Christianity and the Holocaust

[reasonvemotion]

"Hitler's decisions did remain impulsive, inexplicable and contemptuous of human life to the very end." Why there is the need to blame a religion for one man's deeds, a man who was narcissistic and happened to be in the right place at the right time, to indoctrinate a nation in need. It is documented that America did a physcological profile on Hitler to enable them to understand his behavior and consequently bring him down. None of Hitler's physical or physcological conditions could cancel out that he was not responsible for his behavior. You are using the holocaust as a vehicle to damn christianity as Khalid blames homosexuality on the Western world. Everyone has to take responsiblity for their own actions. That includes you, to admit you are jewish.

[ForgedinHell]

"Hitler's decisions did remain impulsive, inexplicable and contemptuous of human life to the very end." Why there is the need to blame a religion for one man's deeds, a man who was narcissistic and happened to be in the right place at the right time, to indoctrinate a nation in need. It is documented that America did a physcological profile on Hitler to enable them to understand his behavior and consequently bring him down. None of Hitler's physical or physcological conditions could cancel out that he was not responsible for his behavior. You are using the holocaust as a vehicle to damn christianity as Khalid blames homosexuality on the Western world. Everyone has to take responsiblity for their own actions. That includes you, to admit you are jewish.

There is a need to tell the truth about what happened. To claim that one person was guilty is bull crap on steroids. Hitler could have paraded around like a mad-man forever and it would not have brought about the Holocaust. Millions and millions and millions of Christians joined him. They murdered Jews because that's what they had done for centuries, and killing the "Christ killers" made good sport. The fact Christians lack the moral decency to admit the role Christianity played in the Holocaust speaks volumes.

[reasonvemotion]

The moment we want to believe something,
we suddenly see all the arguments for it,
and become blind to the arguments against it.
- George Bernard Shaw

[attofishpi]

There is a need to tell the truth about what happened. To claim that one person was guilty is bull crap on steroids. Hitler could have paraded around like a mad-man forever and it would not have brought about the Holocaust. Millions and millions and millions of Christians joined him. They murdered Jews because that's what they had done for centuries, and killing the "Christ killers" made good sport. The fact Christians lack the moral decency to admit the role Christianity played in the Holocaust speaks volumes.

Listen atheist...one apparently forged in a non-existent place making yourself in effect inconsequential. As a Christian the first commandment was drilled into me as a child...'thou shalt not kill'...this was a commandment, you could say, the primary directive of Christianity!!
Millions and millions...oh and millions of ATHEISTS joined Hitler on his campaign to eradicate Jews. Just because a bunch of reprobates with crucifixes hanging on the wall back at their lairs happen to join the king of all scum on yet another (anti-christian) crusade does not make them CHRISTIAN. It does everything to the contrary. It proves that they have NO FAITH AT ALL.

[ForgedinHell]

There is a need to tell the truth about what happened. To claim that one person was guilty is bull crap on steroids. Hitler could have paraded around like a mad-man forever and it would not have brought about the Holocaust. Millions and millions and millions of Christians joined him. They murdered Jews because that's what they had done for centuries, and killing the "Christ killers" made good sport. The fact Christians lack the moral decency to admit the role Christianity played in the Holocaust speaks volumes.

Listen atheist...one apparently forged in a non-existent place making yourself in effect inconsequential. As a Christian the first commandment was drilled into me as a child...'thou shalt not kill'...this was a commandment, you could say, the primary directive of Christianity!!
Millions and millions...oh and millions of ATHEISTS joined Hitler on his campaign to eradicate Jews. Just because a bunch of reprobates with crucifixes hanging on the wall back at their lairs happen to join the king of all scum on yet another (anti-christian) crusade does not make them CHRISTIAN. It does everything to the contrary. It proves that they have NO FAITH AT ALL.

You are a member of a group who have slaughtered millions through the centuries, you have burned books through the centuries, you stand against reason and freedom. You are the ones who plunged the world into the dark ages. You are the ones who today want to rewrite science and history books to hide your crimes. Do you want to know real history? Let me educate you then. Here are just some of the loving statements contained in Christian scripture, none of it is factually true, and al of it teaches hate against Jews.

"...the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. The displease God and are hostile to all men....In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit. The wrath of God has come upon them at last." (1 Thessalonians 2:15-16).

"When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. "I am innocent of this man's blood," he said. "It is your responsibility!' All the people answered, 'Let his blood be on us and on our children!'" Matthew 27:24-25. And hence, the Jews have been murdered for being Christ Killers, despite the fact he never lived, and no such trial ever took place, and no person can bind future generations by their acts.

"We must obey God rather than men! The God of our fathers raised Jesus from the dead -- whom you had killed by hanging him on a tree." (Acts 5:27-30).

Do you want more? There is not a single moral teaching in all of Christianity. It is a perversion that has covered the world in the stench of hatred, ignorance and fear. Time to put an end to such ugliness. We are all people, human beings, we are not to be divided into the true believer and demon spawn.

[attofishpi]

You are a member of a group....

