Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

[Dontaskme]

True master of self can prevent depressive cloud from entering their sky. Prevention is higher mastery than cure.

All these mental nutcases and schizophrenics, autistic and depressed people that society labels ....turns out there is nothing wrong with any of them.
They are the sanest people around.

There really is nothing wrong with us...except what belief puts there.

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[Logik]

All these mental nutcases and schizophrenics, autistic and depressed people that society labels ....turns out there is nothing wrong with any of them.
They are the sanest people around.

There really is nothing wrong with us...except what belief puts there.

Nobody ever said there's anything "wrong" with you.

The only concern of mental health practitioners is social integration.

You don't seem to integrate very well.

[Dontaskme]

Yes, you have the choice of ignoring yourself or not.
It's very empowering, hardly poor.

A CHOICE mind you?

Deciding between TWO things mind you?

Poor dualist.

No, there is nothing to stop what's happening, how can you stop yourself from happening...try unmaking yourself right now and see how far you get?

A depressive cloud is an abstract feeling...that can be ignored, it's called power of the mind, believe it's there and it will be, don't believe and it will vanish like a salamander in the midday sun.

So there is nothing to stop the cloud but something to ignore it.

*cough*Dualism*cough*

Yeah, it's called non-duality.

Didn't you know that?

[Logik]

Yeah, it's called non-duality.

Didn't you know that?

Dualism is called non-duality? So they are synonymous terms?

No. I didn't know that.

[Dontaskme]

Nobody ever said there's anything "wrong" with you.

The only concern of mental health practitioners is social integration.

I think I beg to differ, if there's nothing wrong, why are they being drugged to the eyeballs?

Stop drugging them, and intergrate with sense not using nonsensical dumbing down method until they turn into some kind of useless zombie.

Why heavily sedate people and cut them off like that...why, because it's easy to shut them up than to put any effort into reabilitating their temporary confused mind-sets.

They need help now, immediately, not be sedated and just be expected to just cope all on their own until the feelings pass with the help of a drug which actually makes things worse not better.

Yes, this is an excellent method of dealing with social integration...NOT!!

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[Dontaskme]

Yeah, it's called non-duality.

Didn't you know that?

Dualism is called non-duality? So they are synonymous terms?

No. I didn't know that.

Yes, synonymous it is...duality is all there is.

Duality is a mirror of itself....the mirror has nothing to reflect but itself...which appears as something to itself....that something is the nothing in the exact same instant. It's ONE not two...that it appear two is the illusion.

The ONE is not an illusion.

It's a divine paradox.

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[Logik]

I think I beg to differ, if there's nothing wrong, why are they being drugged to the eyeballs?

Because they accept the treatment? They can choose not to.

Alternative options are always available to everyone. But most people want immediate results.

Stop drugging them, and intergrate with sense not using nonsensical dumbing down method until they turn into some kind of useless zombie.

Economics. Anti-depressants work in 4-6 weeks. How long does it take to integrate a mind?

Why heavily sedate people and cut them off like that...why, because it's easy to shut them up than to put any effort into reabilitating their temporary confused mind-sets.

WE aren't doing anything of that sort. The option is there. They choose it.

The option is also there for them to take the medicine for period of X months. Stop taking it. And THEN make an informed choice can be made on whether to stay on or off it.

They need help now, immediately, not be sedated and just be expected to just cope all on their own until the feelings passes with the help of a drug which actually makes things worse not better.

I beg to differ. I was on SSRIs for anxiety for 8 months. It helped. RIGHT NOW.

Subsequently - I have chosen to stop taking them, but I they worked.

[Logik]

Yes, synonymous it is...duality is all there is.

Duality is a mirror of itself....the mirror has nothing to reflect but itself...which appears as something to itself....that something is the nothing in the exact same instant. It's ONE not two...that it appear two is the illusion.

The ONE is not an illusion.

It's a divine paradox.

Well done. You figured out that humans are a paradox.

How nice of you to finally arrive to the party. The rest of us have been focusing on the bigger picture while you were exploring yourself.

Wanna help with anything or are you just here to amuse yourself?

[Dontaskme]

I think I beg to differ, if there's nothing wrong, why are they being drugged to the eyeballs?

Because they accept the treatment? They can choose not to.

They accept because they trust their doctors professional advice...they are conditioned to beleive there is actually something wrong with them...that until they wake up and smell the roses, the strong minded ones can do this ...they can realise actually, there really is nothing wrong with me, so I'm just going to be a rebel now and not listen to the professionals and choose to think for myself, I'm not going to follow their advice, I'm going to go cold turkey and do this on my own without drugs...then again, the weaker minded ones will just be lost ...but it's all about choice at the end of the day...shall I learn to master myself, or not...the choice is there, waking up or staying asleep is a choice.

How long does it take to integrate a mind?

You've got to want to do it first...when you choose to do it, it depends on the person how long it takes, the power of the mind is within every human...it can take as long as it takes...life dictates it...and one will only wake up when life evolves that in the person and not one second before.

