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Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction; Distinction Through Distinction as Distinction; Distinction
1. There is only the event of distinction; distinction is self-contained self-contrast by means of its recursion; the event of distinction seperates, contains, and repeats as repeated.
2. Mind and matter are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
3. Static and process, form and function, are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
4. Unity and multiplicity are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
5. Quantity and Quality are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
6. Finite and Infinite are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
7. Circular reasoning, tautology, and linear reasoning, progress, are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
8. Position A and Position -A, as a particle or wave dualism, are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction; the change from position A to position -A is the contrast of A across position and the containment as the field of all positions thus is the recursion of A and -A.
9. Internal and external are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
10. Is and is not are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
11. Event and non-event are subject to being a distinction by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
12. Transcendence is distinct from non-transcendence thus are distinctions, the transcendence through distinction is the distinction of transcendence thus distinction remains, the non-transcendence through distinction is the distinction of non-transcendence remains;
Transcendence and non-transcendence are as the distinctions they are;
Transcendence transcending transcendence is non-transcendence as transcendence is never transcended; non-transcendence not transcending is transcendent as no transcendence is distinct, distinction remains.
13. Distinction is distinct from indistinction thus distinction and indistinction are distinctions, the distinction of indistinction from distinction is a distinction, the indistinction of distinction is the distinction of distinction by the indistinct, distinction remains; all binaries are rooted in distinction and indistinction.
14. What remains is distinct from what does not remain thus distinction; distinction through distinction as distinction; distinction.
15. Truth and falsity are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction; truth through truth is gradation of truth as falsity, falsity through falsity is gradation of falsity as truth, yet the binary distinction of truth and falsity remains.
16. Dualism and non-dualism are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
17. Axiom and non-axiom are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
18. Relative and Absolute are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
19. Paradox and contradiction are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
20. Assumption and non-assumption are subject to being distinctions by contrast that contains the other through said contrast, they manifest distinctions and yet are transcended by distinction as subject to distinction.
21. Visual recursion based proto-formalism:
● = (0, indistinct/nothing)
●● = (1, A)
●●● = (1, 2, -1 ,A ,B, -A) addition(compounding)/subtraction(derivation)
●●●● = (1,2,3,-1,-2,A,B,C,-A,-B) addition(compounding)/subtraction(derivation)
......
****Each sequence is a set by means of a finite sequence. The qualititative nature of this set as sequence is context.
The foundational set/context is ●● as the sequence is contained as a set/context itself thus resulting the set/context containing itself across scale as ●●● contained as ● ●●● ● is the set/context, ●●, appearing as self scaling through ●●● given ●● appears 2 times in ●●●, with -1 being the distinct space between the sets within the set; it appears as a holographic expression of context where the identity of a quality is its limits that contain itself as the limits of the contrast.
( ) = ●●
(●●) = Set as Sequence of (1,A)
(●●●) = Set as Sequence of (1, 2, -1 ,A ,B, -A)
(●●●●) = Set as Sequence of (1,2,3,-1,-2,A,B,C,-A,-B)
.....
(●●)●● = (1, A)
multiplication(compounding of compounding)/division (derivation of derivation)
(●●)(●●)(●●) = (●●)●●● = (1,2,3,6,A,B,C,F)
multiplication(compounding of compounding)/division (derivation of derivation)
(●●)(●●)(●●)(●●) = (●●)●●●● = (1,2,4,8,A,B,D,H) multiplication(compounding of compounding)/division (derivation of derivation)
....
All sequences as sets are inherently inverses of eachother, qualities containing qualities observe the inverse of the quality:
(●●) = ● ●● ● = (1,A)
(●●●) = ● ●●● ● = (1/2, 2, -1, A/B, B, -A)
Simultaneously every primary sequence contains itself at multiple scales
●● = (1, A)
●●● = (1,2,3,A,B,C)
● ● 1A (P1 and P3)
●● 2B (P1 and P2)
●● 3C (P2 and P3)
●●●● = (1,2,3,4,5,6,A,B,C,D,E,F)
● ● 1A (P1 and P4)
●● 2B (P2 and P3)
●● 3C (P1 and P2)
●● 4D (P3 and P4)
● ● 5E (P1 and P3)
● ● 6F (P2 and P4)
Thus ●● contains itself as ●● and ●● self-scales as ●●n. The self scaling of ●● manifests various other fixed points as
●●●● = (1,2,AA,BB)
●●● (1,2,3,A,B,C)1AA (P1,P2,P3)
●●● (1,2,3,A,B,C)2BB (P2,P3,P4)
Where:
●●● (1,2,3,A,B,C)1AA (P1,P2,P3)
●●● (1,2,3,A,B,C)2BB (P2,P3,P4)
result in:
●●● = (1,2,3,A,B,C)
● ● 1A (P1 and P3)
●● 2B (P1 and P2)
●● 3C (P2 and P3)
Thus ●●●● contains ●●● and ●● simultaneously
And
●●●●●
Results in contain all of the following simultaneously:
●●●●
●●●
●●
While in a simultaneous respect ●● as context, ( ) previously observed, contains the scaling of itself inversely
as
●● contains
●●●
●●●●
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And ●●● contains
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Thus the act of containing is inseperable from what is contained, the contents contains the container and the container contains the contents as a bidirectional symmetry, thus resulting in pure distinction where contents and container are subject to distinction and transcended by it, thus resulting in purely the emergence and dissolution of distinction through distinction as distinction.