I am NO MEMBER and Christianity on the whole is NO GROUP. Amongst many aspects, I am highly disgusted by the fundamentalists, especially those nutjobs in the US.
My form of Christianity is the original intention of the CHRIST.[/quote]

......who have slaughtered millions through the centuries, you have burned books through the centuries, you stand against reason and freedom. You are the ones who plunged the world into the dark ages. You are the ones who today want to rewrite science and history books to hide your crimes. Do you want to know real history? Let me educate you then. Here are just some of the loving statements contained in Christian scripture, none of it is factually true, and al of it teaches hate against Jews.

"...the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. The displease God and are hostile to all men....In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit. The wrath of God has come upon them at last." (1 Thessalonians 2:15-16).

"When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. "I am innocent of this man's blood," he said. "It is your responsibility!' All the people answered, 'Let his blood be on us and on our children!'" Matthew 27:24-25. And hence, the Jews have been murdered for being Christ Killers, despite the fact he never lived, and no such trial ever took place, and no person can bind future generations by their acts.

"We must obey God rather than men! The God of our fathers raised Jesus from the dead -- whom you had killed by hanging him on a tree." (Acts 5:27-30).

Do you want more? There is not a single moral teaching in all of Christianity. It is a perversion that has covered the world in the stench of hatred, ignorance and fear. Time to put an end to such ugliness. We are all people, human beings, we are not to be divided into the true believer and demon spawn.

Hitler masterminded the minds of a nation, yes there were Christians in his flock.

Do you not believe listening to a man purported to be the Christ is a wise move?

I fully appreciate the Judaic roots of the three Abrahmic faiths. The Jews WERE the initial receivers of the words of the God (the system).

[ForgedinHell]

You are a member of a group....

I am NO MEMBER and Christianity on the whole is NO GROUP. Amongst many aspects, I am highly disgusted by the fundamentalists, especially those nutjobs in the US.
My form of Christianity is the original intention of the CHRIST.

Since jesus never walked the earth, there was no "original intention of the CHRIST." It's just made-up nonsense. So, tell me, do you, or do you not believe that the writings below, all of which are found in Christian holy writ, represent Christ's intention?"

......who have slaughtered millions through the centuries, you have burned books through the centuries, you stand against reason and freedom. You are the ones who plunged the world into the dark ages. You are the ones who today want to rewrite science and history books to hide your crimes. Do you want to know real history? Let me educate you then. Here are just some of the loving statements contained in Christian scripture, none of it is factually true, and al of it teaches hate against Jews.

"...the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. The displease God and are hostile to all men....In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit. The wrath of God has come upon them at last." (1 Thessalonians 2:15-16).

"When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. "I am innocent of this man's blood," he said. "It is your responsibility!' All the people answered, 'Let his blood be on us and on our children!'" Matthew 27:24-25. And hence, the Jews have been murdered for being Christ Killers, despite the fact he never lived, and no such trial ever took place, and no person can bind future generations by their acts.

"We must obey God rather than men! The God of our fathers raised Jesus from the dead -- whom you had killed by hanging him on a tree." (Acts 5:27-30).

Do you want more? There is not a single moral teaching in all of Christianity. It is a perversion that has covered the world in the stench of hatred, ignorance and fear. Time to put an end to such ugliness. We are all people, human beings, we are not to be divided into the true believer and demon spawn.

Hitler masterminded the minds of a nation, yes there were Christians in his flock.

Do you not believe listening to a man purported to be the Christ is a wise move?

I fully appreciate the Judaic roots of the three Abrahmic faiths. The Jews WERE the initial receivers of the words of the God (the system).[/quote]

Judaism has nothing to do with Christianity or Islam. The roots of Christianity and Islam are both in pagan traditions that the Jews had long since rejected before these to religions revived them. Christianity revived the notion of a god that demanded human sacrifice, while the Jews stopped worshipping such a being centuries before. And the Muslims worship a moon god, and a made-up man they named MuhamMAD. The Jews rejected idol worship, which was what Abraham was all about, so they would not have reinvented the idol worship of a made-up bein named Jesus or the made-up being named Muhammad.

[attofishpi]

Hitler masterminded the minds of a nation, yes there were Christians in his flock.

Do you not believe listening to a man purported to be the Christ is a wise move?

I fully appreciate the Judaic roots of the three Abrahmic faiths. The Jews WERE the initial receivers of the words of the God (the system).

Judaism has nothing to do with Christianity or Islam. The roots of Christianity and Islam are both in pagan traditions that the Jews had long since rejected before these to religions revived them. Christianity revived the notion of a god that demanded human sacrifice, while the Jews stopped worshipping such a being centuries before. And the Muslims worship a moon god, and a made-up man they named MuhamMAD. The Jews rejected idol worship, which was what Abraham was all about, so they would not have reinvented the idol worship of a made-up bein named Jesus or the made-up being named Muhammad.

Have you been in on the sauce or do you need to check your source? (its the latter, you are talking bollocks)

[attofishpi]

Since jesus never walked the earth, there was no "original intention of the CHRIST." It's just made-up nonsense. So, tell me, do you, or do you not believe that the writings below (above somewhere), all of which are found in Christian holy writ, represent Christ's intention?"

