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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:09 pm Creating a predictive model is perfectionism. What is wrong with "chaos"?
I like order.
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peacegirl wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:57 pm You're right, not necessarily. But these observations are accurate, and they do turn into a practical solution that will make the whole world happy, not just one country.
How have you determined that without empirical evidence?
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:10 pm Tell me what is "practical".
Does it do what it says on the brochure?
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peacegirl wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:24 pm There isn't a foolproof way we can predict with 100% accuracy what the outcome of every situation will be. This is not a prerequisite.
Can you predict with any degree of accuracy that it will, in fact work if you have no empirical evidence?
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:52 pm Actually is just means practices is just a gradient from of theory considering all "practice" exists through the mold of theory.
It doesn't.

Theory comes after practice, not practice after theory.

Only once knowledge has been distilled can it be formalised.
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Logik wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:00 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:09 pm Creating a predictive model is perfectionism. What is wrong with "chaos"?
I like order.
Explain that statement, because "likes" are often times random and fickle.
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Logik wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:00 pm
peacegirl wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:57 pm You're right, not necessarily. But these observations are accurate, and they do turn into a practical solution that will make the whole world happy, not just one country.
How have you determined that without empirical evidence?
What is empirical evidence but staring at the same point in space that constitutes the very thought themselves. Both empirical evidence and abstract interpretation start from a simple point. Tell me how they are seperate?
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Logik wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:01 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:10 pm Tell me what is "practical".
Does it do what it says on the brochure?
Is that want "practicality" is...a brochure?
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Logik wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:04 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:52 pm Actually is just means practices is just a gradient from of theory considering all "practice" exists through the mold of theory.
It doesn't.

Theory comes after practice, not practice after theory.

Only once knowledge has been distilled can it be formalised.
So the hypothesis does not exist as a theory, which determines practice and practice does not determine hypthosesis? What seperates theory and hypothesis?

Distilled? But that requires a perpetual reductionism which you claim is irrational.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:05 pm Explain that statement, because "likes" are often times random and fickle.
I like order more than chaos.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:08 pm Distilled? But that requires a perpetual reductionism which you claim is irrational.
No. Reductionism is an error in reasoning. It's tunnel vision and misses the forest for the trees.

Rationality has nothing to do with it. Rationality relates strictly to action.
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Re: Revolution in Thought

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:06 pm
Logik wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:00 pm
peacegirl wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:57 pm You're right, not necessarily. But these observations are accurate, and they do turn into a practical solution that will make the whole world happy, not just one country.
How have you determined that without empirical evidence?
What is empirical evidence but staring at the same point in space that constitutes the very thought themselves. Both empirical evidence and abstract interpretation start from a simple point. Tell me how they are seperate?
I have no idea what you are talking about.
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Logik wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:09 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:05 pm Explain that statement, because "likes" are often times random and fickle.
I like order more than chaos.
So it is reduced to a progressive gradation...resulting in entropic chaos?
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Logik wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:10 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:08 pm Distilled? But that requires a perpetual reductionism which you claim is irrational.
No. Reductionism is an error in reasoning. It's tunnel vision and misses the forest for the trees.

Rationality has nothing to do with it. Rationality relates strictly to action.
And reductionism, dividing one part into another...one space into another, is not action?
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Logik wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:11 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:06 pm
Logik wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:00 pm
How have you determined that without empirical evidence?
What is empirical evidence but staring at the same point in space that constitutes the very thought themselves. Both empirical evidence and abstract interpretation start from a simple point. Tell me how they are seperate?
I have no idea what you are talking about.
1. All empirical sensory knowledge is the observation of a simple point of contact with variations through that point of contact.

2. All intepretation stems from a localized axioms, accepted as is, as a point of origin.

3. The "point", or rather "space", is simultaneously empirical and abstract.
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