Well that's nice for you: being right.Jaded Sage wrote:Don't worry it turns out I'm definitely right. Worship is excessive exalting.
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I usually am. It's a shame everybody wanted to be dickheads. Maybe I was more willing to spell it out elsewhere. The OP just seemed so crystal clear to me. Anyway, cheers (get it?)!
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Move along please, folks, nothing to see here.
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Greta wrote:Once you become accustomed to the fact that you have barely a clue what's going on in life and neither does anyone else...
Pretty well, although I am still fussier than I need to be about wrong info. Old habits die hard.Lacewing wrote:Ahhh YES! Very freeing!
When we give ourselves some slack... then we can give it to other people too. And possibly, it stops being less about who is right or best, and more about how we can enjoy and connect.
Glad that JS turned out to be right, although I suspect the marker was a tad generous. Looks like a game - make prima facie controversial statements (that are just commonsense) without proper explanation and then complaining about the predictable replies.
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I think I either offended or confused a lot of you. I apologize. I think perhaps a better example would be shopping or video games.
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Cheers.
What about wealth?
What about wealth?
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Jaded Sage
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Wealth is an excellent example!
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So what do we normally call prayer and worship, if not prayer and worship? By what criteria is alcohol an idol?Jaded Sage wrote:If idols are prayed to and worshiped, and alcohol is an idol, then we must reexamine what prayer and worship are, because nobody looks to them in a way that we would normally call prayer and worship. So what are they?
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I think your timing is a bit off, the alcohol boat sailed quite some time ago. It went on to sink without trace, by the way, so it's just as well you missed it.uwot wrote: So what do we normally call prayer and worship, if not prayer and worship? By what criteria is alcohol an idol?
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Even the most rabid megalomaniac does not pray to wealth.Jaded Sage wrote:Wealth is an excellent example!
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Obvious Leo wrote:Move along please, folks, nothing to see here.

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You mean someone took it seriously?Harbal wrote:I think your timing is a bit off, the alcohol boat sailed quite some time ago. It went on to sink without trace, by the way, so it's just as well you missed it.
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Not exactly. The only way anyone took it seriuosly was in as much as they may have offered a serious explanation as to why it didn't make any sense. The rest just sort of looked on with amusement.uwot wrote: You mean someone took it seriously?
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One would have thought they had learnt by now.Harbal wrote:The only way anyone took it seriuosly was in as much as they may have offered a serious explanation as to why it didn't make any sense.
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St. Paul called it one in his epistles.uwot wrote:So what do we normally call prayer and worship, if not prayer and worship? By what criteria is alcohol an idol?Jaded Sage wrote:If idols are prayed to and worshiped, and alcohol is an idol, then we must reexamine what prayer and worship are, because nobody looks to them in a way that we would normally call prayer and worship. So what are they?