There is no personal God or impersonal God.

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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:04 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:58 pm
But I have NEVER NOT accepted the reason you have given for what you are doing on this forum. If you REALLY want and are just playing the 'you' and 'I' game where 'you' throw the ball and 'I' catch it, with and by the WRONG termed "your" 'self', then so be it. I accept that.

Also, and by the way, IF you REALLY do NOT desperately want to reveal some thing at all here, in this forum, then why do you NOT STOP saying the same things over and over again, here in this forum?
But I really really don't care about wrong or right termed selves.

I'm just fine playing with them both. I'm not really that picky about picking one side over the other side, and so just like you, I too am a retard disgusting braindead imbecile.
Okay if 'you' say so.
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:05 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:58 pm
Also, and by the way, IF you REALLY do NOT desperately want to reveal some thing at all here, in this forum, then why do you NOT STOP saying the same things over and over again, here in this forum?
Because I cannot stop what I am not starting...that's why.
Okay.

This is just ANOTHER PRIME EXAMPLE of one 'trying to' get out of EXPLAINING and CLARIFYING what they OBVIOUSLY can not.

Instead of just being OPEN and Honest, the people in the days of when this is being written, revert to such inane responses as this.
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:18 pm
By the way, do 'you', the human being, recall that ABSOLUTELY EVERY thing that 'you', human beings, have made and have created, which 'you' live with NOW was ONCE also SEEN as being IMPOSSIBLE?
That's not true. It's just a belief that human created things were once seen as impossible.

If these created things were once seen as impossible, they would never have manifested EVER. These created things must already exist within the materials they are formed out of.

For example, take a beach load of sand, the beach is made of just formless sand, and in that sand there is a sandcastle just waiting to be formed. So the sand is really the formless form in potential. The formless is form because you cannot have a formless form, there is no such form as a formless form. So not impossible no.

Form can only build upon form, there is no invisible hand creating or manifesting form. And while we are on the subject of form, there is no invisible mind either informing the form to build form. For form already exists, it does not come into being, nor does it leave being, it just changes from one form into a different form...all formed from the same form.



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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:11 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:58 pmIf you did WANT TO KNOW and SO asked CLARIFYING QUESTION/S, then I could provide you with the ACTUAL Truth.
Well thanks for letting me know, but I'd REALLY REALLY rather get my own ACTUAL TRUTH knowing ..if it's all the same to you.
This can be CLEARLY SEEN and EVIDENCED.

Being a Truly OPEN and inquisitive being, thus a Truly INTELLIGENT being, like 'you' once were, is your choice alone.

If 'you' choose NOT TO be, then so be 'it'.
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:15 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:07 pm The word 'imposed' in relation to just asking a person a clarifying question, for clarity, does NOT work, logically nor sensibly.
It does when the actual truth is known...but then you wouldn't know that would you and that is why you seek clarification from me.

But I'm not going to give you any, work it out for yourself lazy. You're a grown adult aren't you, you do not need to keep asking what things mean like a small child...or are you a child?
Finally a CLARIFY QUESTION. BUT, considering what 'you' just said here, 'you' could work this out all by "your" lonesome, correct?

Also, your suggesting here that you KNOW what things ACTUALLY mean has ALREADY been refuted, and thus PROVEN WRONG.
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Re: There is no personal God or impersonal God.

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Age wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:28 am
This is just ANOTHER PRIME EXAMPLE of one 'trying to' get out of EXPLAINING and CLARIFYING what they OBVIOUSLY can not.

Instead of just being OPEN and Honest, the people in the days of when this is being written, revert to such inane responses as this.
Yeah well I've already told you before this cannot be explained, it can only be speculated and interpreted, but you never listen or hear those words...and or you just refuse to believe those words are true.
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:17 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:12 pm
So, if the 'I' can REALLY only arise in One way ONLY, and REALLY from the One Source ONLY, then HOW could there be a same "difference"?
I guess you didn't understand what I meant or said...no worries, you are not alone, I have the same problem as you, only my problem understanding you is different to yours.
But 'you' do NOT understand 'me' BECAUSE 'you' make ASSUMPTIONS, and do NOT ask CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.

