Why Christianity May Be the Most Logical Religion.

[Sculptor]

I read through the list and then realized even if I pointed out a verse or contradiction in the above it would be useless as you are lying or ignorant. On one hand you are condemning God as barbaric then condemning him for being too merciful....as well as a whole list of illogical (as in disconnected assertions) on top of it.

You really don't get it do you?
I did not write the fucking scriptures. Nor apparently read them.

I don't give a rat's arse if god is merciful or barbaric. I don't think there is a god. I'm just saying what is IN the scriptures.
Are you really that stupid?

That is my point, the scriptures flat out state against many of the things on the list. For example incest is covered in: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest_in_the_Bible.

Man's stewardship over the earth is presented in Genesis.

And as to omniscience and prayer, a prayer could not be answered ahead of time unless it was first asked. Omniscience still requires man to commit his part. Omniscience allows for retrocausality where the future affects the past (alludes to quantum mechanics): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrocausality

You are deluded.
We are still waiting for you to support your absurd assertion that Xity is "logical".
You have advanced your case ZERO.
We can trade scriptures all day, but you seem to have never opened either the OT or the NT.

[Sculptor]

I AM WELL PREPARED TO BLOW IN YOUR BIMBO FACE 5 GOOD ONES.

Spoken like a true Christian!!!!

Part of the fun of playing on this stage is to watch pompous people disrobe themselves if you tug at their superficial garments enough. Atto's comment was so classic, not only in revealing his true nature and lack of self-mastery, but also in demonstrating his twisted and disgusting male arrogance. A real GEM response, that was! My efforts were rewarded with the kind of truthfulness from him that is far more valuable than the nonsense game he would have played in providing the 5 logical examples.

It's fun to watch them crash into walls of their own making!

[Eodnhoj7]

You really don't get it do you?
I did not write the fucking scriptures. Nor apparently read them.

I don't give a rat's arse if god is merciful or barbaric. I don't think there is a god. I'm just saying what is IN the scriptures.
Are you really that stupid?

That is my point, the scriptures flat out state against many of the things on the list. For example incest is covered in: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest_in_the_Bible.

Man's stewardship over the earth is presented in Genesis.

And as to omniscience and prayer, a prayer could not be answered ahead of time unless it was first asked. Omniscience still requires man to commit his part. Omniscience allows for retrocausality where the future affects the past (alludes to quantum mechanics): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrocausality

You are deluded.
We are still waiting for you to support your absurd assertion that Xity is "logical".
You have advanced your case ZERO.
We can trade scriptures all day, but you seem to have never opened either the OT or the NT.

Still waiting for you to open up the link about incest and then stating how scripture never addresses it.

As to the logic, it has already been addressed.

Hegelian synthesis.

As to your stated bias, which you claim, why should I expect a logical argument from you?

[Eodnhoj7]

Spoken like a true Christian!!!!

Part of the fun of playing on this stage is to watch pompous people disrobe themselves if you tug at their superficial garments enough. Atto's comment was so classic, not only in revealing his true nature and lack of self-mastery, but also in demonstrating his twisted and disgusting male arrogance. A real GEM response, that was! My efforts were rewarded with the kind of truthfulness from him that is far more valuable than the nonsense game he would have played in providing the 5 logical examples.

It's fun to watch them crash into walls of their own making!

You mean the wall where you claim scripture should have addressed incest but doesn't...and the link proving otherwise? Or retrocausality/quantum mechanics and its relation to omnipresent.

Face it, atheism is an opioid for you.

[attofishpi]

Part of the fun of playing on this stage is to watch pompous people disrobe themselves if you tug at their superficial garments enough. Atto's comment was so classic, not only in revealing his true nature and lack of self-mastery, but also in demonstrating his twisted and disgusting male arrogance. A real GEM response, that was! My efforts were rewarded with the kind of truthfulness from him that is far more valuable than the nonsense game he would have played in providing the 5 logical examples.

Let's put things back into perspective, and the reason U R a BIMBO:-

1. A couple of years ago you created a thread just to say you were leaving the forum...like anyone should give a flying fuck about you leaving! here have one of those stupid emotis that bimbos like you rely on-->

Then you came back!!


2. When I asked for you to explain what you claim is illogical about Christianity - you post a pile of statements without a modicum of logic as to how those statements render Christianity illogical.


3. You call me at the outset a dishonourable coward - when ALL I asked was for you to explain point 2.

Here, have another go you hypocritical bimbo:-

Illogical beliefs:
1) That a god would have a gender

My belief is that Christ was God incarnate. What is illogical about God having a gender?

