American election.

[henry quirk]

peckerheads bleat about his bein' fascistic but never say what he's done exactly that is tyrannical

Yeah, I know.

What you get back from them is, "How can you defend him?" but nothing specific. They say, "He's a pervert." But he's got nothing on Clinton. They say, "He's a racist." But they've got nothing on that, either. What they end up saying is, "He tweets all the time."

Um...yeah...so?

I mean, he's not "my guy." I have neither reason nor possibility of voting for him, or for anybody else. But I can't figure out where the hatred's coming from. Nothing they ever mention adds up to anything.

the hatred is cuz he wrecks their shit: pure & simple

[Nick_A]

Karl Marx~ Religion is the opiate of the masses
Simone Weil - Revolution is the opiate of the masses

Socialism leading to Communism lives under the fantasy that once they reach their goal, everything will be wonderful. Peace and love will rule the land. Supporters of these ideas do not realize that nothing stays the same. Everything is changing including societies.

Since we are as we are, everything is as it is. Water seeks its own level and it is the same with societies. What happens to them is a direct result of the collective quality of its being. The result of revolutions will just create the problems causing the revolution. It changes its form but its essence remains the same. If that is true the humanitarian goals of socialism are a fantasy. Its being prevents it.

Socialism needs a scapegoat. It needs someone or something to blame as the cause of all evil. Marx blamed it on religion and the left in America blames Trump. Without a scapegoat and something to curse out, socialism loses its power. Surely we can't blame ourselves. That is too insulting to consider.

The value of a free society is that it offers the ability to learn by its mistakes. Without being attacked by the intelligentsia, citizens can govern themselves. Rather than the great beast acquiring the power to do so. Morality as defined by a free society as "one nation under God" It is only from this attitude that a nation can grow in its being and actually produce some of the values which concern socialism. One nation under communism is only possible through creating indoctrinated slaves of the Great Beast enforced through tyranny which eventually leads to its opposite and revolution. The dead will then be buried and the cycle begins again.

[henry quirk]

BOTH sides need to look in the mirror before complaining about their opposition.

I agree.

I really think we need a much higher grade of political candidate than we've been getting...in many countries. And the fact that they can go with such low-grade guys tells you that the real wielders of power can't possibly be the guy in front. Something really sketchy is going on.

as I say: put a binding none of the above option on every ballot, of every election, from the municipal clear up to the federal, if you wanna begin cleanin' up politics

give voters the opportunity to say no to all of 'em

the other path (the one increasingly likely) is we hang the lot of 'em and start from scratch

[henry quirk]

The swamp just isn't a word. The media is part of it.

Going into the election a lot of people had not even heard about the laptop, just as folks don't hear many scientists say that lockdowns are more harmful than not.

They're saving Hunter in case Biden gets elected. That scandal is an extra option to get rid of Biden and seat Harris as the president. Biden is a career hack. Harris is a radical.

Oh, interesting. So you think they might use the laptop to decapitate their own Presidency, and enthrone a candidate nobody would vote for?

Wow. That's cold, if it's true.

Elitists, the slavers, have fewer limitations than the fair-minded folks who just want to go about their business, unmolested.

a free man isn't restricted, which -- of course -- is an affront to the slaver

that's why free folks get legislated into the dirt (I suspect them days are comin' to an end, though)

[henry quirk]

I agree with Immanuel Can's cogent, factual presentation of the "other side."

Two sides can often be stripped down to good vs. evil.

it's more basic than that: it's free folks vs slavers

[Belinda]

Nick wrote:

Socialism needs a scapegoat.

Socialism does not 'need'. Some socialists may feel they need scapegoats. Even some socialists can be unreasoning men.

[Nick_A]

Nick wrote:

Socialism needs a scapegoat.

Socialism does not 'need'. Some socialists may feel they need scapegoats. Even some socialists can be unreasoning men.

IYO why doesn't socialism work? The great reset sounds good but experience has proven it doesn't work. You can blame it on education but it is obvious how much it has failed

It seems we must blame someone as to why socialism doesn't work. If we can't blame Trump, who or what do we blame?

[commonsense]

BOTH sides need to look in the mirror before complaining about their opposition.

I agree.

I really think we need a much higher grade of political candidate than we've been getting...in many countries. And the fact that they can go with such low-grade guys tells you that the real wielders of power can't possibly be the guy in front. Something really sketchy is going on.

as I say: put a binding none of the above option on every ballot, of every election, from the municipal clear up to the federal, if you wanna begin cleanin' up politics

give voters the opportunity to say no to all of 'em

the other path (the one increasingly likely) is we hang the lot of 'em and start from scratch

I remember we went through this before, but I don’t remember the details.

I think it was brought up that not voting isn’t the same as voting for none of the above.

Was there anything said about using the write-in line and writing none of the above there?

[commonsense]

I agree.

