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Re: The Weakness of the Progressive Mind

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Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:48 am I think you're really losing it

I'm glad to see you have realised that about yourself.

Now, why haven't you provided the 5 other forum links for everyone to see ?

You clearly wrote that I post on several forums ...several means 7 in my world.

I've eliminated 2 for you...where's the other 5?

I'm still waiting for them to show up?

Or is it that you like making things up?

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Re: The Weakness of the Progressive Mind

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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:22 am
Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:48 am I think you're really losing it

I'm glad to see you have realised that about yourself.

Now, why haven't you provided the 5 other forum links for everyone to see ?

You clearly wrote that I post on several forums ...several means 7 in my world.

I've eliminated 2 for you...where's the other 5?

I'm still waiting for them to show up?

Or is it that you like making things up?

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I thought several meant 2 or more. 3 is 2 or more. Why 7, another thing you made up?
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Re: The Weakness of the Progressive Mind

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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:12 am No, those are just thoughts, thoughts don't actually exist in the real world...
More magical thinking. Thoughts exist in the real world, you can't just pretend all of psychology and neuroscience away.
they are imagination appearing real, while the real world is not imagined
Imagination is also in the head.
You are confused, I saw this in you from day 1 ..but good luck in seeing through the illusions of imagination verses the real.
Thank you. I would start worrying if you would agree with me.
Some people never grasp the Nondual concept no matter how much they try...but like I said, life evolves that awakening in people, only when it is meant to happen and not one second before...
Nondualism is not a concept. And your two worlds are the definition of duality, if you had an awakening it was a false awakening.
You just distort and abuse Eastern nondualism for your own needs. You don't know what it really means.
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Re: The Weakness of the Progressive Mind

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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:22 am You clearly wrote that I post on several forums ...
Btw here are some quotes from a wise woman, just for you:
these attacks have been happening to me for a long time now from other forums, even on nonduality forums, so I'm used to it
Even on the Nonduality forums I've been beaten up, even on the Nonduality forums where we are supposed to know what each other are talking about...you can still get beaten to a pulp...
I can't imagine why they decided to "beat you up" even on nondualism forums? :) It's horrible how people are nowadays, isn't it. :)
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Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:10 am
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:12 am No, those are just thoughts, thoughts don't actually exist in the real world...
More magical thinking. Thoughts exist in the real world, you can't just pretend all of psychology and neuroscience away.
Yes thoughts exist, as believed...reality is not a belief, reality is, reality is not imagined, reality is.

I'm not talking anything away, neither am I adding to what already is without interpretation of what that ''what is'' ...is or is'not.

You are projecting your own thought processing as if it was mine...no problem, it's what one does to itself all the time.



Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:10 amNondualism is not a concept. And your two worlds are the definition of duality, if you had an awakening it was a false awakening.
You just distort and abuse Eastern nondualism for your own needs. You don't know what it really means.
The trouble of discussing topics like these with people who are only interested in arguing points to constantly prove them self right, is that they fail to see through their own semantics...of course nonduality is not a concept, concepts are duality, concepts are conceived by that which is inconceivable. But in order to communicate the ineffable inconceivable reality that is life living itself one without a second... the paradox of it being aware of itself as a separate entity, is unavoidably the process of experience, the paradox that non-dual reality...appears as duality, ....so yes, there is only duality....because how can that which is duality... not be duality? ..I already see this...you don't need to point out the obvious to someone who already knows this.

When we are discussing a topic we have to be conceptual about it...yes, it's ironic calling that which is not a concept a concept...but how else are we to describe silence without filling it up with words? ..got any other bright ideas?

Do you not know how to see through the absurdity of language and it's limits? ..obviously you don't.

This is why talking to you is like banging ones head against a brick wall.

Awakening does not apply to a person your right about that, awakening simply means seeing through the illusion of separation, and since there is no such separation existing there is no awakening except in the story of 'me'....aka personhood....I already know all this, your just being a pedantic semantic snob assuming I don't.

