The character posing as AGE makes a claim … but is it FACT?

[Dontaskme]

Remember you BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY that there is NO KNOWER, so you will ONLY "find" and SEE 'that' what CONFIRMS this BIASES of YOURS.

There appears to be an apparent knowing here in this body mind mechanism known as DAM, and in a sense, this knowing is also being claimed within this body mind mechanism known as DAM.... but at the same time, this knowing as and through the body mind mechanism known as DAM ...Does Not... know HOW OR WHY OR WHO claims to know, except in this CONCEPTION....that's all I am, and have ever been writing about on this forum.

Who or what conceived the first conceived thing, is the one question to all our answers. ?

Can you see how reality for a ''conceived thing'' is an illusion? The illusion is so real no doubt, but it's still only an illusion.

I know you know all this already AGE, and that's why trying to show other people this illusory nature of self, is a messy job.

I don't care what reactions I get to my writing here on this forum, I'm loving the insane asylum that is humanity ..what choice do I have except to kill myself.

At the end of the day, no human being has ever been alive before, no one knows what the fuck they are doing here, they make it all up as they go along, they have no other choice.

[Age]

Also, thee Mind and the brain ALREADY EXISTS.

Errr, hello!

To be able to state, claim...'' thee Mind and the brain ALREADY EXISTS'' ..... implies a knower.

If this belief there is a known knower, is true, then this known knower would know how to recreate what it knows. Comprehend?

NOT YET.

Does this same "logic" apply, and follow, if and when one claims that the earth and sun ALREADY EXISTS?

Does stating, claiming, thee earth and the sun ALREADY EXISTS', imply a knower, as well?

If yes, then, if this known knower is true, then does this also mean, and follow, that this known knower would know how to recreate what it knows, that is; thee earth and sun?

If yes, then HOW could they recreate that?

But if no, then WHY NOT?

Also, what you BELIEVE here STANDS OUT and SHINES BRIGHTLY. If there is NO known knower, then there could be NO one who KNOWS that there is NO known knower.

That there is NO known knower includes 'you' with your CLAIM that there is NO known knower.

[Dontaskme]

Now I'm not REALLY judging you, I think humanity was probably always doomed from the start, so I gave up trying to save it long ago, why fight the inevitable. On second thought, maybe all these idiots don't deserve to be saved anyway. So now I'm just being an asshole to assholes for fun.

I agree with you on every point.

The only good place, is no place, but that's just my opinion.

Religious freaks think the good place is somewhere you go to when you have Jesus close to your heart, and that if you don't worship Jesus, then you will go to hell. They believe this without it ever occurring to them that no one actually goes to hell, hell is already where they are, every time they open their mouth claiming they know God. Religious people are so dumb because they refuse to look at the reality of sentient life. So they make up this Jesus character in the hope and faith it will make the inevitable and unavoidable pain and suffering that is sentient life go away, it's a sick practice and dangerous belief. They also place all the burden of pain and suffering onto this poor made up character they call Jesus, claiming he died, just so they wouldn't have to, and be spared the pain and suffering...it's total BS...the delusion is an insult to human intelligence, I'm pretty sure there is some intelligence to be found somewhere in this universe, but I'm not going to hold my breath it's human.

[Age]

No, I don't. Link it or copy it where someone else has already proved it.

'Me': It is an IRREFUTABLE FACT that creation AND evolution play an equal part in what is known as Life, Itself.

"atla": I know that's what you believe, yet you couldn't prove the irrefutable fact of creation.

"Someone
else": So which parts of creation are you doubting so deeply that requires proof?

The part that you live in a society created by humans. The house you live in, the roads you drive on, the books you read, the internet you use - it's all created.

Again you lie and show no proof.

What does the word 'lie' even mean or refer to, to 'you', "atla"?

You appear to have a VERY DIFFERENT understanding of the word 'lie' than I have previously observed among 'you', human beings.

That's just "creation" by humans, with nothing more going on as far as we can tell.

And as I was SAYING and had ALREADY POINTED OUT to 'you', 'you' have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE NOR IDEA in regards to what I was ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.

Anyway, how do you think or envision human beings were created, just like absolutely EVERY thing else was created, except, OF COURSE, besides thee One and ONLY Universe, Itself?