Where the fixed point is the distinction of itself across scale and invariably becomes a scale itself. In these respects a fixed point is a distinction by which further distinction unfolds.
Thus with the scaling of fixed points in sequences comes a scaling of absolutes within the context of the scale and in these respect absolute is fixed point invariance within a context and a context is the scale by which the absolute occurs as absolute, the distinction between each is negated as what remains, regardless of fixed point or scale as context, is recursion as the distinction.
Simultaneously fixed points connect across seemingly disparate sequences thus resulting in different scales of the very same fixed points.
Thus within any sequence there are further sequences, thus by default quality contains quality and quantity contain quantity, simultaneously. Each sequence is a sequence and yet the context of how the sequence is measured, the distinction used to measure it, results in differing distinctions of value as the various sequences and values resulting observe.
The act of derivation itself is but the emergence of distinction by which the indistinct becomes distinct through the emergence of further distinctions that are revealed by the very same distinctions applied to it as the distinction that contain the indistinct result in the very same contrast of distinctions that arise from by said distinctions applied. In these respects to make distinct what is indistinct is but the holography of the distinction applied. Conceptually this can be the distinction of the question against the indistinct unknown or the observer effect, in physics and psychology itself.
Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction.
Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction.
Last edited by Eodnhoj7 on Tue Jun 16, 2026 2:01 am, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction.
Distinction of? There must be physical stability in time, space, and scale, before things can be distinguished, and they also have to comport with expected affordances. So distinction, yes, but not as a sole primary in the way you describe.
Re: Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction.
Those things are subject to the event of distinction.
Distinction is a self-contained self-contrasting event.
It is not limited to mind or no-mind, perception or absence of perception, empirical or abstract, or good or evil.
Distinction is the event that allows all to occur as what they are, emerges and dissolves through each, and yet transcends them as being distinct from distinction by the distinction of indistinction.
Re: Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction.
Okay, sooo what do you do with that? How does that inform you in a way that empowers how you live your life?
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Re: Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction.
when the sole primitive is a skunk, there is only distinction...
this sounds a bit like a phenomenologist's bracketing (Husserl)
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this sounds a bit like a phenomenologist's bracketing (Husserl)
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Re: Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction.
And why is use so valuable when regardless of use or absence of use what remains is awareness.
What exactly is "use" useful for? To gain experiences? Those happen regardless of use.
What are your terms exactly?
Re: Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction.
Bracketing is distinct from non-bracketting, and the inverse as well. Bracketting is irrelevant.Impenitent wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2026 2:58 pm when the sole primitive is a skunk, there is only distinction...
this sounds a bit like a phenomenologist's bracketing (Husserl)
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Re: Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction.
Well, what is the point of awareness if not used for creation? Awareness provides a larger canvas and more tools to work with, so why wouldn't one utilize that? Unless, perhaps, you're content to be a brain in a jar spitting out random thoughts of no use or significance? Is there a purpose or does it serve you somehow?Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:52 pmAnd why is use so valuable when regardless of use or absence of use what remains is awareness.
What exactly is "use" useful for? To gain experiences? Those happen regardless of use.
What are your terms exactly?
Re: Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction.
Creation is for the experience of itself, it is the emergence of awareness and the contraction back into its.Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2026 5:53 amWell, what is the point of awareness if not used for creation? Awareness provides a larger canvas and more tools to work with, so why wouldn't one utilize that? Unless, perhaps, you're content to be a brain in a jar spitting out random thoughts of no use or significance? Is there a purpose or does it serve you somehow?
Utility is effectively goal oriented, an experience is desired and this desire is directed in a manner to make a specific experience unfold. Utility confines experience. It limits it to purely a desire rather than letting reality occur according to its own means.
So to answer your question. Utility has its place but is not always necessary as experience occurs regardless.
Re: Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction.
What do you get out of defining everything so specifically?Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2026 1:15 amCreation is for the experience of itself, it is the emergence of awareness and the contraction back into its.Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2026 5:53 am Well, what is the point of awareness if not used for creation? Awareness provides a larger canvas and more tools to work with, so why wouldn't one utilize that? Unless, perhaps, you're content to be a brain in a jar spitting out random thoughts of no use or significance? Is there a purpose or does it serve you somehow?
Utility is effectively goal oriented, an experience is desired and this desire is directed in a manner to make a specific experience unfold. Utility confines experience. It limits it to purely a desire rather than letting reality occur according to its own means.
So to answer your question. Utility has its place but is not always necessary as experience occurs regardless.
Re: Distinction is the Sole Primitive; There is Only Distinction.
You ask me what I get out defining everything so specifically and then ask for a specific defining of what that thing is....so you just answered your own question with the question.Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2026 3:15 amWhat do you get out of defining everything so specifically?Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2026 1:15 amCreation is for the experience of itself, it is the emergence of awareness and the contraction back into its.Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2026 5:53 am Well, what is the point of awareness if not used for creation? Awareness provides a larger canvas and more tools to work with, so why wouldn't one utilize that? Unless, perhaps, you're content to be a brain in a jar spitting out random thoughts of no use or significance? Is there a purpose or does it serve you somehow?
Utility is effectively goal oriented, an experience is desired and this desire is directed in a manner to make a specific experience unfold. Utility confines experience. It limits it to purely a desire rather than letting reality occur according to its own means.
So to answer your question. Utility has its place but is not always necessary as experience occurs regardless.