You just keep repeating stuff to me that I already know....sages don't normally speak to each other, they know there is no one there for them to bounce off, that is why you keep trying to prove yourself and use me as a practice target for your own lack of understanding. But go ahead and use me, you'll learn everything you need to know from me, let me assure you on that score, I've been there, been through it all before, I can take it all.

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You have no proof what I know. So your comment is meaningless and irrelevant, basically, you're just making it all up.

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Re: The Weakness of the Progressive Mind

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Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:00 am
I can't imagine why they decided to "beat you up" even on nondualism forums? :) It's horrible how people are nowadays, isn't it. :)
Oh yeah, I said forums ....as in plural...but according to you, that was 7 forums...when it clearly wasn't.

Oh well, lets just over exaggerate our thoughts about things, we all do it, especially you...where or what would we be without our gigantic stories we weave using thoughts.





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For YI..the other forums were the skeptic forum and one nonduality forum, and then this forum = 3 in total...not 7 forums in total..

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Re: The Weakness of the Progressive Mind

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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:25 am
Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:10 am
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:12 am No, those are just thoughts, thoughts don't actually exist in the real world...
More magical thinking. Thoughts exist in the real world, you can't just pretend all of psychology and neuroscience away.
Yes thoughts exist, as believed...reality is not a belief, reality is, reality is not imagined, reality is.

I'm not talking anything away, neither am I adding to what already is without interpretation of what that ''what is'' ...is or is'not.

You are projecting your own thought processing as if it was mine...no problem, it's what one does to itself all the time.



Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:10 amNondualism is not a concept. And your two worlds are the definition of duality, if you had an awakening it was a false awakening.
You just distort and abuse Eastern nondualism for your own needs. You don't know what it really means.
The trouble of discussing topics like these with people who are only interested in arguing points to constantly prove them self right, is that they fail to see through their own semantics...of course nonduality is not a concept, concepts are duality, concepts are conceived by that which is inconceivable. But in order to communicate the ineffable inconceivable reality that is life living itself one without a second... the paradox of it being aware of itself as a separate entity, is unavoidably the process of experience, the paradox that non-dual reality...appears as duality, ....so yes, there is only duality....because how can that which is duality... not be duality? ..I already see this...you don't need to point out the obvious to someone who already knows this.

When we are discussing a topic we have to be conceptual about it...yes, it's ironic calling that which is not a concept a concept...but how else are we to describe silence without filling it up with words? ..got any other bright ideas?

Do you not know how to see through the absurdity of language and it's limits? ..obviously you don't.

This is why talking to you is like banging ones head against a brick wall.

Awakening does not apply to a person your right about that, awakening simply means seeing through the illusion of separation, and since there is no such separation existing there is no awakening except in the story of 'me'....aka personhood....I already know all this, your just being a pedantic semantic snob assuming I don't.

You just keep repeating stuff to me that I already know....sages don't normally speak to each other, they know there is no one there for them to bounce off, that is why you keep trying to prove yourself and use me as a practice target for your own lack of understanding. But go ahead and use me, you'll learn everything you need to know from me, let me assure you on that score, I've been there, been through it all before, I can take it all.

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You have no proof what I know. So your comment is meaningless and irrelevant, basically, you're just making it all up.

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Bla bla bla you just use the words of people who actually did understand, but all that comes out is a word salad. It's really embarrassing.
But go ahead and use me
Plus you play the victim
but according to you, that was 7 forums
Please quote where I wrote 7. Wow I must be omniscient to know every little secret of the Internet.

Definition of several
2 a : more than one; several pleas
b : more than two but fewer than many; moved several inches
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Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:44 am It's really embarrassing.
No need to feel embarrassed when the plank in your own eye is pointed out to you.
Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:44 am
But go ahead and use me
Plus you play the victim
No victim without a perpetrator.

Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:44 amPlease quote where I wrote 7. Wow I must be omniscient to know every little secret of the Internet.

Definition of several
2 a : more than one; several pleas
b : more than two but fewer than many; moved several inches
Go back inside your head to that place where you archive everything away so that you can dip into it on demand, for those times when ever you get bored with your own nothingness, and know that by going there to that place you can find ways to piss yourself off when ever it suits you.

