Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

[uwot]

The answer to the question "Is X flat?" is 1 bit of information (by definition). Whether you answer Yes or No.

That's one definition, but it's not what I mean in this context. Information is simply anything that is true about the universe - any ripple in the fabric of spacetime, to use that model.

The default answer to "Is X flat?" prior to measurement/information is "I don't know".

Yeah, that's the default prior to any measurement.

All that is ever observable is the effects. Big Bang? God did it!

Yep, that's one hypothesis. How do you measure it?

The fact is that every scientific concept (energy, mass etc.) suffers from a "God of the gaps" argument.

Not if you're an instrumentalist.

If a better, more complete model comes along which explains what "gravity" explains and more then Gravity goes away. Like God.

Gravity is whatever makes things fall to Earth and celestial bodies go round each other. It will go away when those things stop happening.

ALL mathematical language is either consistent or complete.You can't have both - you need to choose one.

Phooey to maths. It's epistemology, not ontology.

[Eodnhoj7]

You Are A Twit

It claims it in scripture, the verse relative to divorce stating "because of the hardness of their hearts" observes morality as a process of continual revelation, this is further seen in the evolution of leviticus from genesis.

Morality evolves.

On what moral code does your atheism rest, considering atheism has no moral code? You cannot claim something is immoral unless there is a moral code to follow, atheism does not address any moral system without paradoxically deifying something or someone.

God is immutable. His morality cannot evolve. That would be illogical
Logic does not evolve; it is either logical or not.
Make up your mind.

False. The law is immutable but its expression occurs relative to time. As the verse above pointed out, divorce was always wrong but the law was reveal in accords to people's ability to observe it.


As to logic evolving the progression of logic through history observes this.

[Sculptor]

As to logic evolving the progression of logic through history observes this.[/color]

You are illogical.

[Eodnhoj7]

As to logic evolving the progression of logic through history observes this.[/color]

You are illogical.

Define logic then .

1. One constant morality exists as transcendent above time and space.

2. This morality is expressed in portions across time and space through evolution.

3. Evolution is the approximation of one constant moral system, as expressed in many parts across time and space. Evolution is approximation of the one through the many.

[Sculptor]

As to logic evolving the progression of logic through history observes this.[/color]

You are illogical.

Define logic then .

1. One constant morality exists as transcendent above time and space.

Absolutely absurd nonsense.

2. This morality is expressed in portions across time and space through evolution.

Absolutely absurd nonsense.
No it is of rather recent invention by humanity. It is various, multiplicious and often contradictory.
So much is evident.

3. Evolution is the approximation of one constant moral system, as expressed in many parts across time and space. Evolution is approximation of the one through the many.

Total croc of crapology

[Eodnhoj7]

You are illogical.

Define logic then .

1. One constant morality exists as transcendent above time and space.

Absolutely absurd nonsense.

2. This morality is expressed in portions across time and space through evolution.

Absolutely absurd nonsense.
No it is of rather recent invention by humanity. It is various, multiplicious and often contradictory.
So much is evident.

3. Evolution is the approximation of one constant moral system, as expressed in many parts across time and space. Evolution is approximation of the one through the many.

Total croc of crapology

What is logic if you know what is illogical?

Nonsense fallacy to the rest.

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[Sculptor]

Define logic then .

1. One constant morality exists as transcendent above time and space.

Absolutely absurd nonsense.

2. This morality is expressed in portions across time and space through evolution.

Absolutely absurd nonsense.
No it is of rather recent invention by humanity. It is various, multiplicious and often contradictory.
So much is evident.

3. Evolution is the approximation of one constant moral system, as expressed in many parts across time and space. Evolution is approximation of the one through the many.

Total croc of crapology

What is logic if you know what is illogical?

Nonsense fallacy to the rest.

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How logical is it of you assert that there exists such a thing as morality where it is impossible to very with any empirical reality?
You are seriously self deluded.
You are nothing but nonsense. Your assertions are literally nonsense.

[Eodnhoj7]

Absolutely absurd nonsense.

Absolutely absurd nonsense.
No it is of rather recent invention by humanity. It is various, multiplicious and often contradictory.
So much is evident.


Total croc of crapology

What is logic if you know what is illogical?

Nonsense fallacy to the rest.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=27886

How logical is it of you assert that there exists such a thing as morality where it is impossible to very with any empirical reality?
You are seriously self deluded.
You are nothing but nonsense. Your assertions are literally nonsense.

