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Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:46 am
by Will Bouwman
Here's one for those with an interest in the kaleidoscope of possibilities about the true nature of reality:
https://youtu.be/vKeCr-MAyH4?si=l8LTt8Hut6F1-2UL
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:44 am
by Age
There is only One actual so-called 'possibility' about the True nature of 'Reality', Itself.
Now, of course there may well be an infinite number of, imagined, 'possibilities' of what the actual True nature of 'Reality', Itself, is among you human beings. However, what it takes to find out and discover what the One and only True nature of 'Reality', Itself, is, exactly, is firstly to present the definition of the 'Reality' word.
And, the reason why you human beings, in the days when this is being written, are, still, only pre-assuming and theorizing, is because you have not yet, in agreement, even defined the 'Reality' word.
Also, the link you provided fell to bits at the title of the video.
'Is Our Universe Inside a Black Hole?' is an absolutely absurd and ridiculous question. And, for a couple of reasons.
Now, if any one would like to know what those reasons are, exactly, then let 'us' have a discussion. LOL 'Is our universe inside a black hole?' It is like 'these people' do not yet even know what the word 'Universe' means nor is referring to, exactly.
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:29 am
by FlashDangerpants
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:44 am
Now, if any one would like to know what those reasons are, exactly, then let 'us' have a discussion.
On behalf of the human race I would like to thank you for your kind offer, but not today thanks.
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:33 am
by Age
FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:29 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:44 am
Now, if any one would like to know what those reasons are, exactly, then let 'us' have a discussion.
On behalf of the human race I would like to thank you for your kind offer, but not today thanks.
Here 'we' have another prime example of how and why 'these human beings' remained oblivious to the actual Truth of things.
Some, like 'this one', could not be more closed, and thus 'they' could not be any more blind, deaf, and stupid.
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:57 am
by FlashDangerpants
I thought the video was pretty interesting.
But in the interest of promoting the undertermination theme, I would suggest that the spin of the universe leading to the similar spin for a numercially overloaded number of galaqies within it is caused not by living inside some other universe's black hole, but rather because the true origin of the universe is a potter's wheel.
I will crusade mightily gainst any mofo who says that in the beginning all of time and space was sort of "blended" together in a giant bucket of spinning swords by the angry goat god Moulinex.
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:53 pm
by Will Bouwman
FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:57 am
I will crusade mightily gainst any mofo who says that in the beginning all of time and space was sort of "blended" together in a giant bucket of spinning swords by the angry goat god Moulinex.
Quite right too. Everyone knows it was garden forks.
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:07 pm
by Gary Childress
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:44 am
There is only One actual so-called 'possibility' about the True nature of 'Reality', Itself.
Now, of course there may well be an infinite number of, imagined, 'possibilities' of what the actual True nature of 'Reality', Itself, is among you human beings. However, what it takes to find out and discover what the One and only True nature of 'Reality', Itself, is, exactly, is firstly to present the definition of the 'Reality' word.
And, the reason why you human beings, in the days when this is being written, are, still, only pre-assuming and theorizing, is because you have not yet, in agreement, even defined the 'Reality' word.
Also, the link you provided fell to bits at the title of the video.
'Is Our Universe Inside a Black Hole?' is an absolutely absurd and ridiculous question. And, for a couple of reasons.
Now, if any one would like to know what those reasons are, exactly, then let 'us' have a discussion. LOL 'Is our universe inside a black hole?' It is like 'these people' do not yet even know what the word 'Universe' means nor is referring to, exactly.
You're always welcome to just post the reasons in this thread since it is related to the topic of the thread. Perhaps others will engage your theory (or whatever) and you can defend it in whatever way necessary, and the rest of us can determine what we think of your position or who we think is closer to being correct. Why not give it a go!?
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:29 pm
by Impenitent
spinning into the black holes...
galactic billiards
-Imp
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:31 pm
by Gary Childress
For anyone Interested, I asked ChatGPT a little more about the theory of us being inside a black hole.
https://chatgpt.com/share/68582f82-4ab4 ... 0d7742e922
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:33 pm
by Gary Childress
Impenitent wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:29 pm
spinning into the black holes...
galactic billiards
-Imp
Or like the spiraling flush of a giant commode. Maybe God got tired of us? Will God keep going until some favored being that God creates gets it right? Will that be the ideal universe, just not ours?
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:45 pm
by Gary Childress
So if we do indeed live in a universe that is pulled inside a black hole, would the universe be more or less sphereical? Also the rotation of anything going into the black hole would be circular or maybe a cone with a small tip on one end and a wide one on the other?
If that is the case, then might we expect Pi to be an important number in many matters having to do with geometry and mathematics in our world?
https://chatgpt.com/share/68583244-0930 ... ba19350ad9
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:00 pm
by Gary Childress
Could universes inside black holes and black holes inside of black holes have the same, constant laws of physics, or could the laws of physics differ between them?
According to ChatGPT: who knows...
https://chatgpt.com/share/68584422-427c ... 0de3b9eb36
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:59 pm
by Flannel Jesus
You really needed chat gpt to answer "who knows"? I could have given you that answer.
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:00 pm
by Gary Childress
Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:59 pm
You really needed chat gpt to answer "who knows"? I could have given you that answer.
It gave some scenarios, though. So that's a little more to it. Why the seemingly snarky reply?
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:42 pm
by Flannel Jesus
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:00 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:59 pm
You really needed chat gpt to answer "who knows"? I could have given you that answer.
It gave some scenarios, though. So that's a little more to it. Why the seemingly snarky reply?
Who knows?