2) That human man would be in the god's likeness

God formed himself as a man - as per point 1) In other words, God was quite happy with the design of the human form for itself and therefore formed US in that same form - what is illogical?

3) That gods have varied across history and beliefs, but each religion believes theirs to be the one and only true interpretation

So what is illogical?

4) That a god would create humans, watch them suffer, command them to be good, and threaten them if they aren't

So what? Much of human suffering is man causing it to other men. What is illogical?

5) That a god's words are written in a book through countless interpretations

So what is illogical?

Here's a bonus one: The belief that when Christians "win", it was god's will/work... and when they don't, it's because of something "else", not god.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

[Sculptor]

That is my point, the scriptures flat out state against many of the things on the list. For example incest is covered in: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest_in_the_Bible.

Man's stewardship over the earth is presented in Genesis.

And as to omniscience and prayer, a prayer could not be answered ahead of time unless it was first asked. Omniscience still requires man to commit his part. Omniscience allows for retrocausality where the future affects the past (alludes to quantum mechanics): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrocausality

You are deluded.
We are still waiting for you to support your absurd assertion that Xity is "logical".
You have advanced your case ZERO.
We can trade scriptures all day, but you seem to have never opened either the OT or the NT.

Still waiting for you to open up the link about incest and then stating how scripture never addresses it.

I said the commandments did not address it. The Scripture both supports incest and rejects it.

As to the logic, it has already been addressed.

Hegelian synthesis.

ROLF

As to your stated bias, which you claim, why should I expect a logical argument from you?

I do not profess any particular argument. I have, however, demonstrated clearly the ILLOGICALITY of Christianity.
It is your job to show how it is logical, which you have failed miserably to do.

[Eodnhoj7]

You are deluded.
We are still waiting for you to support your absurd assertion that Xity is "logical".
You have advanced your case ZERO.
We can trade scriptures all day, but you seem to have never opened either the OT or the NT.

Still waiting for you to open up the link about incest and then stating how scripture never addresses it.

I said the commandments did not address it. The Scripture both supports incest and rejects it.

Source please. The prohibition of incest falls under the prohibition of adultery by definition.

As to the logic, it has already been addressed.

Hegelian synthesis.

ROLF

If you disagree, explain why, I presented my argument above.

As to your stated bias, which you claim, why should I expect a logical argument from you?

I do not profess any particular argument. I have, however, demonstrated clearly the ILLOGICALITY of Christianity.
Actually you haven't you made assertions.

It is your job to show how it is logical, which you have failed miserably to do.

First tell me what logic is by your definition, as you claimed what logic is not without explanation why. You made assertions, stated they were illogical, with no reason why. I explained already my stance.

[Sculptor]

I said the commandments did not address it. The Scripture both supports incest and rejects it.

Source please. The prohibition of incest falls under the prohibition of adultery by definition.

FFS. Incest in NOT the same as adultery FFS.
Read a fucking dictionary!

The Bible supports INCEST.
Examples.
Abraham married his half sister, Sarah. (Sarah and Abraham had the same father, Terah.) But God didn't mind. He blessed their union, her "a mother of nations."
And yet indeed, she [Sarah] is my [Abraham's] sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife. Genesis 20:12
And I will bless her [Sarah], and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her. Genesis 17:16

Moses and Aaron were the products of an incestuous marriage. (Their father, Amram, married his sister, Jochebed.)
And Amram took him Jochebed his father's sister to wife; and she bare him Aaron and Moses. Exodus 6:20
And Lot impregnated his daughters, while remaining just and righteous.
Lot ... and his two daughters ... dwelt in a cave. ... And the firstborn said unto the younger ... let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. Genesis 19:30-36
... just Lot ... that righteous man. 2 Peter 2:7-8

Bible Rejects Incest

And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a wicked thing. Leviticus 20:17

And thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister, nor of thy father's sister: for he uncovereth his near kin: they shall bear their iniquity. Leviticus 20:19

Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother. Deuteronomy 27:22


Christianity condones and condemns incest.
It holds two mutually incompatible positions.
QED It is an illogical religion.

[Sculptor]

Part of the fun of playing on this stage is to watch pompous people disrobe themselves if you tug at their superficial garments enough. Atto's comment was so classic, not only in revealing his true nature and lack of self-mastery, but also in demonstrating his twisted and disgusting male arrogance. A real GEM response, that was! My efforts were rewarded with the kind of truthfulness from him that is far more valuable than the nonsense game he would have played in providing the 5 logical examples.

Let's put things back into perspective, and the reason U R a BIMBO:-

Fish Fingers is such a good christian!!!

