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Re: Hubris and Hillary Clinton

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Thrasymachus was right...

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That sense of American superiority is in a major downward trend in any event and more so within the U.S. itself. Military power is no longer the most salient measure of a superpower. But whatever anyone wishes to say about it, it is and likely remain for years to come the first among equals. Who's there to replace it? Europe, the UK, Russia or China, all basket cases in themselves! The world is so screwed up that anything less so wins the geopolitical prize. The US would again become a superpower if they start to self-analyze and re-balance from within instead of presenting themselves as if they were still masters of the world while pathetically proving to everyone that they're anything but.
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Claims of Trump

1) Obama's school friends never heard of him.
FALSE
2) Obama not born in the USA.
False.
3) Birth Certificate forged.
False.
4) Hawaiian health director verifying Obama's certificate was murdered.
False.
5) There were suspicious payments in her accounts.
False.
6) Flip-Flop. "Obama was born in the USA, period".
True.
7) Ted Cruz's father was involved in the assassination of Kennedy.
False
8) He appears in a picture with Lee Harvey Oswald.
False.
9) The Clinton's covered up Vince Foster's death, and moved his body.
False.
10) Foster's suicide note was faked.
False.
11) Hillary is a wonderful woman. She did a great job as SoS.
12) Hillary is not fit to be president.
13) I'm pro-life
14) I'm pro-choice
15) I support tax funded support for contraception.
16) I'm against government support for contraception.
17) I opposed the war in Iraq
18) i supported the war in Iraq
19) Government should pay for everyone's health care.
18) The government should not pay anything to anyone's health care.
19.....
This shit goes on, and on...


Conclusion.
Tumpite Americans = MORONS.
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Re: Hubris and Hillary Clinton

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Impenitent wrote:Thrasymachus was right...

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If Thrasymachus ever said the morons will inherit the earth, then he was right.
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Re: Hubris and Hillary Clinton

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Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Claims of Trump

1) Obama's school friends never heard of him.
FALSE
2) Obama not born in the USA.
False.
3) Birth Certificate forged.
False.
4) Hawaiian health director verifying Obama's certificate was murdered.
False.
5) There were suspicious payments in her accounts.
False.
6) Flip-Flop. "Obama was born in the USA, period".
True.
7) Ted Cruz's father was involved in the assassination of Kennedy.
False
8) He appears in a picture with Lee Harvey Oswald.
False.
9) The Clinton's covered up Vince Foster's death, and moved his body.
False.
10) Foster's suicide note was faked.
False.
11) Hillary is a wonderful woman. She did a great job as SoS.
12) Hillary is not fit to be president.
13) I'm pro-life
14) I'm pro-choice
15) I support tax funded support for contraception.
16) I'm against government support for contraception.
17) I opposed the war in Iraq
18) i supported the war in Iraq
19) Government should pay for everyone's health care.
18) The government should not pay anything to anyone's health care.
19.....
This shit goes on, and on...


Conclusion.
Tumpite Americans = MORONS.
I think it's more that he understands Americans really well. Who cares about what's true or not anyway? Practically no one, as far as I can tell.
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Re: Hubris and Hillary Clinton

