There is no personal God or impersonal God.

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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:53 pm


Thee, one and ONLY, 'I' KNOWS, for sure. The, many and lots of, 'you' only thinks, or assumes.

There is ONLY One Mind. So, reading It is EXTREMELY SIMPLE and EASY.

The 'you', however, can only obtain thee KNOWING, of and from thee Mind, through ABSOLUTE Honesty, which OBVIOUSLY does NOT involve the secrets NOR the deceit, which you are EXPOSING here now.
Yes I know all that...did you for one second believe I didn't?
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:53 pmONCE AGAIN, 'you' will NOT just ANSWER the ACTUAL QUESTION posed.
Yes I did ..I have already answered the question imposed...did you not read it?

I thought you just said reading the mind is all very simple and easy.
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:19 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:13 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:42 pm


SOURCE

Did you forget again?
So, what 'you' are now saying is:

Everyone knows SOURCE, because everyone is no one. Is this now correct?

By the way, I OBVIOUSLY did NOT "forget again" because I NEVER knew EXACTLY what 'you' were SAYING the first time. This is WHY 'I' asked 'you' the CLARIFYING question/s.
Why do you always ask for clarifying questions from another you who never provides any?
To SHOW and EXPOSE who, and what, the REAL 'you' IS. So, that future, to 'you', 'you' can SEE and UNDERSTAND what the REAL 'human being' ACTUALLY IS.

By REVEALING, through SHOWING, how the 'you', in the days of when this is written, were really so secretive, and thus so VERY CLOSED, that this is WHY human beings, as a collective whole, took SO LONG to ANSWER the REAL MEANINGFUL QUESTIONS in Life.

I want the future ones, to SEE EXACTLY HOW the human beings, in the days of when this was written, were SO VERY CLOSED, and to SEE WHY this CLOSEDNESS was leading them to their complete downfall.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:19 pm Isn't that a bit pointless?

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Not at all.

I am here, in this forum, to learn how to communicate better with 'you', human beings.

'you', human beings, do NOT listen to what I ACTUALLY SAY, and ACTUALLY MEAN. So, I endeavor to learn how to be better heard, and better understood, from 'you'.

I do this so that that the actual point, which I set out to reach is achieved, and which is to just SHOW and REVEAL to ALL of 'you' just how Truly SIMPLE and EASY it REALLY IS for ALL of 'you' to live in peace and in harmony together as One.

I find this NOT pointless at all. 'you' REVEALING "your" true 'self', which in turn REVEALS thee One and ONLY ACTUAL True 'Self', of EVERY 'one', is NOT pointless AT ALL, as this is what is NEEDED in order to bring about the True 'world', which we ALL want Truly WANT to live in.
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:42 pmWHY does the one known as "dontaskme" feel the NEED to, OBVIOUSLY, twist AND distort what "others" have ACTUALLY STATED and SAID?
For the same reason why the one known as ''Age'' ''Ken'' or whatever other stupid dumb name this no one comes up with.

You see the reason why the twisting and distorting happens here between the ''you'' and the ''I'' is because expression of the one ''I'' can arise in multiple different ways that's all. But that expression happens to be sourced from the same place, so it's kind of like the same difference.

I thought that would be obvious.
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:27 pm Anyhoo ...enough of all this mental nonsense.
One minute you state and say:
I'm not seeking or looking for anything in this forum, I'm just playing the 'you' and 'I' game where 'you' throw the ball and 'I' catch it.

It's a fun game. 8)


Then the next you state and say:
this is mental nonsense.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:27 pm Getting back to the OP
Okay. 'you', "dontaskme", BELIEVE that there is NO 'personal God' NOR 'impersonal God', correct?
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:27 pm If any one has a counter argument against the No personal God claim, then lets hear what you've got.
Can we see an argument that there is NO personal God.

Just CLAIMING that; 'There is NO personal God', really does NOT say ANY thing at all.

What actually IS a 'personal God', which you CLAIM there is NONE?

Would 'you' like to START by defining what the words 'personal God' ACTUALLY MEANS, to 'you'?

If 'you' did, then "others" might be able to formulate an argument against YOUR CLAIM that there is NONE of this 'thing' [whatever this 'thing' is].
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:27 pm But do be aware that you might get sucked into the mental asylum while you are participating on my thread, it's unavoidable when talking about characters that do not actually exist... :lol:
So, if this 'thing' does NOT exist, then WHY is it 'you' who brings this 'thing' up, and then talks about 'it'?

Those of 'you' who used to bring up and talk about non existent things, not to long ago before the days of when this is being written, used to be sent to mental asylums, for some period of time. Why do 'you' "dontaskme" persist with this behavior, in the days of when this is being written?
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:08 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:19 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:13 pm

So, what 'you' are now saying is:

Everyone knows SOURCE, because everyone is no one. Is this now correct?

