Has anyone heard about the problem at forums.philosophyforums.com?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote:You're not making sense. Please rephrase.

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When you said you 'saw' Rick at PF what did you mean, that you saw him logged in? If so why would you assume it meant that he had a connection to the site as you were logged in as well so we could just as well assume you have a connection to the site, given that Rick, I assume, is one of those who uses his real name on forums.

There's all to much conspiracy 'theory' wafting about this thread. Forums come and go, no biggie but some appear to think they should be kept for them for free.
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Arising_uk wrote:There's all to much conspiracy 'theory' wafting about this thread. Forums come and go, no biggie but some appear to think they should be kept for them for free.
Re forums.philsophyforums.com, though, it seems something was going on because Eric Porat just bought it a year ago for $20,000--far above what the previous owner expected (apparently the way it was set up, per the previous owner, it couldn't generate more than $350 per month via ad revenue without the site traffic growing significantly), and only a year later the site is so f'ed up that people can't even read threads there any longer.

Of course, theories re what's going on are fueled by the fact that Eric Porat was investigated by the FBI back in 2010 for trying to sell hacked data. (http://www.startribune.com/digital-rive ... /95584209/)

One theory is that Porat maybe bought the site with the intention of using it as a tax write-off.
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Arising_uk wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:You're not making sense. Please rephrase.

PhilX
When you said you 'saw' Rick at PF what did you mean, that you saw him logged in? If so why would you assume it meant that he had a connection to the site as you were logged in as well so we could just as well assume you have a connection to the site, given that Rick, I assume, is one of those who uses his real name on forums.

There's all to much conspiracy 'theory' wafting about this thread. Forums come and go, no biggie but some appear to think they should be kept for them for free.
Being that Rick appears to be busy as he rarely posts to this website, let alone others (such as PF), I was surprised to catch him posting at PF (the reason why is that he took exception to what someone posted about PN). Since it's extremely doubtful that Rick would have known about that post at PF which he disagreed with on his own, I figure someone at PF (and possibly someone from PN) could have tipped him off which establishes a connection.

Do you have a better theory?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Do you have a better theory?

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That's hardly the 'connection' that you appeared to imply, he could have just googled 'Philosophy Now forum' and seen the offending entry or, as has been noted, some of you move between forums so someone from PN could just have emailed him to tell him that the forum was being bad-mouthed elsewhere. No surprise there as some appear inordinately concerned about what goes on at other forums and we often have pissed-off people leaving here in a high-dudgeon that their 'genius' has not been recognised and swearing to tell others all about us. :lol:
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Terrapin Station wrote:...

One theory is that Porat maybe bought the site with the intention of using it as a tax write-off.
Fairly standard business procedure I'd guess. But really, so what. Has there been a great loss to thought and humanity at the loss of a philosophy forum, doubt it and another will pop up soon enough.
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Arising_uk wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Do you have a better theory?

PhilX
That's hardly the 'connection' that you appeared to imply, he could have just googled 'Philosophy Now forum' and seen the offending entry or, as has been noted, some of you move between forums so someone from PN could just have emailed him to tell him that the forum was being bad-mouthed elsewhere. No surprise there as some appear inordinately concerned about what goes on at other forums and we often have pissed-off people leaving here in a high-dudgeon that their 'genius' has not been recognised and swearing to tell others all about us. :lol:
As far as him Googling PF, he would have to time it right to see that offending post (plus this implies he would be checking up on other websites as well) and I strongly doubt he has the time to do all of that.

With regards to connections that you're hung up on, I happen to know that Scott Hughes likes to keep close track of certain members by Googling the names of those members (maybe Rick does that too). It gives you another example that there is no privacy on the internet.

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Philosophy Explorer wrote:...

As far as him Googling PF, he would have to time it right to see that offending post (plus this implies he would be checking up on other websites as well) and I strongly doubt he has the time to do all of that.
Why do you doubt this? Surely someone running a business would keep check on what's being said on the weeb about them in order to respond to any slander that could affect their business?

How much time does it take to type 'Philosophy Now' into Google?

Personally I think Rick shows great restraint in letting this madhouse run so freely and especially since in the pasty some upset fruitloop from here had actually affected his magazine sales with their slander.
With regards to connections that you're hung up on, ...
You implied some sort of conspiracy connection between Rick and this PF website on little to no evidence. A nice example of the weeb in action.
I happen to know that Scott Hughes likes to keep close track of certain members by Googling the names of those members (maybe Rick does that too). It gives you another example that there is no privacy on the internet.
No idea who this Scott Hughes is but I seriously doubt Rick would bother with such stuff as he has a magazine to run and leaves the forum to the mods.

Sure there's privacy on the internet, just don't use it or your real name.
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Arising said:

"Why do you doubt this? Surely someone running a business would keep check on what's being said on the weeb about them in order to respond to any slander that could affect their business?"

Surely?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Surely?
Well Shirley, I think it would at least be a reasonable thing to do given the ease of the technology. Why would you think otherwise?
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Terrapin Station wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:There's all to much conspiracy 'theory' wafting about this thread. Forums come and go, no biggie but some appear to think they should be kept for them for free.
Re forums.philsophyforums.com, though, it seems something was going on because Eric Porat just bought it a year ago for $20,000--far above what the previous owner expected (apparently the way it was set up, per the previous owner, it couldn't generate more than $350 per month via ad revenue without the site traffic growing significantly), and only a year later the site is so f'ed up that people can't even read threads there any longer.

Of course, theories re what's going on are fueled by the fact that Eric Porat was investigated by the FBI back in 2010 for trying to sell hacked data. (http://www.startribune.com/digital-rive ... /95584209/)

One theory is that Porat maybe bought the site with the intention of using it as a tax write-off.
Thank you for this, Terrapin. It doesn't connect things for certain but it does help interpret what may be the case. At least, I disagree that it is a mere false conspiracy theory to be concerned about why the site died as it did. It was too unusual and circumstantially reasonable to be suspicious of something.
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You really need to get a life.
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Arising_uk wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Surely?
Well Shirley, I think it would at least be a reasonable thing to do given the ease of the technology. Why would you think otherwise?
Shirley! Ease of what technology? I already explained he wouldn't have the time to investigate by himself and either he would need to be very lucky (which makes it very unlikely) or more likely get help from someone (tipped off) as to the post he responded to. And if he got help, then that's a connection to PF.

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Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Surely?
Well Shirley, I think it would at least be a reasonable thing to do given the ease of the technology. Why would you think otherwise?
Shirley! Ease of what technology? I already explained he wouldn't have the time to investigate by himself and either he would need to be very lucky (which makes it very unlikely) or more likely get help from someone (tipped off) as to the post he responded to. And if he got help, then that's a connection to PF.

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Nice name. Were you named after Shirley Temple?
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Philosophy Explorer wrote:Shirley! Ease of what technology? I already explained he wouldn't have the time to investigate by himself and either he would need to be very lucky (which makes it very unlikely) or more likely get help from someone (tipped off) as to the post he responded to. And if he got help, then that's a connection to PF.
You're mental if you think this is a connection between the forums of any sort.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:Well Shirley, I think it would at least be a reasonable thing to do given the ease of the technology. Why would you think otherwise?
Shirley! Ease of what technology? I already explained he wouldn't have the time to investigate by himself and either he would need to be very lucky (which makes it very unlikely) or more likely get help from someone (tipped off) as to the post he responded to. And if he got help, then that's a connection to PF.

PhilX
Nice name. Were you named after Shirley Temple?
That's the birdbrain's supposed sense of humor as you well know. Who were you named after?

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