And if to 'you' lot there is "NOTHING MORE going on, as far as you can tell", then this is EVIDENCE that 'you' are NOT LOOKING very wide nor far afield.

[Dontaskme]

Also, thee Mind and the brain ALREADY EXISTS.

Errr, hello!

To be able to state, claim...'' thee Mind and the brain ALREADY EXISTS'' ..... implies a knower.

If this belief there is a known knower, is true, then this known knower would know how to recreate what it knows. Comprehend?

NOT YET.

Does this same "logic" apply, and follow, if and when one claims that the earth and sun ALREADY EXISTS?

Stop deviating away from the original point ...with more questions like in the following bamboozling attempt to info bomb people >

Does stating, claiming, thee earth and the sun ALREADY EXISTS', imply a knower, as well?

If yes, then, if this known knower is true, then does this also mean, and follow, that this known knower would know how to recreate what it knows, that is; thee earth and sun?

If yes, then HOW could they recreate that?

But if no, then WHY NOT?

Also, what you BELIEVE here STANDS OUT and SHINES BRIGHTLY. If there is NO known knower, then there could be NO one who KNOWS that there is NO known knower.

That there is NO known knower includes 'you' with your CLAIM that there is NO known knower.

Just adress the original point...which was >
To be able to state, claim...'' thee Mind and the brain ALREADY EXISTS'' ..... implies a knower.

If this belief there is a known knower, is true, then this known knower would know how to recreate what it knows


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[Dontaskme]

Also, what you BELIEVE here STANDS OUT and SHINES BRIGHTLY. If there is NO known knower, then there could be NO one who KNOWS that there is NO known knower.

That there is NO known knower includes 'you' with your CLAIM that there is NO known knower.

''there could be NO one who KNOWS that there is NO known knower.'' So you've even said it yourself.

I'll repeat it for you...'you' is known, but also, there could be NO one who knows this 'you' is known.

OK?

[Dontaskme]

And as I was SAYING and had ALREADY POINTED OUT to 'you', 'you' have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE NOR IDEA in regards to what I was ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.

Does it ever occur to you that no one really fucking cares about what you are ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT

Does it ever occur to you that maybe they think the same way, in that they too think that 'you' the one who goes by the self appointed name of AGE also has ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE NOR IDEA in regards to what they are ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.

POT / Kettle ...pot kettle.

Keep being insane, there is nothing else to be around here, and note, it's ok to be this way, there is nothing wrong with you, because you don't exist, you only believe you do...oh wait!

[Atla]

'Me': It is an IRREFUTABLE FACT that creation AND evolution play an equal part in what is known as Life, Itself.

"atla": I know that's what you believe, yet you couldn't prove the irrefutable fact of creation.

"Someone
else": So which parts of creation are you doubting so deeply that requires proof?

The part that you live in a society created by humans. The house you live in, the roads you drive on, the books you read, the internet you use - it's all created.

Again you lie and show no proof.

What does the word 'lie' even mean or refer to, to 'you', "atla"?

You appear to have a VERY DIFFERENT understanding of the word 'lie' than I have previously observed among 'you', human beings.

That's just "creation" by humans, with nothing more going on as far as we can tell.

And as I was SAYING and had ALREADY POINTED OUT to 'you', 'you' have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE NOR IDEA in regards to what I was ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.

Anyway, how do you think or envision human beings were created, just like absolutely EVERY thing else was created, except, OF COURSE, besides thee One and ONLY Universe, Itself?

And if to 'you' lot there is "NOTHING MORE going on, as far as you can tell", then this is EVIDENCE that 'you' are NOT LOOKING very wide nor far afield.

Humans weren't created, they just evolved. Unless you can prove otherwise, so far you haven't provided proof for any of your claims, ie. you're a liar and everyone knows it by now.

[Age]

You say this like it is meant to be a shame to be "a mess". Is it shameful to 'you', human beings, in the days when this was written, to be "a mess"?

I never mentioned the word 'shame'

I KNOW, and that is WHY I used the 'like it ...' words.

Are you ashamed of the word ''mess''

NO. Do you think there is ANY thing to be ashamed about in regards to just words, themselves?

Life is a messy business. Denial is futile. Including the jumbled up words that come out of peoples mouths, their ideas can be perceived as being messy.