By the way, I OBVIOUSLY did NOT "forget again" because I NEVER knew EXACTLY what 'you' were SAYING the first time. This is WHY 'I' asked 'you' the CLARIFYING question/s.
Why do you always ask for clarifying questions from another you who never provides any?
To SHOW and EXPOSE who, and what, the REAL 'you' IS. So, that future, to 'you', 'you' can SEE and UNDERSTAND what the REAL 'human being' ACTUALLY IS.

By REVEALING, through SHOWING, how the 'you', in the days of when this is written, were really so secretive, and thus so VERY CLOSED, that this is WHY human beings, as a collective whole, took SO LONG to ANSWER the REAL MEANINGFUL QUESTIONS in Life.

I want the future ones, to SEE EXACTLY HOW the human beings, in the days of when this was written, were SO VERY CLOSED, and to SEE WHY this CLOSEDNESS was leading them to their complete downfall.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:19 pm Isn't that a bit pointless?

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Not at all.

I am here, in this forum, to learn how to communicate better with 'you', human beings.

'you', human beings, do NOT listen to what I ACTUALLY SAY, and ACTUALLY MEAN. So, I endeavor to learn how to be better heard, and better understood, from 'you'.

I do this so that that the actual point, which I set out to reach is achieved, and which is to just SHOW and REVEAL to ALL of 'you' just how Truly SIMPLE and EASY it REALLY IS for ALL of 'you' to live in peace and in harmony together as One.

I find this NOT pointless at all. 'you' REVEALING "your" true 'self', which in turn REVEALS thee One and ONLY ACTUAL True 'Self', of EVERY 'one', is NOT pointless AT ALL, as this is what is NEEDED in order to bring about the True 'world', which we ALL want Truly WANT to live in.

I can see your point. It's a lovely story isn't it? ...I almost nearly shed a tear reading all that.

But the real actual problem with all that must is that there is no human being, nor is there a God, nor is there a 'you', or a 'me' or an 'I' for that matter...these are all just known concepts, known by nothing. aka Not a thing.

So you see, there really is no such place as a utopian world full of harmony, or peace, where everyone is sitting around a cosy campfire wearing pretty yellow and white daisy chains singing Kumbaya.

I mean seriously, what planet do you think you are living on?
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:34 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:28 pm
I SEE 'you' can VERY EASILY EXPLAIN what "dontaskme" is NOT. But can 'you' EXPLAIN what "dontaskme" IS?

If yes, then WILL YOU?

No ..now fuck off.

I'm sick of repeating myself, and besides, you too only hear what you want to hear anyway, so fuck you...for now, untill I can be bothered to play silly word/mind games with myself again.



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This is a PRIME EXAMPLE of HOW and WHEN information/knowledge, which is shared from the brain ONLY, is COMPLETELY INCAPABLE of CLARIFYING itself.

This happens when information/knowledge is NOT sourced from thee Source, thee Mind Itself, but rather is sourced from the brain, itself, only.
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:19 pm
So, if this 'thing' does NOT exist, then WHY is it 'you' who brings this 'thing' up, and then talks about 'it'?
I did not bring this thing up...The thing brought me up...out of no thing.
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:19 pmThose of 'you' who used to bring up and talk about non existent things, not to long ago before the days of when this is being written, used to be sent to mental asylums, for some period of time. Why do 'you' "dontaskme" persist with this behavior, in the days of when this is being written?
Look your the one that brought up the idea of invisible minds, so welcome back to the asylum oh seeker.
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:41 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:28 pm An object can still be ABSOLUTELY ANY THING AT ALL. No matter what 'you' BELIEVE. So, WHY 'believe' ANY thing at all?
Concepts are fixed that's why.
Concepts, like absolutely EVERY thing else, is NOT fixed. THEY CHANGE. Unless, OF COURSE, 'you', the human beings makes a 'concept' FIXED.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:41 pm Belief is just something that we all agree on.
But 'belief' is NOT just something that we ALL agree on, as EVIDENCED and PROVEN throughout these writings, in this forum.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:41 pm For example: an apple is not an orange, we can all agree that the concept apple is fixed, in that the apple cannot be any thing other than an apple.
The CORRECT word here is 'can'. As we CAN all agree on things, like things like; 'the concept of apple is FIXED'.

But we would HAVE TO AGREE FIRST, before it is actually that way.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:41 pm You do not show an apple to a child who is learning what an object is for the first time and then tell them the apple is an orange do you?
You have such a very narrowed and short sighted view of things, that you are MISSING the big and WHOLE picture here.
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:27 pm
This is a PRIME EXAMPLE of HOW and WHEN information/knowledge, which is shared from the brain ONLY, is COMPLETELY INCAPABLE of CLARIFYING itself.

This happens when information/knowledge is NOT sourced from thee Source, thee Mind Itself, but rather is sourced from the brain, itself, only.
Just so you know, brains know fuck all. So yea be wasting your time with that lump of green evolved slime.

I often talk to my brain asking for answers to questions, but it never replies. I have the same problem when I ask my arm or leg a question too. :D

But then who to ask?

I could ask the invisible sky daddy I suppose :roll:
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:49 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:29 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:53 pm

Nothing.
Well this is OBVIOUSLY a LIE.

