The character posing as AGE makes a claim … but is it FACT?

[Age]

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Also, let us NOT FORGET that someone "else" has ALREADY PROVED 'creation'. Remember, when you RAN AWAY from that?

No, I don't. Link it or copy it where someone else has already proved it.

'Me': It is an IRREFUTABLE FACT that creation AND evolution play an equal part in what is known as Life, Itself.

"atla": I know that's what you believe, yet you couldn't prove the irrefutable fact of creation.

"Someone
else": So which parts of creation are you doubting so deeply that requires proof?

The part that you live in a society created by humans. The house you live in, the roads you drive on, the books you read, the internet you use - it's all created.

[Age]

Age is just background noise on the Forum - put him on ignore

Agreed... and that's what I did. The forum environment feels better (to me) without his manic repetitive volumes of BlaH, bLAh, blAH scrolling across my screen, page after page, in the topics I participate in... drawing my attention as if he were a screaming child. He seems to have gotten worse -- thereby discouraging even the entertainment value of playing with it. Maybe sliding further into his insulating delusion feels to him like he's learning/advancing somehow.

90% of the thread is unreadable for me. It's almost all people I have on ignore.

I know sometimes most social interaction on the Internet seems dominated by people with various mental and personality issues, but sometimes this board literally seems like it must be mostly populated by people who are institutionalized. Posting here is far more like navigating a minefield of DSM 5 diagnoses than it is like discussing philosophy.

The "philosophy" we get from the mental cases here is akin to if the random promo essay generator instead turned out Time Cube-like rants.

AND, here is even MORE PROOF of what was just CLAIMED.

[Atla]

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Also, let us NOT FORGET that someone "else" has ALREADY PROVED 'creation'. Remember, when you RAN AWAY from that?

No, I don't. Link it or copy it where someone else has already proved it.

'Me': It is an IRREFUTABLE FACT that creation AND evolution play an equal part in what is known as Life, Itself.

"atla": I know that's what you believe, yet you couldn't prove the irrefutable fact of creation.

"Someone
else": So which parts of creation are you doubting so deeply that requires proof?

The part that you live in a society created by humans. The house you live in, the roads you drive on, the books you read, the internet you use - it's all created.

Again you lie and show no proof. That's just "creation" by humans, with nothing more going on as far as we can tell.

[Atla]

Agreed... and that's what I did. The forum environment feels better (to me) without his manic repetitive volumes of BlaH, bLAh, blAH scrolling across my screen, page after page, in the topics I participate in... drawing my attention as if he were a screaming child. He seems to have gotten worse -- thereby discouraging even the entertainment value of playing with it. Maybe sliding further into his insulating delusion feels to him like he's learning/advancing somehow.

90% of the thread is unreadable for me. It's almost all people I have on ignore.

I know sometimes most social interaction on the Internet seems dominated by people with various mental and personality issues, but sometimes this board literally seems like it must be mostly populated by people who are institutionalized. Posting here is far more like navigating a minefield of DSM 5 diagnoses than it is like discussing philosophy.

The "philosophy" we get from the mental cases here is akin to if the random promo essay generator instead turned out Time Cube-like rants.

What a typically conditioned thing to say, it's almost evil. But then you are only human like the rest of us.

Lets just stick someone in an institution for mental issues because they choose to think differently to us. fucking evil.

You may be crazy with DSM-5 issues, but then again Terrapin is a seriously incompetent, ignorant fucker, so it's about even.

[Dontaskme]

You say this like it is meant to be a shame to be "a mess". Is it shameful to 'you', human beings, in the days when this was written, to be "a mess"?

I never mentioned the word 'shame'

Are you ashamed of the word ''mess''

Life is a messy business. Denial is futile. Including the jumbled up words that come out of peoples mouths, their ideas can be perceived as being messy.

The proof is obvious, when two people argue, when they insist on sharing with other people their words and ideas about what and how they perceive and interpret their world views to be, and share that view with others, who then just say they are wrong.