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Dubious wrote:That sense of American superiority is in a major downward trend in any event and more so within the U.S. itself. Military power is no longer the most salient measure of a superpower. But whatever anyone wishes to say about it, it is and likely remain for years to come the first among equals. Who's there to replace it? Europe, the UK, Russia or China, all basket cases in themselves! The world is so screwed up that anything less so wins the geopolitical prize. The US would again become a superpower if they start to self-analyze and re-balance from within instead of presenting themselves as if they were still masters of the world while pathetically proving to everyone that they're anything but.
Is it ordained in a dusty archive somewhere that the world must have a 'Supreme Superpower' at all times? We have to just put up with America's need to be constantly 'at war' with some imaginary enemy because someone else might be even worse?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Is it ordained in a dusty archive somewhere that the world must have a 'Supreme Superpower' at all times?
I don't know of any period in history when there wasn't a superstate somewhere in spite of not always having fully succeeded or burning out rather quickly like the Assyrians.
We have to just put up with America's need to be constantly 'at war' with some imaginary enemy because someone else might be even worse?
...and that is the point! If America would start retracting its tentacles from across the globe realizing what a catastrophe its been not only for themselves but for a world that no longer invites their involvement - since the aftermath is always worse wherever they interfere - then conceivably they may begin to empower themselves instead of distributing that power which at best has accomplished nothing or, as stated, resulted in making the situation much worse. The Americans throughout all the wars of the 20th century heading into the 21st were never geopolitically sophisticated or astute in any of their actions or reactions. They were instead corrupt bully boys with a John Wayne mentality who were playing games of political chess without ever arriving at a checkmate. How long does it take to learn the lessons of history that one was an integral part of? Want to be a superpower? Make war on the corruption of your own country.
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Dubious wrote: I don't know of any period in history when there wasn't a superstate somewhere in spite of not always having fully succeeded or burning out rather quickly like the Assyrians.
We used to call it 'empires'. Surely we will eventually grow up?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Dubious wrote: I don't know of any period in history when there wasn't a superstate somewhere in spite of not always having fully succeeded or burning out rather quickly like the Assyrians.
We used to call it 'empires'. Surely we will eventually grow up?
That depends on how much "room" by way of time and potential there's left in human nature to grow. Not hopeful on that but why would I even care!
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Dubious wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Dubious wrote: I don't know of any period in history when there wasn't a superstate somewhere in spite of not always having fully succeeded or burning out rather quickly like the Assyrians.
We used to call it 'empires'. Surely we will eventually grow up?
That depends on how much "room" by way of time and potential there's left in human nature to grow. Not hopeful on that but why would I even care!
I don't know why you would care, or not care. I can't speak for others.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I don't see why any country has to be 'The Superpower'. What does it mean? The country that spends the most on weapons and spends the most amount of time meddling and invading due to its paranoia and innate sense of its own 'superiority'? I don't see that any other country comes within light years of the US in those respects.
It means the dominant country, like a dominant animal in a pack that takes the best resources for itself and who can control and dictate the actions of other nations.
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Re: Hubris and Hillary Clinton

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Greta wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I don't see why any country has to be 'The Superpower'. What does it mean? The country that spends the most on weapons and spends the most amount of time meddling and invading due to its paranoia and innate sense of its own 'superiority'? I don't see that any other country comes within light years of the US in those respects.
It means the dominant country, like a dominant animal in a pack that takes the best resources for itself and who can control and dictate the actions of other nations.
It was a rhetorical question. I'm well aware of the behaviour of the US.
In other words we haven't evolved at all.
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Re: Hubris and Hillary Clinton

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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Dubious wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: We used to call it 'empires'. Surely we will eventually grow up?
That depends on how much "room" by way of time and potential there's left in human nature to grow. Not hopeful on that but why would I even care!
I don't know why you would care, or not care. I can't speak for others.
That too was a rhetorical question being implied with an exclamation instead of a question mark.
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Dubious wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Dubious wrote: That depends on how much "room" by way of time and potential there's left in human nature to grow. Not hopeful on that but why would I even care!
I don't know why you would care, or not care. I can't speak for others.
That too was a rhetorical question being implied with an exclamation instead of a question mark.
Ok. :lol:
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Greta wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I don't see why any country has to be 'The Superpower'. What does it mean? The country that spends the most on weapons and spends the most amount of time meddling and invading due to its paranoia and innate sense of its own 'superiority'? I don't see that any other country comes within light years of the US in those respects.
It means the dominant country, like a dominant animal in a pack that takes the best resources for itself and who can control and dictate the actions of other nations.
It was a rhetorical question. I'm well aware of the behaviour of the US.
In other words we haven't evolved at all.
Why would you expect to see any evolution in a few hundred years or even a few thousand. Evolution happens over many thousands or millions of years and the only "purpose" is reproduction. If you have no children you are not part of the next generation and are not part of evolution. FYI, humans have evolved and are still evolving, but individual humans do not live long enough to see any change and there have not been enough generations in historic times to record any evolutionary change. Evolution doesn't happen because some people think we can be better, evolution happens when those who reproduce more, produce the next generation, and they are not college professors.
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