So, when 'you' TELL "another", "you are such a mess", what does this actually mean or refer to, especially considering the FACT that to you Life, Itself, is just a "messy business", anyway?

The proof is obvious,

But, to me, Life is JUST, SIMPLE, and EASY. AND, the PROOF is OBVIOUS.

So, which one is Right?

when two people argue, when they insist on sharing with other people their words and ideas about what and how they perceive and interpret their world views to be, and share that view with others, who then just say they are wrong.

HOW could they even be 'wrong', to then say that they are wrong?

I think you are MISSING that just sharing WHAT and HOW one perceives, and interprets, their world views to be can NOT be 'wrong' in anyway whatsoever. If, however, one wants to CLAIM 'that' what they have perceived can NOT be wrong, then they can CERTAINLY BE Wrong, and VERY Wrong at that.

So the one who believes others are wrong, is when words shared between two people can get messy.

ONCE AGAIN, here is ANOTHER EXAMPLE of WHY it is MUCH BETTER to NEVER 'believe' absolutely ANY thing AT ALL.

if, and when, 'you', human beings, STOP BELIEVING, then 'you', and the 'world' and 'life' that 'you' create for "yourselves" will STOP being SO MESSY as 'you' and 'your life' IS, in the days when this is being written.

It's not shaming, shaming is when people who just happen to choose to think differently that is deemed opposite to the generally accepted normal or status quo, are then told they are not fit for anything other than to be locked away in some secure mental prison for nut-jobs.. all because they just happen to have their own unique way of looking at a reality, they didn't even choose to be in.

So, are you now claiming that when you tell "another", "you are such a mess", then you are NOT 'trying to' ridicule nor put that one down at all, just because they have a DIFFERENT view than you do, correct?

If yes, then you are just saying, "you are such a mess", EXACTLY like "you are such a mess", "dontaskme", correct?

[Dontaskme]

Humans weren't created, they just evolved. Unless you can prove otherwise, so far you haven't provided proof for any of your claims, ie. you're a liar and everyone knows it by now.

Age is a rock, and Age doesn't know it..yet, you'll not get through to the rock, unless you smash it with a shovel and watch it disappear.

[Age]

You may be crazy with DSM-5 issues, but then again Terrapin is a seriously incompetent, ignorant fucker, so it's about even.

Well of course you are entitled to your assumption, opinion or whatever, you can believe what you like about my character, but your judgement doesn't make it true. Only I know myself, and that's my power.

But you CLAIM that there is NO knower. Therefore, there could NOT be ANY knower of "myself", nor even 'self', for that matter.

Also, if as you claim, "I know myself", then what EXACTLY does that "I" KNOW about "itself"?

[Dontaskme]

So, when 'you' TELL "another",

There is no other, except as belief, and that's the mess right there. This mess was created by the believer, when they believed their name to be who they are, before that, they were no one...so yeah, the mess all started when your parents gave you a name.

There's no hope for anyone who clings to fictional made up knowledge about themselves, and frankly, that's the only good thing going on here.

[Skepdick]

Humans weren't created, they just evolved.

"Human" is a socially constructed collective noun.

There is no such thing as "human" in biology unless you specify a gnetic distance which classifies arbitrarily selected genotypes from planet Earth as "human" and "non-human".

[Age]

Okay. Now, you CLAIM that "there is NO one to know". This sounds like an INTERESTING CLAIM, so what ACTUAL evidence and/or proof do you have for this CLAIM of yours here?

The claim to know just happens to appear, it's as if it really existed.

The knower cannot be proved to exist, else it would be able to recreate itself and that would be it's proof, otherwise how would it know it knows?

So, when 'you' CLAIM, "I know myself", and also CLAIM what you do here, then this MEANS that that "I" can recreate "itself", correct?

Now, will 'you' create "yourself"?

Besides the FACT that you have here, ONCE AGAIN, CONTRADICTED what you have previously written, the CLAIM that there is a "myself" is a CONTRADICTION in and of itself.

Who and/or what does the word 'my' refer to, and, who and/or what does the 'self' refer to, in the MISNOMER "myself"?

[Dontaskme]

But you CLAIM that there is NO knower. Therefore, there could NOT be ANY knower of "myself", nor even 'self', for that matter.

That's quite right Age, there could no one that knows that they know.

The pre-tense //past tense is real enough though, isn't that a kicker.