The majority of empirical reality is an abstraction through the facets of thought and memory. What we understand of reality is a perpetual "now" which is aligned in accords with this very same thought and memory. What we deem as empirical is built upon abstractions.

If there is no morality then to negate morality is to require some definition, that always must be negated, that exists along a continuum. As self assumed, along a continuum of definitions, it is grounded by it's very nature of self assumption, in a reciprocal nature.

Now tell me....what is logic?

[attofishpi]

You are a sneaky horrible little twat

Oh the relief - for a minute there I thought you'd lower yourself to call me a dishonourable coward.

[Sculptor]

What is logic if you know what is illogical?

Nonsense fallacy to the rest.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=27886

How logical is it of you assert that there exists such a thing as morality where it is impossible to very with any empirical reality?
You are seriously self deluded.
You are nothing but nonsense. Your assertions are literally nonsense.

The majority of empirical reality is an abstraction through the facets of thought and memory. What we understand of reality is a perpetual "now" which is aligned in accords with this very same thought and memory. What we deem as empirical is built upon abstractions.

If there is no morality then to negate morality is to require some definition, that always must be negated, that exists along a continuum. As self assumed, along a continuum of definitions, it is grounded by it's very nature of self assumption, in a reciprocal nature.

Now tell me....what is logic?

You are contradicting yourself. On the one hand you undermine empirical observation as just inner construction; but you still pretend that morals are out there.
I see you are struggling with reality.
Are you seeing anyone about your delusions?

[attofishpi]

Are you seeing anyone about your delusions?

Probably a short sighted atheist (my most rational conclusion).

[attofishpi]

It's fun to watch them crash into walls of their own making!

R U gonna bite or R U gonna bark all day?

[Sculptor]

It's fun to watch them crash into walls of their own making!

R U gonna bite or R U gonna bark all day?

I'm just having lots of fun.

[attofishpi]

It's fun to watch them crash into walls of their own making!

R U gonna bite or R U gonna bark all day?

I'm just having lots of fun.

So am I.

Isn't life a great tease though?

Certainly life has many a short coming if one's own thoughts R NOT challenged..

I do intend to scalp the sculptor - so eat from the tree of wisdom - precisely what is illogical about Christianity?

[Sculptor]

... - precisely what is illogical about Christianity?

EVERYTHING is illogical about Christianity.
I think my list of what is illogical is much bigger than anything you have that suggests it is logical.
SO why not answer my question?

Whilst you muse here is a small list of things that make Christianity illogical. It is not an exhaustive list, just a few things to go on...

Illogical Christianity.

1 Loving God promises barbaric punishments.
2. Death bed confessions allow maniacs like Ted Bundy and Adolf Hitler to get to heaven.
3. God of the OT is basically dispensing genocide, disease, and famine on the unworthy.
4. How is Jesus' sacrifice logical? How can one person die for another's sins?
5. As long as you believe you seem to be able to act as you will. Absurd!
6. Infants get a free ticket to heaven. Why not just kill your child to save them from hell, then ask for forgiveness?
7. Christians seem to insist that life begins at conception. How come God keeps aborting kids with natural miscarriages (estimated at 25% of all pregnancies)?
8. Why are there no miracles to solve the world's starvation? Seem to be plenty in biblical times?
9. How can Christian claim the NT is the word of God when there are so many contradictions.
10. Prayer is inherently illogical with an omnipotent, omniscient god. Think about it!
11. Bible condones slavery.
12.Christianity accepts homosexuality yet it is condemned as an abomination in the Bible.
13. Women? Need I say more?
14. God's basic ignorance of science in his WORD>
15. One God, yet a multitude of secular interests and splinter groups willing to fight each other. Millions have died because of spliting.

16. What the 10 commandments COULD have done:
No proscription of slavery
No proscription of child endangerment
No proscription of bigotry
No proscription of racism
No proscription of sexism
No proscription of classism
No proscription of blackmail or bribery
No proscription of discrimination against LGBTQ persons
No proscription of incest
No proscription of torture or terrorism
No proscription of rape
No proscription against the mistreatment, exploitation, and relocation of native populations
No command to treat animals humanely
No command to take care of the Earth’s environment
No command to help others in need
No command to settle disputes peacefully
No command to distribute the Earth’s resources fairly.