Atla wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:10 am
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:12 am
No, those are just thoughts, thoughts don't actually exist in the real world...
More magical thinking. Thoughts exist in the real world, you can't just pretend all of psychology and neuroscience away.
Yes thoughts exist, as believed...reality is not a belief, reality is, reality is not imagined, reality is.
I'm not talking anything away, neither am I adding to what already is without interpretation of what that ''what is'' ...is or is'not.
You are projecting your own thought processing as if it was mine...no problem, it's what one does to itself all the time.
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:10 amNondualism is not a concept. And your two worlds are the definition of duality, if you had an awakening it was a false awakening.
You just distort and abuse Eastern nondualism for your own needs. You don't know what it really means.
The trouble of discussing topics like these with people who are only interested in arguing points to constantly prove them self right, is that they fail to see through their own semantics...of course nonduality is not a concept, concepts are duality, concepts are conceived by that which is inconceivable. But in order to communicate the ineffable inconceivable reality that is life living itself one without a second... the paradox of it being aware of itself as a separate entity, is unavoidably the process of experience, the paradox that non-dual reality...appears as duality, ....so yes, there is only duality....because how can that which is duality... not be duality? ..I already see this...you don't need to point out the obvious to someone who already knows this.
When we are discussing a topic we have to be conceptual about it...yes, it's ironic calling that which is not a concept a concept...but how else are we to describe silence without filling it up with words? ..got any other bright ideas?
Do you not know how to see through the absurdity of language and it's limits? ..obviously you don't.
This is why talking to you is like banging ones head against a brick wall.
Awakening does not apply to a person your right about that, awakening simply means seeing through the illusion of separation, and since there is no such separation existing there is no awakening except in the story of 'me'....aka personhood....I already know all this, your just being a pedantic semantic snob assuming I don't.
You just keep repeating stuff to me that I already know....sages don't normally speak to each other, they know there is no one there for them to bounce off, that is why you keep trying to prove yourself and use me as a practice target for your own lack of understanding. But go ahead and use me, you'll learn everything you need to know from me, let me assure you on that score, I've been there, been through it all before, I can take it all.
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You have no proof what I know. So your comment is meaningless and irrelevant, basically, you're just making it all up.
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