The Existential Crisis

[Age]

Well I think we can conclude this little experiment. Looks like you are genuinely and irreparably insane, you aren't just making it up. Sucks for you I don't really understand though how delusions of this magnitude can happen, maybe people are dumber than I can comprehend.

Everything is an absolute expression of wholeness aka the infinite. Absolutely nothing needs to be added or taken away. Nothing is more valid or sacred than anything else. No condition need to be filled in order to become worthy. The infinite is unconditionally here, it IS all there is.

The delusion is believing there is an I who is being am. There is no I to be am. There is only the infinite in all it's expression, ever boundless, free, and appearing as every conceivable concept, sensation, feeling, and thought.

What is done to the self, the self that is believed to exist, is done to the whole self, so there's always just what's happening, there's just what's appearing from within it's own source, the only source there is, which is known as the physcial brain, the only source available, the only knowable source of all knowledge. . also known as consciousness, which is just another label for what in reality is the ever elusive mysterious unknowable that can never be described.

I hardly think the brain which is nothing more than a lump of fleshy meat substance knows of it's existence, in the same context the hair on the head has no idea it is brown, or black or blonde, or red.

So what is there here at the end of the day? ...there is here absolutely nothing but a fictional idea, a very huge one at that, probably the size of infinity itself.


Reality is happening, it's appearing as it is evidently sensed, but it's not happening or appearing to a 'someone'

You already know this, so there is no need for you to keep beating your shadow. You just need to let it go.

Yeah most of which has fuck all to do with what Age believes.

But I do NOT believe ANY thing.

Have you NOT been informed of this FACT, YET?

He/she is even more crazy than you, no spotlight here for DAM.

[Age]

Age replied to Dontaskme:

Could this 'Infinite' just be an 'I', and just a Being, being Its Self?

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Many theists believe in a God Who is a Person.

This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what I said, AND MEANT.

Within the concept that is DAM's usual interest and belief, God Who is a Person is part of the whole of existence itself same as all other concepts.

Well this is CERTAINLY NOT what I was referring to, AND ASKING?

[Belinda]

Age replied to Dontaskme:

Could this 'Infinite' just be an 'I', and just a Being, being Its Self?

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Many theists believe in a God Who is a Person.

This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what I said, AND MEANT.

Within the concept that is DAM's usual interest and belief, God Who is a Person is part of the whole of existence itself same as all other concepts.

Well this is CERTAINLY NOT what I was referring to, AND ASKING?

Sorry, I'll read and think again.

In the philosophical context 'reality' has two main meanings. One is Dontaskme's which is best described as a wholistic form of idealism. I think Schopenhauer is the western supporter of this Eastern theory of existence.

The other other main meaning of 'reality' is phenomenal i.e. it's what is experienced by each experiencing subject and nothing else.

[Atla]

WHY do 'you' propose it "sucks for 'me'", AT ALL?

Did you forget that 'I' am "irreparably insane", to 'you'? And, in case 'you' are NOT YET aware being "insane" MEANS that it does NOT "suck for me".



What "delusions of this magnitude" EXACTLY?

Or, are you incapable of CLARIFYING this very simple question, just like you were with ALL of the other VERY SIMPLE clarifying questions posed to you?

Denying anything you said before still won't save you.

But I am NOT denying anything that I have actually said.

I am just asking you to CLARIFY what 'it' is that you are talking about.

You have only proven that you are the one incapable of such things, especially provide any evidence for your claims.

But I have ALREADY informed you that I am NOT here, in this forum, to provide evidence for my claims, unless of course it is specifically asked for.

Anyway I'm not the one you have to convince about anything, but people in your real life (in the unlikely case that there are any).

But you have concluded that I am "insane". Therefore, I would NOT have a 'real' life, correct?

Also, the VERY LAST thing that I want to do is to convince you, nor anyone "else", of absolutely ANY thing.

You are certainly old enough to be able to think, and see things, for and by 'your' own 'self'.

Repeating the same lies won't help you either. People aren't as blind as you pretend.

[Atla]

Everything is an absolute expression of wholeness aka the infinite. Absolutely nothing needs to be added or taken away. Nothing is more valid or sacred than anything else. No condition need to be filled in order to become worthy. The infinite is unconditionally here, it IS all there is.

The delusion is believing there is an I who is being am. There is no I to be am. There is only the infinite in all it's expression, ever boundless, free, and appearing as every conceivable concept, sensation, feeling, and thought.