'I' do NOT understand 'you' BECAUSE what 'you' say you CAN NOT CLARIFY. 'you' have even admitted that 'you' CAN NOT explain what you say.
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Age wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:31 am
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:11 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:58 pmIf you did WANT TO KNOW and SO asked CLARIFYING QUESTION/S, then I could provide you with the ACTUAL Truth.
Well thanks for letting me know, but I'd REALLY REALLY rather get my own ACTUAL TRUTH knowing ..if it's all the same to you.
This can be CLEARLY SEEN and EVIDENCED.

Being a Truly OPEN and inquisitive being, thus a Truly INTELLIGENT being, like 'you' once were, is your choice alone.

If 'you' choose NOT TO be, then so be 'it'.
The universe has No intelligence, no intelligence built this universe and all that it is, that is clearly known. But that's another long story i haven't got the will or time to discuss right now.

There is no inquisitive being except a belief there is...bla blah blah...
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Age wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:38 am
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:17 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:12 pm
So, if the 'I' can REALLY only arise in One way ONLY, and REALLY from the One Source ONLY, then HOW could there be a same "difference"?
I guess you didn't understand what I meant or said...no worries, you are not alone, I have the same problem as you, only my problem understanding you is different to yours.
But 'you' do NOT understand 'me' BECAUSE 'you' make ASSUMPTIONS, and do NOT ask CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.

'I' do NOT understand 'you' BECAUSE what 'you' say you CAN NOT CLARIFY. 'you' have even admitted that 'you' CAN NOT explain what you say.
That's because you make no sense to me whatsoever, and you never have or ever will. Do you not understand that. I do not need to ask you anything that I do not already know, I've tried to tell you this many times but you do not listen or hear me.
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:25 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:14 pm You see the reason why the twisting and distorting happens here between the ''you'' and the ''I'' is because expression of the one ''I'' can arise in multiple different ways that's all.
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:12 pmBut WHY? Especially considering It refers to One 'Thing', Only?
One thing only.. cannot and does not ask why questions, if it did, then who would be the other one thing to answer that one thing other than it's same self?
One Thing can and does ask WHY questions.

The One Thing asks questions, through 'you', human beings, to one "another".

The 'who' who is the "other" thing to answer the One Thing is those many 'selves', generally known as 'persons'.

Thee One Thing does asks WHY questions to one 'generation' of human beings to have the ACTUAL EVIDENCE to SHOW and PROVE to following 'generations' of human beings of how NOT to behave and NOT what to do.




Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:49 pm So why would it do that, the answer is because there is no other one thing to do it with that's why.
LOL

Are 'you' at all able to RECOGNIZE and SEE just how CONTRADICTORY and ILLOGICAL this is?
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:30 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:18 pm
And, HOW does 'NO one' "shed a tear" or "nearly shed a tear"?
Same way the sun shines or the grass grows. These happenings just happen.
But 'you' have STATED and have INSISTED that NO one does this.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:30 pm Dontaskme how...ask the tear or the sun, maybe these things can shed a light on the why or how question.
But tears and the sun do NOT think NOR speak.

Only 'you', human beings, think, and I like to shed light on the way 'you', human beings, think, and speak, in the days of when this is being written.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:30 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:18 pmWHY does a 'you' SAY, and WRITE, this?

No 'you' ever uttered or wrote a word, I've already told you that umpteen times already.
LOL

The CONTRADICTIONS are HILARIOUS.

This is the story, and "logic", from the one known as "dontaskme". There is NO 'you' that could EVER utter a word, and, that 'you' SAYS so.

That 'you' even SAYS that they have uttered the words, "no you could ever utter a word", 'umpteen times already'.

IF, as 'you' say, "no you could EVER utter A word", then how could 'you' and how did 'you' utter those words?
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:45 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:19 pmSo, if this 'thing' does NOT exist, then WHY is it 'you' who brings this 'thing' up, and then talks about 'it'?
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:32 pmI did not bring this thing up...The thing brought me up...out of no thing.
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:19 pmSo, the thing (the personal God), which you INSIST there is NONE, you now say, ACTUALLY brought you up.

Are 'you' AWARE of just how many times 'you' CONTRADICT "your" 'self'?
Yes I am aware that I contradick myself.

What's it to you, do you have a problem with that?
Yes I have a 'problem' with that, from my perspective of what the word 'problem' means here. The 'problem' I have with 'you', "dontaskme", continually contradicting is; WHY do it?

