What is the highest principle?

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Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:32 pm Done. Self-contradiction.
Another lie. Do you even know what a contradiction is?

There's only one proposition before you. A contradiction requires at least two.

You call yourself a Philosopher, but do you even care about Truth?
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Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:35 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:32 pm Done. Self-contradiction.
There's only one proposition before you. A contradiction requires at least two.
You are denying performatively what you say verbally. That's two, and that's self-contradiction.
Examples: using reasoning in an attempt to disprove reason, or using categories in order to deny categories, or using objective language claims to deny the objective referent possibilities of language.
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We saw "it", we recognized "it" - we called it Harry.

no, you came, got flummoxed, flailed about

it is what it is
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:38 pm You are denying performatively what you say verbally. That's two, and that's self-contradiction.

Examples: using reasoning in an attempt to disprove reason, or using categories in order to deny categories, or using objective language claims to deny the objective referent possibilities of language.
Yeah and? That's not self-contradiction. That's recursion. Contradictions don't exist, remember!

How can I contradict myself if contradictions don't exist?!?!? To contradict myself would mean that contradictions DO exist. DO contradictions exist, or don't they? How can anybody practice Philosophy with such incoherent foundation?!?

Computation. It's fact. It's true. It works. I keep demonstrating it. Over and over. It's science.

You don't like truth?
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Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:43 pm Contradictions don't exist, remember!
You do them, and claim they don't exist. Self-contradiction again.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:51 pm
Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:43 pm Contradictions don't exist, remember!
You do them, and claim they don't exist. Self-contradiction again.
So you DO admit that contradictions exist and they are real!

Why do you keep saying that they don't?!?!?

Surely, if you are going to pretend that contradictions don't exist when all the evidence is overwhelmingly against you, then YOU are participating in some kind of deluded anti-realism, and not me?!?
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Contradictions can be logical such as when two incompatible statements are stated as true
Something cannot be the negation of itself and so that is another example of contradiction

Contradictions obviously exist so therefore cannot be denied
There are also logical fallacies which are also contradictions
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surreptitious57 wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:03 pm Contradictions can be logical such as when two incompatible statements are stated as true
Something cannot be the negation of itself and so that is another example of contradiction

Contradictions obviously exist so therefore cannot be denied
There are also logical fallacies which are also contradictions
Contradictions signal state-change. Mutation. Bit-flip. Off-by-1 error.

That is HOW communication works. Moving 1 bit, 1 mutation, 1 contradiction from my head to your head.

That's all a contradiction ever was. The arrival of new information. A surprise.

If we couldn't contradict ourselves we wouldn't be able to communicate! Language would stop working.

Philosophy has been pursuing a false God for 2000+ years!
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Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:52 pm So you DO admit that contradictions exist and they are real!
I'm so bored with you.

Goodbye.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:09 pm I'm so bored with you.

Goodbye.
Q.E.D you aren't after truth. You are after self-amusement.

I think I am the only fucking Philosopher on this forum.
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Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:10 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:09 pm I'm so bored with you.

Goodbye.
Q.E.D you aren't after truth. You are after self-amusement.

I think I am the only fucking Philosopher on this forum.
that ain't nuthin' to be proud of

bein' a philosopher is no better than sniffin' bicycle seats
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henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:26 pm that ain't nuthin' to be proud of

bein' a philosopher is no better than sniffin' bicycle seats
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bit flip!

Mutability.

Henry takes my seat, I take his!

I think I am going to keep all my labels and put them in a memorabilia box: Scientist, Philosopher, Engineer, Human, Skepdick, Logik, TimeSeeker.
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Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:27 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:26 pm that ain't nuthin' to be proud of

bein' a philosopher is no better than sniffin' bicycle seats
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bit flip!

Mutability.

Henry takes my seat, I take his!
no, slippery fish, my seat is far too hard for you...stay in the water
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henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:30 pm no, slippery fish, my seat is far too hard for you...stay in the water
You must be trying to catch me if you think I am slippery.

But then you tell me to stay in the water.

You don't even know what you want.
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I think I am going to keep all my labels and put them in a memorabilia box: Scientist, Philosopher, Engineer, Human, Skepdick, Logik, TimeSeeker.

don't forget peacock
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