[Eodnhoj7]

I said the commandments did not address it. The Scripture both supports incest and rejects it.

Source please. The prohibition of incest falls under the prohibition of adultery by definition.

FFS. Incest in NOT the same as adultery FFS.
Read a fucking dictionary!

It is a subcategory under sexual relations.

The Bible supports INCEST.
Examples.
Abraham married his half sister, Sarah. (Sarah and Abraham had the same father, Terah.) But God didn't mind. He blessed their union, her "a mother of nations."
And yet indeed, she [Sarah] is my [Abraham's] sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife. Genesis 20:12
And I will bless her [Sarah], and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her. Genesis 17:16

The law evolved in revelation due to the "hardness of their hearts"
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical ... le-verses/ relative to sexual relations as the law of divorce and incest occurred after these actions, as evidenced by the nature of leviticus occuring after genesis as well as Jesus's commands on divorce.

The law is revealed in accords for man's ability to comply with it. Thus the new Testament was a revelation of an underlying moral code revealed in accords with man's ability to fathom it, for with the law follows judgement. While the law exists God, through the intermediary nature of Christ, is not anxious to pass judgement.

Morality evolves according to revelation. Keep in mind, that during these times Pagans practiced incest as well, Egpytians if memory serves, thus the law was a revelation according to what the people could handle.


Moses and Aaron were the products of an incestuous marriage. (Their father, Amram, married his sister, Jochebed.)
And Amram took him Jochebed his father's sister to wife; and she bare him Aaron and Moses. Exodus 6:20
And Lot impregnated his daughters, while remaining just and righteous.
Lot ... and his two daughters ... dwelt in a cave. ... And the firstborn said unto the younger ... let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. Genesis 19:30-36
... just Lot ... that righteous man. 2 Peter 2:7-8

Bible Rejects Incest

And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a wicked thing. Leviticus 20:17

And thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister, nor of thy father's sister: for he uncovereth his near kin: they shall bear their iniquity. Leviticus 20:19

Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother. Deuteronomy 27:22


Christianity condones and condemns incest.
It holds two mutually incompatible positions.
QED It is an illogical religion.

See above, morality variates according to a timeline as the law is a process of revelation. Morality is evolutionary.

[Sculptor]

See above, morality variates according to a timeline as the law is a process of revelation. Morality is evolutionary.

You Are A Twit

[Eodnhoj7]

See above, morality variates according to a timeline as the law is a process of revelation. Morality is evolutionary.

You Are A Twit

It claims it in scripture, the verse relative to divorce stating "because of the hardness of their hearts" observes morality as a process of continual revelation, this is further seen in the evolution of leviticus from genesis.

Morality evolves.

On what moral code does your atheism rest, considering atheism has no moral code? You cannot claim something is immoral unless there is a moral code to follow, atheism does not address any moral system without paradoxically deifying something or someone.

[attofishpi]

Part of the fun of playing on this stage is to watch pompous people disrobe themselves if you tug at their superficial garments enough. Atto's comment was so classic, not only in revealing his true nature and lack of self-mastery, but also in demonstrating his twisted and disgusting male arrogance. A real GEM response, that was! My efforts were rewarded with the kind of truthfulness from him that is far more valuable than the nonsense game he would have played in providing the 5 logical examples.

Let's put things back into perspective, and the reason U R a BIMBO:-

Fish Fingers is such a good christian!!!

Well of course I am.

I provided the reason why Lacewing is a bimbo - if I didn't I wouldn't be a 'good' Christian - hopefully she will learn from it...and de-bimbocise herself.

The fact that she called me at the outset a dishonourable coward - when my sage has confirmed to me that I did indeed suffer more than Christ - I challenged the fuck out of God and its wrath - foolish perhaps - cowardly no.

[Sculptor]

See above, morality variates according to a timeline as the law is a process of revelation. Morality is evolutionary.

You Are A Twit

It claims it in scripture, the verse relative to divorce stating "because of the hardness of their hearts" observes morality as a process of continual revelation, this is further seen in the evolution of leviticus from genesis.

Morality evolves.

On what moral code does your atheism rest, considering atheism has no moral code? You cannot claim something is immoral unless there is a moral code to follow, atheism does not address any moral system without paradoxically deifying something or someone.

God is immutable. His morality cannot evolve. That would be illogical
Logic does not evolve; it is either logical or not.
Make up your mind.

[Sculptor]

Let's put things back into perspective, and the reason U R a BIMBO:-

Fish Fingers is such a good christian!!!

Well of course I am.

I provided the reason why Lacewing is a bimbo -

You are a sneaky horrible little twat; that is being a good Xian?