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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:52 am No victim without a perpetrator.
Actually I was just correcting the harmful beliefs you spread. It's kinda fun and also kinda morally right to me. But gave up on that too, you started our last two "debates". Besides as you say I'm not real anyway.

So stop preying on me pleeeease :)
Go back inside your head to that place where you archive everything away so that you can dip into it on demand, for those times when ever you get bored with your own nothingness, and know that by going there to that place you can find ways to piss yourself off when ever it suits you.
Eternal nothingness seems to have developed a personal grudge against me.
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Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:05 pm Actually I was just correcting the harmful beliefs you spread.
Oh, thanks for correcting my harmful beliefs for me, this is wonderful, now we really are looking towards a bright future for all, you are helping rid the world from all harmful beliefs...well done to you for your contribution toward world peace truth and justice. I'm impressed that you too are doing your part.
Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:05 pmIt's kinda fun and also kinda morally right to me. But gave up on that too, you started our last two "debates". Besides as you say I'm not real anyway.

So stop preying on me pleeeease :)
Okay as you wish, your wish is my command. We all love wishful thinking.

:D

PS...don't you go spreading any harmful beliefs...or I'll be on to them also...doing my part also.

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PPS..I hate stains, so if I see any, I'm going to clean it up...please don't take it personally, we all leave stains behind.

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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:15 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:05 pm Actually I was just correcting the harmful beliefs you spread.
Oh, thanks for correcting my harmful beliefs for me, this is wonderful, now we really are looking towards a bright future for all, you are helping rid the world from all harmful beliefs...well done to you for your contribution toward world peace truth and justice. I'm impressed that you too are doing your part.
Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:05 pmIt's kinda fun and also kinda morally right to me. But gave up on that too, you started our last two "debates". Besides as you say I'm not real anyway.

So stop preying on me pleeeease :)
Okay as you wish, your wish is my command. We all love wishful thinking.

:D

PS...don't you go spreading any harmful beliefs...or I'll be on to them also...doing my part also.

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PPS..I hate stains, so if I see any, I'm going to clean it up...please don't take it personally, we all leave stains behind.

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So if you're the victim then why can't you just ignore my comments from now on? You know.. not starting "debates".
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Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:41 pm So if you're the victim then why can't you just ignore my comments from now on? You know.. not starting "debates".
I'm not a victim. You assumed I was playing that role because that's what thoughts do when believed.

I have no intention of ignoring anyone on this forum, where attention goes, energy flows...I just can't help myself.

It's not my problem if you decide to take it personally.

I respond to information not people.

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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:49 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:41 pm So if you're the victim then why can't you just ignore my comments from now on? You know.. not starting "debates".
I'm not a victim. You assumed I was playing that role because that's what thoughts do when believed.

I have no intention of ignoring anyone on this forum, where attention goes, energy flows...I just can't help myself.

It's not my problem if you decide to take it personally.

I respond to information not people.

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So as you said, you aren't human, and that nothing is real, but you can't help yourself from making me use you. Got it.
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Nick_A wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:57 pm
Human consciousness without content when it is experienced through intuition, satori, or gnosis, is an expression of a quality of NOW rather than a reaction normal for existence. You are arguing against what you are closed to.
Consciousness has no fixed state...it can shift from contracted states of fear, anger, or hurt to expanded states of peace and joy in an instant. It's an alternating current of energy shifting from one state to another. It cannot be fixed, it's okay to be what ever state arises. It's all part and parcel of the play of consciousness. (Duality)

Awareness is beyond the polarities it is (Non-dual)

And yet it is right here and now slap bang in the middle of each polarities. It's the perfect storm. The calm between the thoughts so to speak.

Every storm returns to it's creator the calm, the calm is always before the storm and after the storm.

Every motion revolves around that motionless centre. They are as inseparable as the waves are to the ocean.

Actions being one unitary movement (unconscious awareness)...Re-actions being unconscious awareness aware of moving/being (consciousness)on contact with itself...It's the same one non-mover mover.

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Atla wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:42 pm Got it.
There is nothing to get, it's already got you.
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