What is done to the self, the self that is believed to exist, is done to the whole self, so there's always just what's happening, there's just what's appearing from within it's own source, the only source there is, which is known as the physcial brain, the only source available, the only knowable source of all knowledge. . also known as consciousness, which is just another label for what in reality is the ever elusive mysterious unknowable that can never be described.

I hardly think the brain which is nothing more than a lump of fleshy meat substance knows of it's existence, in the same context the hair on the head has no idea it is brown, or black or blonde, or red.

So what is there here at the end of the day? ...there is here absolutely nothing but a fictional idea, a very huge one at that, probably the size of infinity itself.


Reality is happening, it's appearing as it is evidently sensed, but it's not happening or appearing to a 'someone'

You already know this, so there is no need for you to keep beating your shadow. You just need to let it go.

Yeah most of which has fuck all to do with what Age believes.

But I do NOT believe ANY thing.

Have you NOT been informed of this FACT, YET?

He/she is even more crazy than you, no spotlight here for DAM.

Repeating this lie won't help you either. Calling it a fact which is also a lie won't help you either.

[Age]

Denying anything you said before still won't save you.

But I am NOT denying anything that I have actually said.

I am just asking you to CLARIFY what 'it' is that you are talking about.

You have only proven that you are the one incapable of such things, especially provide any evidence for your claims.

But I have ALREADY informed you that I am NOT here, in this forum, to provide evidence for my claims, unless of course it is specifically asked for.

Anyway I'm not the one you have to convince about anything, but people in your real life (in the unlikely case that there are any).

But you have concluded that I am "insane". Therefore, I would NOT have a 'real' life, correct?

Also, the VERY LAST thing that I want to do is to convince you, nor anyone "else", of absolutely ANY thing.

You are certainly old enough to be able to think, and see things, for and by 'your' own 'self'.

Repeating the same lies won't help you either. People aren't as blind as you pretend.

But there are NO lies. Well NONE that you could prove.

[Age]

Yeah most of which has fuck all to do with what Age believes.

But I do NOT believe ANY thing.

Have you NOT been informed of this FACT, YET?

He/she is even more crazy than you, no spotlight here for DAM.

Repeating this lie won't help you either. Calling it a fact which is also a lie won't help you either.

If 'you' BELIEVE that 'I' believe some thing, then what is 'it' EXACTLY, which 'you' BELIEVE 'I' believe?

But it is a FACT, which you obviously can NOT disprove. If you could, then, obviously by your tone, you would have ALREADY. You have NOT ALREADY because you obviously can NOT. Unless, OF COURSE, you now PROVE me WRONG.

If you do NOT prove me WRONG, then what does this REVEAL, about 'you'?

[surreptitious57]

Reality is simply that which exists but whether it is the right way for human beings to live is another matter entirely

So to you reality is relative to a human being correct ?

If yes then there are as many different realities as there are human beings which
by the way both reality AND a human being are evolving and thus changing things correct ?

External objective reality is a single but eternally changing reality from a Gods Eye perspective
Internal subjective realities are individual human interpretations of the external objective one

The internal subjective reality of Age is very interesting indeed - though every ones is absolutely unique
As an observer my own mind is primarily interested in how other minds such as his think the way they do

What exactly do you mean by the word minds ? I mean all the words here on the forum and the words and thoughts of human beings in general
I dont usually ask myself questions as they are superfluous and I dont have the mental energy but Age would only ask me and so its to save time

[Atla]

But I am NOT denying anything that I have actually said.

I am just asking you to CLARIFY what 'it' is that you are talking about.



But I have ALREADY informed you that I am NOT here, in this forum, to provide evidence for my claims, unless of course it is specifically asked for.



But you have concluded that I am "insane". Therefore, I would NOT have a 'real' life, correct?

Also, the VERY LAST thing that I want to do is to convince you, nor anyone "else", of absolutely ANY thing.

You are certainly old enough to be able to think, and see things, for and by 'your' own 'self'.

Repeating the same lies won't help you either. People aren't as blind as you pretend.

But there are NO lies. Well NONE that you could prove.

Ehh your lies are obvious to most people, in case you didn't know this.

[Atla]

But I do NOT believe ANY thing.

Have you NOT been informed of this FACT, YET?

Repeating this lie won't help you either. Calling it a fact which is also a lie won't help you either.

If 'you' BELIEVE that 'I' believe some thing, then what is 'it' EXACTLY, which 'you' BELIEVE 'I' believe?

But it is a FACT, which you obviously can NOT disprove. If you could, then, obviously by your tone, you would have ALREADY. You have NOT ALREADY because you obviously can NOT. Unless, OF COURSE, you now PROVE me WRONG.