I beg to differ. I was on SSRIs for anxiety for 8 months. It helped. RIGHT NOW.

That's good for you, it worked for you....I tried drugs, but not for depression, for some other pain issue going on...they never ever worked for me, they are a mask, don't get to the root of the problem...so I went cold turkey and that worked for me better....Now I'm totally cured of all my obbsession to be sane, I'm free as a bird, totally insane and loving every waking minute of this insane asylum...because I've only got one foot in this looney bin, the other is up my arse.

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[Dontaskme]

Well done. You figured out that humans are a paradox.

I've always known it..I was actually born this way.

How nice of you to finally arrive to the party. The rest of us have been focusing on the bigger picture while you were exploring yourself.

I never left the party, I cannot leave myself. This self is here to stay. I stay, I cannot leave..The picture and the one looking at the picture are the same picture. Can I separate myself from myself? ...now that would be the mother of all magic.

Wanna help with anything or are you just here to amuse yourself?

Sorry, did you forget that I already told you that I am always amusing myself, and that my reflection is my only entertainment?

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[Logik]

They accept because they trust their doctors professional advice...they are conditioned to beleive there is actually something wrong with them...

You should probably take off your tinfoil hat. Nobody is talking about 'right' or 'wrong' here.

People go to doctors because they have symptoms they do not like/enjoy/want. Symptoms that are interfering with their lives.
If these symptoms were not a cause for concern for the patient they would have never sought professional advice in the first place.

There is NOTHING worse than a patient seeking help only to be told "there is nothing wrong with you - go home". That's fucking dismissive.

that until they wake up and smell the roses, the strong minded ones can do this ...they can realise actually, there really is nothing wrong with me, so I'm just going to be a rebel now and not listen to the professionals and choose to think for myself

And for as long you are able to function - you are free to do that.

, I'm not going to follow their advice, I'm going to go cold turkey and do this on my own without drugs...then again, the weaker minded ones will just be lost ...but it's all about choice at the end of the day...shall I learn to master myself, or not...the choice is there, waking up or staying asleep is a choice.

And yet SSRIs are proven to be effective at reducing anxiety and depression. And those who couldn't cope with the symptoms now have another option.

You've got to want to do it first...when you choose to do it, it depends on the person how long it takes, the power of the mind is within every human...it can take as long as it takes...life dictates it...and one will only wake up when life evolves that in the person and not one second before.

Cool story. So you can have results in 4-6 weeks with SSRIs, or "it will take as long as it takes" without.

Thanks for nothing. Captain Wisdom.

I tried drugs for some other pain issue going on...
so I went cold turkey and that worked for me better...

Listen to your crazy.
You were "cold turkey."
Then a pain happened.
Then you sought help that didn't help.
Then you wend cold turkey and it "worked" for you.

[Logik]

Yes, synonymous it is...duality is all there is.

So you admit that you don't actually understand non-duality.

Even though you accused others of the same.

[Dontaskme]

They accept because they trust their doctors professional advice...they are conditioned to beleive there is actually something wrong with them...

You should probably take off your tinfoil hat. Nobody is talking about 'right' or 'wrong' here.

People go to doctors because they have symptoms they do not like/enjoy/want. Symptoms that are interfering with their lives.
If these symptoms were not a cause for concern for the patient they would have never sought professional advice in the first place.

There is NOTHING worse than a patient seeking help only to be told "there is nothing wrong with you - go home". That's fucking dismissive.

Again, we seem to be lost in translation, your talking about physical symtoms. Whereas I'm talking about the mind and it's imaginary mental problems.

Yeah, by all means if you got a broken leg the medical practioner will fix that for you...but if you've got a probelm with your mind, no one can fix that only you...the one that believes it's got a mind.

Don't be a blockhead and think you can know what others are thinking...there are no others except what's in your mind, the one you think you have but haven't...




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[Dontaskme]

Yes, synonymous it is...duality is all there is.

So you admit that you don't actually understand non-duality.

Even though you accused others of the same.

The understanding comes when one aka no one realises there is nothing to understand.

That's called Non-duality...oh boy are you being thick.

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[Logik]

Again, we seem to be lost in translation, your talking about physical symtoms. Whereas I'm talking about the mind and it's imaginary mental problems.

No. I am not talking about "physical" symptoms. There are no such things when dealing with mental health. I am talking about people's self-reported discomfort/distress/unpleasant state of mind which impedes their daily function. For which they go out seeking help.

Nobody comes to your door knocking to diagnose you with a "mental problem". You go to doctors - seeking help.

If you don't need help - don't go!

Yeah, by all means if you got a broken leg the medical practioner will fix that for you...but if you've got a probelm with your mind, no one can fix that only you...the one that beleives it's got a mind.

And yet. SSRIs work for anxiety and depression.

D on't be a blockhead and think you can know what others are thinking...there are no others except what's in your mind, the one you think you have but haven't...

Your stupid borders on denialism and rejection of mental health issues. It's actually harmful.