knower would know how to recreate what it knows, that is; thee earth and sun?

If yes, then HOW could they recreate that?

But if no, then WHY NOT?

Also, what you BELIEVE here STANDS OUT and SHINES BRIGHTLY. If there is NO known knower, then there could be NO one who KNOWS that there is NO known knower.

That there is NO known knower includes 'you' with your CLAIM that there is NO known knower.

Just adress the original point...which was >
To be able to state, claim...'' thee Mind and the brain ALREADY EXISTS'' ..... implies a knower.

If this belief there is a known knower, is true, then this known knower would know how to recreate what it knows


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What is there to "address" here, besides me REMINDING you that I do NOT have ANY belief like this one here?

If this is what you BELIEVE is true, then so be it. You are absolutely FREE to BELIEVE whatever you want to BELIEVE.

By the way, I ALREADY addressed your original point ABOVE, as can be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVEN True.

Remember, you WANT to just COMPLETELY and UTTERLY IGNORE it ALL.

[Age]

Also, what you BELIEVE here STANDS OUT and SHINES BRIGHTLY. If there is NO known knower, then there could be NO one who KNOWS that there is NO known knower.

That there is NO known knower includes 'you' with your CLAIM that there is NO known knower.

''there could be NO one who KNOWS that there is NO known knower.'' So you've even said it yourself.

I was ONLY copying what you CLAIM, and SHOWING the ILLOGICAL and IRRATIONAL nature of that.

Sometimes you CLAIM that "you know yourself", and then at other times you CLAIM "there is NO one who could know".

I'll repeat it for you...'you' is known, but also, there could be NO one who knows this 'you' is known.

OK?

So, who or what KNOWS 'you' is known?

You can NOT 'logically' and 'rationally' CLAIM that, " 'you' is known ", but then ALSO CONTRADICTORY CLAIM that, " there is NO one who knows 'you' is known ".

How do 'you' KNOW " 'you' is known " IF there is NO one who could know this?

If, as you CLAIM, ' you know "yourself", then SURELY 'you' would KNOW who this 'you' IS who KNOWS that " 'you' is known ", correct?

[Age]

And as I was SAYING and had ALREADY POINTED OUT to 'you', 'you' have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE NOR IDEA in regards to what I was ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.

Does it ever occur to you that no one really fucking cares about what you are ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT

LOL Well my POINT here was COMPLETELY MISSED and LOST.

LOL

The very FACT that 'you', people, here in this forum posting when I am writing, do NOT ACTUALLY KNOW what I have been TALKING ABOUT is part of my REASON for USING 'you'. This is SO MY ACTUAL MESSAGE will become FAR CLEARER and make FAR MORE SENSE to those WHEN I ACTUALLY START EXPLAINING my views.

In other words I have been writing in a way so that ONLY some can Truly UNDERSTAND what I have been ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.

Also, the question you asked me here could be applied to EVERY one writing in this forum correct?

Furthermore, if you took what I said in that quote in CONTEXT of WHY I said that to the ACTUAL person I said it to, then maybe you would NOT have written what you did here.

BECAUSE I WANT you posters to NOT SHOW ANY INTEREST AT ALL in what I write, and just JUMP to ASSUMPTIONS and CONCLUSIONS. That way I can SHOW and PROVE just HOW SIMPLE and EASY it is for thee Mind to CONTROL and MANIPULATE each and EVERY human brain to do what thee Mind ACTUALLY WANTS.

Does it ever occur to you that maybe they think the same way, in that they too think that 'you' the one who goes by the self appointed name of AGE also has ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE NOR IDEA in regards to what they are ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.

If, and WHEN, my writings are LOOKED BACK UPON, then what will be CLEARLY SEEN is the amount of times I have asked CLARIFYING QUESTIONS to "others", to gain a BETTER INSIGHT into "their" views, BELIEFS, and CLAIMS, compared to the amount of times I have been asked CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, for the EXACT SAME REASON.

Without CLARIFYING I would say I have asked FAR MORE Truly OPEN CLARIFYING QUESTIONS than ALL of 'you' have asked 'me'.

If I, supposedly, have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE NOR IDEA in regards to what "others" are ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT, then it is NOT from a LACK of TRYING.

POT / Kettle ...pot kettle.

Keep being insane, there is nothing else to be around here, and note, it's ok to be this way, there is nothing wrong with you, because you don't exist, you only believe you do...oh wait!

WHY do you TURN to this way of 'thinking' and REPLYING when you are CHALLENGED and QUESTIONED in regards to YOUR CLAIMS.