I really think we need a much higher grade of political candidate than we've been getting...in many countries. And the fact that they can go with such low-grade guys tells you that the real wielders of power can't possibly be the guy in front. Something really sketchy is going on.

as I say: put a binding none of the above option on every ballot, of every election, from the municipal clear up to the federal, if you wanna begin cleanin' up politics

give voters the opportunity to say no to all of 'em

the other path (the one increasingly likely) is we hang the lot of 'em and start from scratch

I remember we went through this before, but I don’t remember the details.

I think it was brought up that not voting isn’t the same as voting for none of the above.

Was there anything said about using the write-in line and writing none of the above there?

If none of the above wins, does that mean there has to be another election but with new candidates? Or would the election go to the candidate in 2nd place?

[attofishpi]

I expect the wokies here to get on your case for 'categorising' people as 'black'. (I won't be holding my breath though).
Who the hell cares what colour voters are? How fucking racist.

That is fucking hilarious synchronicity right there - go check the other thread where I just compared U to a racist for labeling people! (as in wokies)

I stated 'black' - that is how most of them see themselves - I don't agree with it, hence the quotes - I have already stated on this forum - I HAVE NEVER MET A BLACK PERSON OR A WHITE PERSON.

Yeah right. And you didn't put WHITE in 'quotes',

What do U mean 'yeah right' ? To me it's just a bunch of hues - most considered black are more like brown, most considered ""white"" are more like beige.

or megalomaniac. Is megalomaniac not a label?...

It's an accurate description of the character of an INDIVIDUAL (in this case someone rather 'ORANGE') - rather than, racism and 'wokies' collectively naming people (stereotyping).

[vegetariantaxidermy]

That is fucking hilarious synchronicity right there - go check the other thread where I just compared U to a racist for labeling people! (as in wokies)

I stated 'black' - that is how most of them see themselves - I don't agree with it, hence the quotes - I have already stated on this forum - I HAVE NEVER MET A BLACK PERSON OR A WHITE PERSON.

Yeah right. And you didn't put WHITE in 'quotes',

What do U mean 'yeah right' ? To me it's just a bunch of hues - most considered black are more like brown, most considered ""white"" are more like beige.

or megalomaniac. Is megalomaniac not a label?...

It's an accurate description of the character of an INDIVIDUAL (in this case someone rather 'ORANGE') - rather than, racism and 'wokies' collectively naming people (stereotyping).

You look pretty 'white' in your avatar. I suppose if you were raped and robbed then you wouldn't notice what your tormentor looked like and would just describe them to the police as 'human'...
I've notice here too that when the police are looking for someone they never describe their skin shade or ethnicity (i.e. they don't describe them at all, so as not to 'offend' wokies). How fucking ridiculous.

[attofishpi]

Yeah right. And you didn't put WHITE in 'quotes',

What do U mean 'yeah right' ? To me it's just a bunch of hues - most considered black are more like brown, most considered ""white"" are more like beige.

or megalomaniac. Is megalomaniac not a label?...

It's an accurate description of the character of an INDIVIDUAL (in this case someone rather 'ORANGE') - rather than, racism and 'wokies' collectively naming people (stereotyping).

You look pretty 'white' in your avatar. I suppose if you were raped and robbed then you wouldn't notice what your tormentor looked like and would just describe them to the police as 'human'...

Hang on, you are confusing me now...what 'tormentor'? ...sounds like my hooker.

No I'd describe them as black no matter what the hue towards white, it would be my civic duty.

I've notice here too that when the police are looking for someone they never describe their skin shade or ethnicity (i.e. they don't describe them at all, so as not to 'offend' wokies). How fucking ridiculous.

Ya, I was rather upset when Teresa May described a van driver than ran in to some Muslims outside a Mosque as white - nothing was said about that - but if she had stated black - well..maybe one of the wokies might come out -
--this is one of them right?
-

[vegetariantaxidermy]

No I'd describe them as black no matter what the hue towards white, it would be my civic duty.

I didn't say anything about them being 'black'. How racist of you

[attofishpi]

No I'd describe them as black no matter what the hue towards white, it would be my civic duty.

I didn't say anything about them being 'black'. How racist of you

U R not going to be a PC-turd now are U Veg - over my extreeeemely racist JOKE?

[gaffo]

Nothing about corruption was on my mind.

Oh, well, then...you should be in favour of a recount. Nobody's going to corrupt it, then.

And that will be great for the legitimate winner, whomever he is.

not bother with reason when talking to cult45, all they know is Dear Leader, they would be more at home in NK than my land.

I'm living in Germany 33, and it scare the shit out of me - as it has for the last 4 yrs - and prob will the next 4 yrs.

brainstems only drink koolaid, you waste waste your time with them - facts mean nothing to them. only relivence is does dear leader affirm the fact before i may also do so.

cult 45, the strongest shince 80 yrs ago in that other land.

you value history, i do not know the perscentage of Germans that loved their Dear Leader in the mid 30's - not all germans surely.

i would bet it was around 1/3 or so, today Rump has him beat with 3/8 since 2016.


Rump makes Jim Jones proud........oh and BTW Barnam was right (reich) - there is one - millions - born every minute.