What is the highest principle?

Should you think about your duty, or about the consequences of your actions? Or should you concentrate on becoming a good person?

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henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:31 pm don't forget peacock
Nah, I get to self-define.

That's your label, not mine.
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Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:31 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:30 pm no, slippery fish, my seat is far too hard for you...stay in the water
You must be trying to catch me if you think I am slippery.
no, small fry aren't interestin' 'cept as they swim in bowels and nibble at food on the surface

they all end up in the same place: swirlin' down

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Nah, I get to self-define.

yep

That's your label, not mine.

yep, which I'll apply as I like
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henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:36 pm yep, which I'll apply as I like
That's the spirit. Don't pretend you care about "reality" or some such bullshit

All arguments are smoke screens for our desires ;)
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Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:42 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:36 pm yep, which I'll apply as I like
That's the spirit. Don't pretend you care about "reality" or some such bullshit

All arguments are smoke screens for our desires ;)
I don't care for anti-realism (slipperyfish-ism)

my positions are blocks of granite

'nuff said
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henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:48 pm my positions are blocks of granite
Yes, dogmatic.

We know that :)
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Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:51 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:48 pm my positions are blocks of granite
Yes, dogmatic.

We know that :)
solid & real & sane
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henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:58 pm
Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:51 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:48 pm my positions are blocks of granite
Yes, dogmatic.

We know that :)
solid & real & sane
Dogmatic, irrational and self-deluded.

Saw it, recognized it, named ;)
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Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:59 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:58 pm
Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:51 pm
Yes, dogmatic.

We know that :)
solid & real & sane
Dogmatic, irrational and self-deluded.

Saw it, recognized it, named ;)
finally, he gets categorizin'
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henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:02 pm finally, he gets categorizin'
Too bad you don't grok that an infinite number of categorization-schemes are possible!

Infinite labels. All of them correct.
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Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:32 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:02 pm finally, he gets categorizin'
Too bad you don't grok that an infinite number of categorization-schemes are possible!

Infinite labels. All of them correct.
Nope.

For example: there aren't 52 or 74 or 103 genders. There's just 2.

You can create 52 or 74 or 103, but, unless you're writin' fiction or craftin' a thought experiment, it's overkill and hooey, cuz there's only 2 to recognize.
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henry quirk wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:01 am Nope.

For example: there aren't 52 or 74 or 103 genders. There's just 2.

You can create 52 or 74 or 103, but, unless you're writin' fiction or craftin' a thought experiment, it's overkill and hooey, cuz there's only 2 to recognize.
Henry,

I recognized 8 billion genders.

Your recogniser must be broken.
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Skepdick wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:04 am
henry quirk wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:01 am Nope.

For example: there aren't 52 or 74 or 103 genders. There's just 2.

You can create 52 or 74 or 103, but, unless you're writin' fiction or craftin' a thought experiment, it's overkill and hooey, cuz there's only 2 to recognize.
Henry,

I recognized 8 billion genders.
good on you

must not have a lotta free time (or, mebbe, you have too much)

either way: 👍🏻
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henry quirk wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:14 am good on you

must not have a lotta free time (or, mebbe, you have too much)

either way: 👍🏻
Sure. I got time.

Need help fixin' your recognizer?
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Skepdick wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:16 am
henry quirk wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:14 am good on you

must not have a lotta free time (or, mebbe, you have too much)

either way: 👍🏻
Sure. I got time.

Need help fixin' your recognizer?
nah, I'm good
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henry quirk wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:04 pm
RCSaunders wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:18 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:57 pm A poster, elsewhere, sez: I am pretty sure the highest principle is "no harm". Morality.

What say you?
One thing wrong with that is that it is negative. An ultimate principle would have to be a positive, not what one must refrain from doing, but one must do to be doing right.

The second thing wrong with that is that it makes the ultimate principle, "social." That would mean the ultimate moral principle does not apply to how an individual lives his own life, only how he relates to others.

Both of those are wrong.
Yep.
I second that.
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