Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:02 am
There comes a time when one just has to walk away from an irrational person.
The Aumann agreement theorem does not allow me to. I know and believe I can come to an agreement with anybody. Given enough time to unpack all the details.
Therefore I cannot walk away until we agree, or until you walk away.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:02 am
Try it sometimes, it's very enlightening.
I can choose who I was to discuss with and Lacewing is now off my list.
Get over it.
Of course you can. You are free to build an echo chamber to your liking. We all are.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:02 am
There comes a time when one just has to walk away from an irrational person.
The Aumann agreement theorem does not allow me to. I know and believe I can come to an agreement with anybody.
Therefore I cannot walk away until we agree, or until you walk away.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:02 am
Try it sometimes, it's very enlightening.
I can choose who I was to discuss with and Lacewing is now off my list.
Get over it.
Of course you can. You are free to build an echo chamber to your liking. We all are.
Only - most of us choose not to.
We are only ever talking to oursleves until we shut up and be silent...retreating to the ultimate truth of reality of who and what we are.
Everything else is a destructive distortion of truth.
I'm not interested in your silly mind/words games....fuck off.
Logik wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:12 am
My "games" are called game theory. My "games" are played towards the common objective of reaching some sort of agreement.
You will play the game of trying to win your view point over to your side of the agreement fence, you will continue to make a big noise until that happens.
We stop playing that game when we see clearly that we are actually on both sides of the fence at once...and then the game continues in harmony without friction.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:23 am
You will play the game of trying to win your view point over to your side of the agreement fence, you will continue to make a big noise until that happens.
Nonsense. I stop playing the game when we both end up on the same side of the fence.
Whether you come to my side, or I come to yours.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:23 am
We stop playing that game when we see clearly that we are actually on both sides of the fence at once...and then the game continues in harmony without friction.
Logik wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:23 am
But Lacewing isn't yourself? Poor dualist
Lacewing is myself that I choose to ignore.
You know, just like when you get a bad depressive cloud wash over your sense of being, a true master of self will just ignore it, by cutting off it's food supply until it dies.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:27 am
Lacewing is myself that I choose to ignore.
So you can ignore yourself and not ignore yourself.
Poor dualist.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:27 am
You know, just like when you get a bad depressive cloud wash over your sense of being, a true master of self will just ignore it, by cutting off it's food supply until it dies.
True master of self can prevent depressive cloud from entering their sky. Prevention is higher mastery than cure.
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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:27 am
Lacewing is myself that I choose to ignore.
So you can ignore yourself and not ignore yourself.
Poor dualist.
Yes, you have the choice of ignoring yourself or not.
It's very empowering, hardly poor.
Logik wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:30 amTrue master of self can prevent depressive cloud from entering their sky.
No, there is nothing to stop what's happening, how can you stop yourself from happening...try unmaking yourself right now and see how far you get?
A depressive cloud is an abstract feeling...that can be ignored, it's called power of the mind, believe it's there and it will be, don't believe and it will vanish like a salamander in the midday sun.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:36 am
Yes, you have the choice of ignoring yourself or not.
It's very empowering, hardly poor.
A CHOICE mind you?
Deciding between TWO things mind you?
Poor dualist.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:36 am
No, there is nothing to stop what's happening, how can you stop yourself from happening...try unmaking yourself right now and see how far you get?
A depressive cloud is an abstract feeling...that can be ignored, it's called power of the mind, believe it's there and it will be, don't believe and it will vanish like a salamander in the midday sun.
So there is nothing to stop the cloud but something to ignore it.