PLEASE LIST THE 4-5 USERS on this forum you are comparing me to, as psychotic.Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:08 amYes... and apparently most of them live off government systems of support, while proclaiming themselves and their self-glorified psychotic, idiotic, and/or drunken fogs uniquely and extraordinarily special, meaningful, and/or divine for humankind... on an online forum.Atla to attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:09 pm You described a pretty standard psychotic break, with flames and God talking and voices shouting etc. There are at least 4-5 users on this forum with various forms of psychosis.
But, I guess, what else are they going to do to claim any kind of validity or credibility: just make up so much shit that they can thoroughly wrap themselves up in (and possibly associate it with a god, which is a common tactic), so that they never have to see or deal with all that is beyond their very small and self-serving cocoon.
...I will again reiterate what occurred to me in 2017, since as I stated to Atla - it was a cheap shot - out of context.
I have worked since before I left school, indeed my first job I was 13. I have paid taxes, worked 3 part time jobs to support myself while at college, and you have the gall to imply that I am living off of the government (a shower of overpaid politician morons that taxed me for all those years, and yes, I got some of my money back for a short period until - as you will see below - God\Sage put a shitload of money into my bank account).
I just want to reiterate what I stated - that Atla blew out of context and you, LW, jumped at the chance to have another shallow dig.
If you ever have bothered to read some books written by physicists you might have at least a little bit of comprehension as to what is plausible about there being an intelligence behind the makeup of what we PERCEIVE as reality.
Maybe then, instead of throwing out nasty accusations, stating I am one of a 'very small self serving cocoons' and 'making up shit' - you just MIGHT be able to provide an actual argument that can counter what I have experienced since 1997. Indeed, you might actually be worthy of being part of a philosophy forum. - I bet you are a free-loader that doesn't even support the magazine!
Below is what Atla and you jumped in by simply claiming that it was all "pretty standard psychotic break, with flames and God talking and voices shouting etc.."
Far from it, the CONTEXT needs to be first examined:-
I have worked in IT since 1997. In 2017 I worked from a Jap company called NEC - doing support for government contracts.
In one particular week, this 'God' entity started making it clear to me, that it wanted me to continue with my ART project - indeed, it forced me out of work. By the Thursday - all the lettering on my screen started to scramble - and someone in the office would yell out "DO ART" - I called God and Christ every expletive under the sun - I told them under my breath to "FUCK OFF" - then someone across the office yelled out "FUCK OFF" back.
Then flames would shoot across my screen.
Now if you understand the slightest thing about physics and what is plausible in the realm of 'multiple dimensions' - then you would at least understand - and that in an office - nobody yells out loudly FUCK OFF. So I was the only one seeing and experiencing this.
At that point - plus the fact my boss was an incompetent twat - and the fact my house was fully paid off, I decided - fuck this. I told the boss I had a headache and left work. I went to my local doctor GP - and said I was suffering anxiety and needed a week off. - he obliged with a certificate.
I then wrote a letter to NEC to resign - (they required a weeks notice - so I never had to go back)
Eventually, I said to my sage\God (sage introduced himself to me in Nov 2005 - another long story) since they forced me out of work, I need income.
Two days later - a big wad of cash was deposited into my bank account with the title BT PORTFOLIO. (BT is my true initials DO_U_BT? - opposite to FAITH)
Now I was on what here is called Centrelink - claiming govt money - and they required me to keep applying for work otherwise those funds would be cut off. A friend of mine suggested I go see a psychiatrist since they can give 3 month certificates that would keep you from having to look for work.
SO I went to a government free psychiatrist. When I told him of my story since 1997, (ya know hearing a voice(s) seeing stuff out of the norm, and that of someone claiming to be a sage etc..) he said, so you don't think there is anything mentally wrong with you. I said absolutely, to which he replied - I need to put something down on this certificate - to which I replied, well then DEFINE schizophrenia - maybe it's God fucking with peoples lives - and he said, right then, so I'll put that down on the cert quizzing ME if I agreed - I said ya go for it.
But I did add, hang on - so for me to get Centrelink off my back to look for a job each week, I have to take these medications you prescribe - I can't just yack with a psychologist? - he said yeah - U gotta take the meds (LMFAO)
So I continued to paint - didn't have to get up for the morning commute in heavy boring traffic everyday to work some boring job working for morons. I bought a dog, we have nice walks everyday and I do my art, program my website (which is on hold atm), and am writing the sequel to Alpha Two (a cyberpunk novel)
God told me "you are in heaven" - ...who arts in heaven? atto!
So ya, if hearing the voice of God and someone who introduced himself to me in 2005 from aether as a sage, and me basically telling a shrink to write on a certificate that I am a schizo - renders me a schizo to you - the so be it - good luck with your short-sighted atheist stunted life.
"Spiritual" "Atheism" = Lacewing - a contradiction, and summed up quite eloquently in this quote of yours.Lacewing wrote: Throughout nature, I see a kind of awareness and perfection that "knows what it's doing", as it explores, expands, perfects, and dances. It also appears to be connected, all throughout. I see no reason to think that there's a puppet-master for such a thing -- rather, the creative force drives itself from within.
Please explain how the natural universe can have an 'awareness, that KNOWS what it is doing"? - IF there is NOT an intelligence behind it's makeup - ya know - most call that God. - what indeed does a 'spritual atheist' such as yourself call it!!?