How is it ACTUALLY POSSIBLE for a human being to do "nothing"?
It's just a figure of speech that's all....you know, like when you ask a child what are you doing and the child says nothing...but you really know they were doing something, and so does the child.





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SEE how EASY and SIMPLE it REALLY IS to just SAY, EXPLAIN, and UNDERSTAND, what thee ACTUAL Truth, actually, IS?
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:35 pm
You have such a very narrowed and short sighted view of things, that you are MISSING the big and WHOLE picture here.
Aww, is that because I'm not as all knowing as you would like me to be, are you so frustrated that I am missing the big picture that you are trying to show me, does that make you sad, Aww, poor little you..you desperately want me to understand what you are saying don't you, aww, it must be so awful not being able to communicate this bigger picture with others so that they too will not miss it, and that all they seem to do is not understand what you are saying, oh my golly gosh you must be so gutted and tired of trying to communicate this with people all the time.

However, I really must tell you that I don't think I'm going to lose out on understanding this BIG PICTURE conversation though, because quite frankly I don't give a fuck whether you believe or think I am missing something, because I already know the whole big picture whether you believe it or not. So there fuck face.
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:40 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:49 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:29 pm

Well this is OBVIOUSLY a LIE.

How is it ACTUALLY POSSIBLE for a human being to do "nothing"?
It's just a figure of speech that's all....you know, like when you ask a child what are you doing and the child says nothing...but you really know they were doing something, and so does the child.





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SEE how EASY and SIMPLE it REALLY IS to just SAY, EXPLAIN, and UNDERSTAND, what thee ACTUAL Truth, actually, IS?
Yep, it's very easy and simple to explain that an apple is an apple and not an orange.

It's a bit like knowing 2+2 = 4

All very simple and easy half truths.

Because you then have to explain who the who is that knows these half truths, and that's where the simple easy gets a little bit tricky.



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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:56 pm
Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:47 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:09 pm

Probably be a good idea to just flush this 'you' down the loo where it belongs. Rather, go right to the actual source of all knowing, and not bother with dithering knowing..Yeah, that'll be a good idea, probably, er yes most definitely.
But it is 'you' who will NOT let this 'you' go (down the drain). It is 'you' who keeps bringing this 'you' back up.

How about 'you' just ANSWER the ACTUAL CLARIFYING QUESTIONS posed TO 'YOU' OPENLY and Honestly. 'you' KNOW, like from thee Source?

That way ALL could be REVEALED much quicker, simpler, and easier.

OBVIOUSLY, 'you' VERY DESPERATELY WANT to REVEAL some thing, so how about being Truly OPEN and Honest so that what 'it' IS, which you want to SHOW 'us' can be FULLY SEEN and FULLY UNDERSTOOD?
I do answer the clarifying questions ...
Did you ACTUALLY and REALLY MEAN; you do answer SOME of the clarifying questions?

If no, then what did you REALLY MEAN?
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:56 pm but I can't do anything about it when you don't like to hear the answers, or that you say things like I do not provide any that you can agree on.
But I do NOT say this, nor even think this.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:56 pm Or even when you say things like I don't even have any to provide you with at all.
I do NOT say this, nor think this, ALSO.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:56 pm What can I do about that?
What is 'that' EXACTLY?

YOUR ASSUMPTIONS and CONCLUSIONS above were WRONG, AGAIN.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:56 pm Also, I do not want to desperately reveal something at all, so I do not know why you keep saying that.
If you did WANT TO KNOW and SO asked CLARIFYING QUESTION/S, then I could provide you with the ACTUAL Truth.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:56 pm I've already told you what I am doing on this forum, but you don't seem to want to accept the reason I've given you.



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But I have NEVER NOT accepted the reason you have given for what you are doing on this forum. If you REALLY want and are just playing the 'you' and 'I' game where 'you' throw the ball and 'I' catch it, with and by the WRONG termed "your" 'self', then so be it. I accept that.

Also, and by the way, IF you REALLY do NOT desperately want to reveal some thing at all here, in this forum, then why do you NOT STOP saying the same things over and over again, here in this forum?
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:58 pm
But I have NEVER NOT accepted the reason you have given for what you are doing on this forum. If you REALLY want and are just playing the 'you' and 'I' game where 'you' throw the ball and 'I' catch it, with and by the WRONG termed "your" 'self', then so be it. I accept that.

Also, and by the way, IF you REALLY do NOT desperately want to reveal some thing at all here, in this forum, then why do you NOT STOP saying the same things over and over again, here in this forum?
But I really really don't care about wrong or right termed selves.

I'm just fine playing with them both. I'm not really that picky about picking one side over the other side, and so just like you, I too am a retard disgusting braindead imbecile.
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Age wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:58 pm
Also, and by the way, IF you REALLY do NOT desperately want to reveal some thing at all here, in this forum, then why do you NOT STOP saying the same things over and over again, here in this forum?
Because I cannot stop what I am not starting...that's why.
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