So the one who believes others are wrong, is when words shared between two people can get messy.

It's not shaming, shaming is when people who just happen to choose to think differently that is deemed opposite to the generally accepted normal or status quo, are then told they are not fit for anything other than to be locked away in some secure mental prison for nut-jobs.. all because they just happen to have their own unique way of looking at a reality, they didn't even choose to be in.

[Dontaskme]

You may be crazy with DSM-5 issues, but then again Terrapin is a seriously incompetent, ignorant fucker, so it's about even.

Well of course you are entitled to your assumption, opinion or whatever, you can believe what you like about my character, but your judgement doesn't make it true. Only I know myself, and that's my power.

[Age]

You have been questioned and challenged in regards to what you have claimed. You've admitted that although you know how the brain and mind works, they, it, can never be recreated.

WHAT??

That is NOT CHALLENGING NOR QUESTIONING.

You were under some sort of illusion that to KNOW some thing, then it could be recreated. I PROVIDED you with PROOF that this is NOT necessarily true AT ALL. I did this by PROVIDING the example of how and when one can KNOW how the solar system works, but OBVIOUSLY, NO one can recreate a solar system. Did you MISS this?

Which make your claim stuuupid. Because to know how a thing works, one has to first make it to confirm and clarify that it does indeed work.

So WHEN did someone MAKE a 'solar system' to confirm and clarify that 'it' does indeed work?

Also, thee Mind and the brain ALREADY EXISTS. So, NO one HAS to MAKE them to confirm and clarify that they do indeed work. To ASSUME what you are here appears to be ABSOLUTELY and UTTERLY ILLOGICAL, ABSURD, IRRATIONAL, RIDICULOUS, and NONSENSICAL. Or, in other words, just plain old STUPID.

WHY would you even think that to KNOW how a thing works one HAS TO, first, make it?

OBVIOUSLY if one is IMAGINING some thing, which does NOT ALREADY EXIST, then one would HAVE TO, first, make 'it' to confirm that 'it' actually could indeed work. But, we OBVIOUSLY are NOT talking about things that do NOT ALREADY EXIST.

You are missing the point as always. The claim to know anything about how the brain and mind works is false claim.

AND, what you are MISSING is that the claim that the earth revolves around the sun was claimed to be a "false claim" AS WELL. But not until a claim is PROVEN to be true, there will NEARLY ALWAYS, if NOT ALWAYS, be some who CLAIM 'it' to just be a "false claim". And, NO claim can be PROVEN True to those while they BELIEVE otherwise. As PROVEN True throughout human history.

There is no one to know.

Okay. Now, you CLAIM that "there is NO one to know". This sounds like an INTERESTING CLAIM, so what ACTUAL evidence and/or proof do you have for this CLAIM of yours here?

If there was a knower, then that knower could recreate itself because it would already know how because it has already claimed it knows how it works.

But this EXACT THING is happening and occurring right HERE-NOW.

You miss my point.

There are a few things here;

1. If your point was that If there was a KNOWER of Everything, thee Universe, then that KNOWER could recreate Itself, which is just thee re-Creating Universe, Itself, anyway because that KNOWER would ALREADY KNOW HOW because that KNOWER has ALREADY CLAIMED thee KNOWER KNOWS HOW 'it' works, then I have MISSED what your last 'it' means or refers to, EXACTLY. Will you share with 'us' what this 'it' refers to, EXACTLY?

2. Just because some one KNOWS some 'thing', then there is NO law, which states that that one HAS to recreate that 'thing' just to satisfy the one known as "dontaskme" here.

3. How could a thing recreate itself?

4. I have ALREADY EXPLAINED how if some one KNOWS some thing then that does NOT INFER that that one HAS TO HAVE the ability to recreate that thing.

5. Because of who and what thee KNOWER IS, EXACTLY, then that KNOWER IS ALREADY RECREATING Its Self, ALWAYS.

6. Remember you BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY that there is NO KNOWER, so you will ONLY "find" and SEE 'that' what CONFIRMS this BIASES of YOURS.

