Underdetermination, for example:
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Will Bouwman
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Underdetermination, for example:
Here's one for those with an interest in the kaleidoscope of possibilities about the true nature of reality:
https://youtu.be/vKeCr-MAyH4?si=l8LTt8Hut6F1-2UL
https://youtu.be/vKeCr-MAyH4?si=l8LTt8Hut6F1-2UL
Re: Underdetermination, for example:
There is only One actual so-called 'possibility' about the True nature of 'Reality', Itself.
Now, of course there may well be an infinite number of, imagined, 'possibilities' of what the actual True nature of 'Reality', Itself, is among you human beings. However, what it takes to find out and discover what the One and only True nature of 'Reality', Itself, is, exactly, is firstly to present the definition of the 'Reality' word.
And, the reason why you human beings, in the days when this is being written, are, still, only pre-assuming and theorizing, is because you have not yet, in agreement, even defined the 'Reality' word.
Also, the link you provided fell to bits at the title of the video.
'Is Our Universe Inside a Black Hole?' is an absolutely absurd and ridiculous question. And, for a couple of reasons.
Now, if any one would like to know what those reasons are, exactly, then let 'us' have a discussion. LOL 'Is our universe inside a black hole?' It is like 'these people' do not yet even know what the word 'Universe' means nor is referring to, exactly.
Now, of course there may well be an infinite number of, imagined, 'possibilities' of what the actual True nature of 'Reality', Itself, is among you human beings. However, what it takes to find out and discover what the One and only True nature of 'Reality', Itself, is, exactly, is firstly to present the definition of the 'Reality' word.
And, the reason why you human beings, in the days when this is being written, are, still, only pre-assuming and theorizing, is because you have not yet, in agreement, even defined the 'Reality' word.
Also, the link you provided fell to bits at the title of the video.
'Is Our Universe Inside a Black Hole?' is an absolutely absurd and ridiculous question. And, for a couple of reasons.
Now, if any one would like to know what those reasons are, exactly, then let 'us' have a discussion. LOL 'Is our universe inside a black hole?' It is like 'these people' do not yet even know what the word 'Universe' means nor is referring to, exactly.
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Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Here 'we' have another prime example of how and why 'these human beings' remained oblivious to the actual Truth of things.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:29 amOn behalf of the human race I would like to thank you for your kind offer, but not today thanks.
Some, like 'this one', could not be more closed, and thus 'they' could not be any more blind, deaf, and stupid.
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Re: Underdetermination, for example:
I thought the video was pretty interesting.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:46 am Here's one for those with an interest in the kaleidoscope of possibilities about the true nature of reality:
https://youtu.be/vKeCr-MAyH4?si=l8LTt8Hut6F1-2UL
But in the interest of promoting the undertermination theme, I would suggest that the spin of the universe leading to the similar spin for a numercially overloaded number of galaqies within it is caused not by living inside some other universe's black hole, but rather because the true origin of the universe is a potter's wheel.
I will crusade mightily gainst any mofo who says that in the beginning all of time and space was sort of "blended" together in a giant bucket of spinning swords by the angry goat god Moulinex.
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Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Quite right too. Everyone knows it was garden forks.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:57 am I will crusade mightily gainst any mofo who says that in the beginning all of time and space was sort of "blended" together in a giant bucket of spinning swords by the angry goat god Moulinex.
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Gary Childress
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Re: Underdetermination, for example:
You're always welcome to just post the reasons in this thread since it is related to the topic of the thread. Perhaps others will engage your theory (or whatever) and you can defend it in whatever way necessary, and the rest of us can determine what we think of your position or who we think is closer to being correct. Why not give it a go!?Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:44 am There is only One actual so-called 'possibility' about the True nature of 'Reality', Itself.
Now, of course there may well be an infinite number of, imagined, 'possibilities' of what the actual True nature of 'Reality', Itself, is among you human beings. However, what it takes to find out and discover what the One and only True nature of 'Reality', Itself, is, exactly, is firstly to present the definition of the 'Reality' word.
And, the reason why you human beings, in the days when this is being written, are, still, only pre-assuming and theorizing, is because you have not yet, in agreement, even defined the 'Reality' word.
Also, the link you provided fell to bits at the title of the video.
'Is Our Universe Inside a Black Hole?' is an absolutely absurd and ridiculous question. And, for a couple of reasons.
Now, if any one would like to know what those reasons are, exactly, then let 'us' have a discussion. LOL 'Is our universe inside a black hole?' It is like 'these people' do not yet even know what the word 'Universe' means nor is referring to, exactly.
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Re: Underdetermination, for example:
spinning into the black holes...
galactic billiards
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galactic billiards
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Re: Underdetermination, for example:
For anyone Interested, I asked ChatGPT a little more about the theory of us being inside a black hole.Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:46 am Here's one for those with an interest in the kaleidoscope of possibilities about the true nature of reality:
https://youtu.be/vKeCr-MAyH4?si=l8LTt8Hut6F1-2UL
https://chatgpt.com/share/68582f82-4ab4 ... 0d7742e922
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Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Or like the spiraling flush of a giant commode. Maybe God got tired of us? Will God keep going until some favored being that God creates gets it right? Will that be the ideal universe, just not ours?Impenitent wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:29 pm spinning into the black holes...
galactic billiards
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Re: Underdetermination, for example:
So if we do indeed live in a universe that is pulled inside a black hole, would the universe be more or less sphereical? Also the rotation of anything going into the black hole would be circular or maybe a cone with a small tip on one end and a wide one on the other?
If that is the case, then might we expect Pi to be an important number in many matters having to do with geometry and mathematics in our world?
https://chatgpt.com/share/68583244-0930 ... ba19350ad9
If that is the case, then might we expect Pi to be an important number in many matters having to do with geometry and mathematics in our world?
https://chatgpt.com/share/68583244-0930 ... ba19350ad9
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Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Could universes inside black holes and black holes inside of black holes have the same, constant laws of physics, or could the laws of physics differ between them?
According to ChatGPT: who knows...
https://chatgpt.com/share/68584422-427c ... 0de3b9eb36
According to ChatGPT: who knows...
https://chatgpt.com/share/68584422-427c ... 0de3b9eb36
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Re: Underdetermination, for example:
You really needed chat gpt to answer "who knows"? I could have given you that answer.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:00 pm Could universes inside black holes and black holes inside of black holes have the same, constant laws of physics, or could the laws of physics differ between them?
According to ChatGPT: who knows...
https://chatgpt.com/share/68584422-427c ... 0de3b9eb36
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Gary Childress
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Re: Underdetermination, for example:
It gave some scenarios, though. So that's a little more to it. Why the seemingly snarky reply?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:59 pmYou really needed chat gpt to answer "who knows"? I could have given you that answer.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:00 pm Could universes inside black holes and black holes inside of black holes have the same, constant laws of physics, or could the laws of physics differ between them?
According to ChatGPT: who knows...
https://chatgpt.com/share/68584422-427c ... 0de3b9eb36
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Re: Underdetermination, for example:
Who knows?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:00 pmIt gave some scenarios, though. So that's a little more to it. Why the seemingly snarky reply?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:59 pmYou really needed chat gpt to answer "who knows"? I could have given you that answer.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:00 pm Could universes inside black holes and black holes inside of black holes have the same, constant laws of physics, or could the laws of physics differ between them?
According to ChatGPT: who knows...
https://chatgpt.com/share/68584422-427c ... 0de3b9eb36