We are in a 'philosophy forum' and not just 'making conversation' for the sake of it.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:45 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:19 pm


'you' REALLY DO NEED to LOOK AT and FOCUS ON the ACTUAL words that I do USE, WRITE, and SAY, and FOCUS on them ONLY. When 'you' FOCUS on what 'you' think or BELIEVE I have written and said, then you will end up BEING WRONG, which can be CLEARLY SEEN and EVIDENCED throughout YOUR WRITINGS.
Yeah I can clearly see from here that you are being wrong as evidenced in your writing, so thanks for being open and honest with me about this. Perhaps if you focused more on the actual words that you use, write and say, you wouldn't have the NEED for any clarity.

Also, you have no need to believe other peoples ways of writing which is only ever what they themselves believe to be true. Just remember, to always believe your own bullshit first, forget about other peoples bullshit beliefs...other peoples bullshit is none of your business anyway.



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ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THIS has ANY thing AT ALL to do with what I was saying, which was;

If 'you' STOPPED making assumptions, and just focused ONLY on what I ACTUALLY WRITE, then 'you' would NOT have ANY, so called, "problems" with UNDERSTANDING.
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Age wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:45 am
LOL

Are 'you' at all able to RECOGNIZE and SEE just how CONTRADICTORY and ILLOGICAL this is?
Short answer is NO

The contradiction is perfectly logical and recognised in this one here, sorry to hear you there are having a hard time accepting this.
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:55 pm
DAM wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:29 pm
Just so you know, brains know fuck all. So yea be wasting your time with that lump of green evolved slime.

I often talk to my brain asking for answers to questions, but it never replies.
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:29 pmThis is partly due to the FACT that that 'one' is, literally, goes by the name "dontaskme".

Oh gawd, here we go again, no, no, no, no, you see this is where you are mixing apples with oranges again.

The concept dontaskme, is not the concept arm or leg or brain. It really isn't.
Yes I KNOW.

The concept 'arm' IS; the 'concept' arm.

The concept 'leg' IS; the 'concept' leg. And,

The concept 'brain' IS; the 'concept' brain.

The concept "dontaskme" is the 'concept' of a 'label' given to one person, here in this forum.

Besides this FACT, what is ALSO OBVIOUS is the concept "dontasme" is NOT the concept of absolutely ANY thing other than the concept of the one human being known as "dontaskme", here in this forum, who is actually WRITING and READING 'words'.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:45 pm You see, I know the actual truth and so do you, but we say and know it in a different way that's all.
But HOW could you KNOW you know the ACTUAL Truth if, and when, 'you' CAN NOT EVEN EXPLAIN 'It'?

If 'you' can NOT explain some thing SIMPLY, then how well do 'you' REALLY KNOW 'it'?
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:45 pm Why can't you just accept this simple and easy truth?
BECAUSE this is NOT the Truth.

OBVIOUSLY, if 'you' KNOW thee ACTUAL Truth, then there could be NO one who could EVER refute 'THAT'.

OF COURSE thee ACTUAL Truth is within EVERY human being, but this does NOT mean that each NOR ANY 'you' KNOWS this Truth.

'you' have to first KNOW what makes up thee ACTUAL Truth, BEFORE 'you' could begin to LEARN what thee ACTUAL Truth actually IS.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:02 am
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:29 pm
Well there REALLY is ONLY One True Source.

But WHY ANY 'one' would call It a "daddy" only they would Truly KNOW.
That's right, only the source of knowing can know something.
AND, CONTRADICTORY to YOUR OWN BELIEF, that Source can, and does KNOW Its OWN 'Self'.
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:02 am And what is something, well it's anything at all, it can be a sky daddy or it can be an apple, it can be what ever concept fits.

It's not rocket science that the true source of knowing is the one that knows.
AND, there is ONLY One that Truly KNOWS. That One is thee, One and ONLY, 'Mind', Itself.

ALL of 'you', human beings, ONLY 'think' you know.

Thee Source of ALL Knowing is thee Truly OPEN Mind, Itself.

The source of ALL thinking, and thus NOT Knowing, is the brain, itself.

The brain has a narrowed and short sighted view of things because of PREJUDICES, PRESUMPTIONS, ASSUMPTIONS, and BELIEFS.
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