I believe Christ was a great believer in causality.

[ForgedinHell]

Since jesus never walked the earth, there was no "original intention of the CHRIST." It's just made-up nonsense. So, tell me, do you, or do you not believe that the writings below (above somewhere), all of which are found in Christian holy writ, represent Christ's intention?"

I believe Christ was a great believer in causality.

In other words, you don't deny that you believe it is Christian to spread lies about Jews. Thanks for proving my point. I really need to start a religion stating "Christians are hostile to all men."

[attofishpi]

Since jesus never walked the earth, there was no "original intention of the CHRIST." It's just made-up nonsense. So, tell me, do you, or do you not believe that the writings below (above somewhere), all of which are found in Christian holy writ, represent Christ's intention?"

I believe Christ was a great believer in causality.

In other words, you don't deny that you believe it is Christian to spread lies about Jews. Thanks for proving my point. I really need to start a religion stating "Christians are hostile to all men."

I didn't say he saw how foolish man would be. The only thing you've proved is how short sighted, narrow minded (and ineptly sourced) you in fact are.

[ForgedinHell]

[quote="attofishpi I didn't say he saw how foolish man would be. The only thing you've proved is how short sighted, narrow minded (and ineptly sourced) you in fact are.[/quote]

Let's summarize then: I quoted directly from Christian holy writ. The holy writ I quoted from is clearly anti-semitic, and idiotic. Literally, the words state that Jews are evil and deserve to be persecuted for killing Christ. That is without any exaggeration on my part. I asked you if you stand by those writings, and you did not deny that you do. One of the ironies is that at least one of the writings is a well-documented forgery, so Christians could easily delete the remark that Jews are hostile to all men, etc., based on a view towards honesty, if nothing else. But they don't. And neither do you.

And you wonder why it is that Christianity paved the way for Hitler to take the nation with the highest percentage of Christians in it and engage in the mass murder of Jews?

As long as Christians teach hate for Jews, I'm teaching hate for Christians. That's fair isn't it?

[ForgedinHell]

Hitler masterminded the minds of a nation, yes there were Christians in his flock.

Do you not believe listening to a man purported to be the Christ is a wise move?

I fully appreciate the Judaic roots of the three Abrahmic faiths. The Jews WERE the initial receivers of the words of the God (the system).

Judaism has nothing to do with Christianity or Islam. The roots of Christianity and Islam are both in pagan traditions that the Jews had long since rejected before these to religions revived them. Christianity revived the notion of a god that demanded human sacrifice, while the Jews stopped worshipping such a being centuries before. And the Muslims worship a moon god, and a made-up man they named MuhamMAD. The Jews rejected idol worship, which was what Abraham was all about, so they would not have reinvented the idol worship of a made-up bein named Jesus or the made-up being named Muhammad.

Have you been in on the sauce or do you need to check your source? (its the latter, you are talking bollocks)

Christianity has its roots in paganism. It's largely based on astrology and other bull crap, and has nothing whatsoever to do with Judaism. The Jewish messiah the Christians keep referring to was never expected to be a god. The idea is laughable for Jews. The idea of worshipping a god that demands human sacrifice, that's against Judaism. The idea of a god that would send someone to hell forever? That's against Judaism. The idea that one could drink the blood of a god and eat its body by consuming wine and bread, that is pure paganism. Every single alleged miracle of Jesus existed in pagan religions, from raising the dead, to walking on water, turning water into wine, feeding the multitude and rising from the grave in three days. There is nothing original in the story, and the stories that existed before the Jesus-myth were all pagan religions, nothing Jewish about them.

You believe in a non-existent god and simply worship like Mythra worshippers did centuries ago.

[attofishpi]

I didn't say he saw how foolish man would be. The only thing you've proved is how short sighted, narrow minded (and ineptly sourced) you in fact are.

Let's summarize then: I quoted directly from Christian holy writ. The holy writ I quoted from is clearly anti-semitic, and idiotic. Literally, the words state that Jews are evil and deserve to be persecuted for killing Christ. That is without any exaggeration on my part. I asked you if you stand by those writings, and you did not deny that you do. One of the ironies is that at least one of the writings is a well-documented forgery, so Christians could easily delete the remark that Jews are hostile to all men, etc., based on a view towards honesty, if nothing else. But they don't. And neither do you.

And you wonder why it is that Christianity paved the way for Hitler to take the nation with the highest percentage of Christians in it and engage in the mass murder of Jews?

As long as Christians teach hate for Jews, I'm teaching hate for Christians. That's fair isn't it?

Holy writ? Are you some kind of blood sucking lawyer...please say ya aint. You do realise these are words of entities named 'man' dont you. You still dont get me do you. I am a believer in the word of CHRIST, period. You shouldnt get lost in written doctrine...too many around here have\are...it truly is very naive.
Of the flesh? Did you ever read that in the holy writ? Did you ever comprehend the point?

[attofishpi]

Christianity has its roots in paganism. It's largely based on astrology and other bull crap, and has nothing whatsoever to do with Judaism.

You are an idiot.