Re: Metaphysics

[mtmynd1]

"We live in modern times where science has taken over with thesis and theories, they demand evidence where philosophy only demands a cozy chat."

Science depends on philosophy to bring it any depth of reality. Without that single ingredient science falls on it's ass, desperate for wisdom to come to it's rescue. Do not be fooled into tossing all your faith into science to miraculously rescue you from your own mistaken path of thinking science holds all the answers. Life is an endless mystery that holds Truth behind it's veils which, indeed, includes science but yet another subject amongst the thousands yet to behold.

mtmynd1

[HexHammer]

Science depends on philosophy to bring it any depth of reality.

I know many aspects of science live happily ignorant of philosophy, so exactly where do you think they need this philosophy of yours? ..do you actually have any real life examples or is it just something the tooth fairy told you?

[mtmynd1]

]I know many aspects of science live happily ignorant of philosophy, so exactly where do you think they need this philosophy of yours? ..do you actually have any real life examples or is it just something the tooth fairy told you?

Thank you for the compliment, Hex, but philosophy is not mine as you so generously stated.

As I have so kindly done for several replies, I must say that your insistence to use the phrase, "cozy chat" repeatedly, you do realize your constant questioning generates this "cozy chatting" that you seem to abhor. Am I wrong, Hex?

You also fall prey to the same old refuting of what others have written and then ask for "real life examples" without offering any examples of your "many aspects of science living happily ignorant of philosophy." Given this lack of a give-and-take debate which has been clearly one-sided, let us hear exactly what you have to offer me and the others who have contributed to this post.

[HexHammer]

So I am to conclude you pull all the delusions about philosophy out of your fairytale world that resides in your ass, since you can't even give a simple answer.

[mtmynd1]

So I am to conclude you pull all the delusions about philosophy out of your fairytale world that resides in your ass, since you can't even give a simple answer.

I'm disappointed in your bullshit answer, Hex... but over the period I've been attempting to converse with you it has been increasingly clear that you are an asshole who is only running around these boards in a troll-like fashion to prove to yourself that you are a rebel. wow... how wonderful. I see your snarly smile of self-satisfaction widening on your face as you read this.

It's time to repost what started this thread in the first place -

philosophy ultimately leads to no answers but many unspoken questions. why? because we take the intellectual approach to realization, when those paths are but diversions from the ultimate causation of being. philosophy has the intellectual possibilities of mental exercise, but the essence of our true being must transcend the intellect and into the realm of mystery, the profound mystery of existence, the metaphysical realms and beyond...beyond the persistent questioning of mind.

Your constant barrage of questions proves that ultimately there is no answer that will satisfy your "hungry mind" that is unable to find that special something that will curb your insatiable appetite for asking questions after question after question. Sure philosophy can keep feeding your hunger by supplying you answers after answers after answers but eventually, Hex, you will have to take responsibility to digest some of these answers as you would a meal and let the answer absorb into your head like nutrients and see how they either help or hurt your mind.

If you truly believe that science is the end-all of all questions... that science has the pat answers that end questions, please, go right ahead and become more absorbed into the subject, surrender yourself to this science by foregoing any depth of philosophy and get back to me how your life is doing. I'll be around here, often behind the shadows, observing, digesting and giving others words a chance to improve my being.

Please don't think I (or the other responders) are here to satisfy your quest for answers. You'll not find anyone, anywhere, who can give you all the answers you desire... especially by eschewing philosophical conversations of any subject.

Now away with you, lad, away...! I've spent far too much time with you. It's time for you to learn the wisdom of asking yourself the questions that very Self has the answers you are foolishly looking for outside of your own being.

mtmynd1

[HexHammer]

What good is something that can give no answers? ..NOTHING!!!

..besides, its surely something that you pull out of your delusional fairytale ass!

It's time to repost what started this thread in the first place -

philosophy ultimately leads to no answers but many unspoken questions. why? because we take the intellectual approach to realization, when those paths are but diversions from the ultimate causation of being. philosophy has the intellectual possibilities of mental exercise, but the essence of our true being must transcend the intellect and into the realm of mystery, the profound mystery of existence, the metaphysical realms and beyond...beyond the persistent questioning of mind.

In ancient times, philosophers could solve great mathematical problems, founded democracy, made ethics, etc etc, now you have no clue what philosophy was and it's greatness!
In your madness you stoop it down to irrelevance.

You should get your ass to a shrink, you really need it!

[mtmynd1]

What good is something that can give no answers? ..NOTHING!!!

You expect a destination rather than enjoying the journey. There never is a final destination but only a stopover before continuing on. There is no conclusion to life other than our own death.