[Dontaskme]

You may be crazy with DSM-5 issues, but then again Terrapin is a seriously incompetent, ignorant fucker, so it's about even.

Oh and another thing while we're at it, playing the judgement game. I happen to think you are a very, ugly, vile and disgusting person, but I could be wrong, I really hope I am.

[Atla]

You may be crazy with DSM-5 issues, but then again Terrapin is a seriously incompetent, ignorant fucker, so it's about even.

Oh and another thing while we're at it, playing the judgement game. I happen to think you are a very, ugly, vile and disgusting person, but I could be wrong, I really hope I am.

Well maybe I think the same thing about you, that's why I act this way with you.

[Dontaskme]

Okay. Now, you CLAIM that "there is NO one to know". This sounds like an INTERESTING CLAIM, so what ACTUAL evidence and/or proof do you have for this CLAIM of yours here?

The claim to know just happens to appear, it's as if it really existed.

The knower cannot be proved to exist, else it would be able to recreate itself and that would be it's proof, otherwise how would it know it knows?

[Dontaskme]

You may be crazy with DSM-5 issues, but then again Terrapin is a seriously incompetent, ignorant fucker, so it's about even.

Oh and another thing while we're at it, playing the judgement game. I happen to think you are a very, ugly, vile and disgusting person, but I could be wrong, I really hope I am.

Well maybe I think the same thing about you, that's why I act this way with you.

Exactly, we project to other what we don't like about ourself, because it's distasteful to our natural state, which is nothing, it's not rocket science.

[Atla]

Oh and another thing while we're at it, playing the judgement game. I happen to think you are a very, ugly, vile and disgusting person, but I could be wrong, I really hope I am.

Well maybe I think the same thing about you, that's why I act this way with you.

Exactly, we project to other what we don't like about ourself, because it's distasteful to our natural state, which is nothing, it's not rocket science.

I'm not projecting things about myself on you. The difference between us is that you really are crazy, and as such yet another instrument of humanity's coming destruction. Not as crazy as Age though, and you might have even improved slightly in the last few years.

[Dontaskme]

Just because some one KNOWS some 'thing', then there is NO law, which states that that one HAS to recreate that 'thing' just to satisfy the one known as "dontaskme" here.

It's not 'a someone' who knows something. A 'someone' is known, by the only knowing there is, you are that knowing that cannot be known.

Knowledge of yourself is impossible, knowledge of self is an illusion, if it were possible to know yourself you would have to split yourself in two into knower and known, subject and object, which is impossible, therefore knowing is one without a second, an illusion appearing to be real, it is nothing emerging as something.

Comprehend, that's all that is being written here.

[Dontaskme]

The difference between us is that you really are crazy, and as such yet another instrument of humanity's coming destruction. Not as crazy as Age though, and you might have even improved slightly in the last few years.

Oh ok, thanks for telling me. Noted.

Lets hope the destruction is very near and comes sooner rather than later, no point in prolonging the agony of living any longer. But maybe just prolong the inevitable just a little bit longer, just enough, which is never enough so I get to have one last orgasm, and fuck the consequences as long as I have my little piece of pleasure.

[Atla]

The difference between us is that you really are crazy, and as such yet another instrument of humanity's coming destruction. Not as crazy as Age though, and you might have even improved slightly in the last few years.

Oh ok, thanks for telling me. Noted.

Lets hope the destruction is very near and comes sooner rather than later, no point in prolonging the agony of living any longer. But maybe just prolong the inevitable just a little bit longer, just enough, which is never enough so I get to have one last orgasm, and fuck the consequences as long as I have my little piece of pleasure.

Now I'm not REALLY judging you, I think humanity was probably always doomed from the start, so I gave up trying to save it long ago, why fight the inevitable. On second thought, maybe all these idiots don't deserve to be saved anyway. So now I'm just being an asshole to assholes for fun.