If you do NOT prove me WRONG, then what does this REVEAL, about 'you'?

I have already proven you wrong, you just lie about it. What does this tell about you?

[Age]

Repeating the same lies won't help you either. People aren't as blind as you pretend.

But there are NO lies. Well NONE that you could prove.

Ehh your lies are obvious to most people, in case you didn't know this.

But there are still NONE that you can prove, correct?

[Age]

Repeating this lie won't help you either. Calling it a fact which is also a lie won't help you either.

If 'you' BELIEVE that 'I' believe some thing, then what is 'it' EXACTLY, which 'you' BELIEVE 'I' believe?

But it is a FACT, which you obviously can NOT disprove. If you could, then, obviously by your tone, you would have ALREADY. You have NOT ALREADY because you obviously can NOT. Unless, OF COURSE, you now PROVE me WRONG.

If you do NOT prove me WRONG, then what does this REVEAL, about 'you'?

I have already proven you wrong, you just lie about it. What does this tell about you?

WHERE and WHEN have you, supposedly, proven me wrong? What you have proven to "your" own 'self', which is in that body only, is NOT actually PROVEN. That is just what 'you' BELIEVE is true.

And, what am I supposedly lying about, this time?

What 'you', "atla", BELIEVE is true, which you are YET to prove, does NOT say ANY thing about 'me' actually.

[Age]

Reality is simply that which exists but whether it is the right way for human beings to live is another matter entirely

So to you reality is relative to a human being correct ?

If yes then there are as many different realities as there are human beings which
by the way both reality AND a human being are evolving and thus changing things correct ?

External objective reality is a single but eternally changing reality from a Gods Eye perspective
Internal subjective realities are individual human interpretations of the external objective one

Okay. I just distinguish between the two by using the word 'Reality' for the former one, and, the word 'reality' for the latter. I find this much quicker, simpler, and easier to explain.

Oh, and by the way, Reality, or your external objective reality from a God's Eye perspective. IS, and is KNOWN by, what EVERY one agrees with.

The internal subjective reality of Age is very interesting indeed - though every ones is absolutely unique
As an observer my own mind is primarily interested in how other minds such as his think the way they do

I can NOT help you there. This is because, to me, there are NO "other minds", although this is obviously very contrary to the popular belief, in the day and age when this is being written. But I can explain to you exactly how the thoughts within this body came about, and thus also explain the way 'thinking', itself, is the way it is, in every body.

The One and ONLY Mind does NOT think. Human thoughts, and thus this thinking, itself is held, or comes from, within the human body itself, and maybe more specifically the human brain. Now, each and everybody has differing thoughts. The reason WHY every, human, body 'thinks' the way that they ALL do IS solely because every body, literally, has had different experiences. Thoughts can ONLY come from experiences.

What exactly do you mean by the word minds ? I mean all the words here on the forum and the words and thoughts of human beings in general
I dont usually ask myself questions as they are superfluous and I dont have the mental energy but Age would only ask me and so its to save time

But WHY did 'you' make the ASSUMPTION that 'i' was going to ask that question?

I was NOT going to ask that question at all, this time. But I was going to ask you was; Who and/or what is the 'my' in the phrase "my own mind"?

By the way 'words', themselves, literally are the thoughts from within human bodies. And, in fact, 'thoughts (and emotions'), themselves, are the being part in the words 'human being'.

[Atla]

But there are NO lies. Well NONE that you could prove.

Ehh your lies are obvious to most people, in case you didn't know this.

But there are still NONE that you can prove, correct?

Already have, lying won't help.

[Atla]

If 'you' BELIEVE that 'I' believe some thing, then what is 'it' EXACTLY, which 'you' BELIEVE 'I' believe?

But it is a FACT, which you obviously can NOT disprove. If you could, then, obviously by your tone, you would have ALREADY. You have NOT ALREADY because you obviously can NOT. Unless, OF COURSE, you now PROVE me WRONG.

If you do NOT prove me WRONG, then what does this REVEAL, about 'you'?

I have already proven you wrong, you just lie about it. What does this tell about you?

WHERE and WHEN have you, supposedly, proven me wrong? What you have proven to "your" own 'self', which is in that body only, is NOT actually PROVEN. That is just what 'you' BELIEVE is true.

And, what am I supposedly lying about, this time?

What 'you', "atla", BELIEVE is true, which you are YET to prove, does NOT say ANY thing about 'me' actually.

No one cares about you pretending to have amnesia and projecting