Tell me something, Hex... what have all those answers you've found in your life done for you? You are still asking and will continue asking in an endless search for answers that never fulfill you. The difference between you doing that and me is your asking does not include the satisfaction of the journey versus my own journey which is filled with awe and pleasures beyond comprehension. You have not gained the one answer that brings you an understanding of life that brings a continual flow of beauty and wonder that makes life what it is - the Greatest Mystery that makes one's life a pleasure to discover for knowledge's sake resulting in wisdom.

[HexHammer]

mtmynd1

What kind of job does one such as you have?

[mtmynd1]

mtmynd1

What kind of job does one such as you have?

Avoiding questions such as this.

[HexHammer]

mtmynd1

What kind of job does one such as you have?

Avoiding questions such as this.

Yearh, because such delusional people like youself usually don't have any worthy jobs, if any at all.

[mtmynd1]

mtmynd1

What kind of job does one such as you have?

Avoiding questions such as this.

Yearh, because such delusional people like youself usually don't have any worthy jobs, if any at all.

You've revealed your job, Hex... you're a comedian.

[SpheresOfBalance]

I intend to kill off philosophy as I want to make a Danish school reform that shows how outdated and utterly useless this cozy chat is!

The best of luck to you, Hex. Unfortunately, this preposterous idea of yours "to kill off philosophy' is akin to killing off thought itself. Have you even thought of that?

Denmark wouldn't stand for non-thinking, I'm sure. But you may consider taking your idea to North Korea..? You might be appreciated by Kim Jong Un.

We live in modern times where science has taken over with thesis and theories, they demand evidence where philosophy only demands a cozy chat.

And so you're here to ensure it's not very cozy?

[SpheresOfBalance]

Science depends on philosophy to bring it any depth of reality.

I know many aspects of science live happily ignorant of philosophy, so exactly where do you think they need this philosophy of yours? ..do you actually have any real life examples or is it just something the tooth fairy told you?

"Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language." --Wikipedia--

"Philosophy
1. the rational investigation of the truths and principles of being, knowledge, or conduct." --dictionary.reference.com--

"Philosophy
1. the study of ideas about knowledge, truth, the nature and meaning of life, etc" --www.merriam-webster.com--

"Philosophy
The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline." --www.oxforddictionaries.com--

Which, as you can see from the definitions above, relative to your quote above in red, is why we need philosophy. You do understand the definitions, don't you?

I particularly like you use of the word "ignorant.'

[Greylorn Ell]

Keeping in mind the general definition of the word "philosophy" -

"(n) - love and pursuit of wisdom thru intellectual means and moral discipline"

and so it is. philosophy ultimately leads to no answers but many unspoken questions. why? because we take the intellectual approach to realization, when those paths are but diversions from the ultimate causation of being. philosophy has the intellectual possibilities of mental exercise, but the essence of our true being must transcend the intellect and into the realm of mystery, the profound mystery of existence, the metaphysical realms and beyond...beyond the persistent questioning of mind.

mtmynd1

Mighty Mind,

There is not one word in your introduction that is relevant to any aspect of physical or human reality.

This pretentious horseshit is the reason why philosophy has become the program of choice for nitwits seeking their mail-order Ph.D. You should seek a career with one of these on-line universities. You have the qualities needed to rise to the top, like a low-density turd in the cesspool.

Greylorn

[mtmynd1]

Mighty Mind,

There is not one word in your introduction that is relevant to any aspect of physical or human reality.

This pretentious horseshit is the reason why philosophy has become the program of choice for nitwits seeking their mail-order Ph.D. You should seek a career with one of these on-line universities. You have the qualities needed to rise to the top, like a low-density turd in the cesspool.

Greylorn

Thank you, Judge Greylorn, for your well thought out reply. I'm especially thankful for the witty, "Mighty Mind" beginning. You're an especially astute eye who sees exactly what you want to see!

My "pretentious horseshit" is surely another way to demean that which you are totally clueless about and instead of inquiring as to the intent and meaning of chosen quote you put up, you do take the easiest path of insult and negativism to counter your own shortcomings to think and contemplate. That's okay with me. People like you are a dime a dozen on this board and in every walk of life, using the keyboard as their weapon to attack that which baffles and confuses them the point of resorting to cheap and meaningless insults substituting for an intelligent dialogue.

You've nary made a dent, missing your mark by a wide mile, amigo. I know from experience that you'll come charging back with more of the same easy drivel that you learned last year in school to antagonize the innocent, but I ain't one of them. But do what it takes to amuse yourself. This board has few limitations allowing arseholes like you to expose your ignorance and lack of substance freely.