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If reality changes it is not absolute, considering it changes, and what we constitute as real is that which does not change, than the term reality is a meaningless word in many contexts.

Words are meaningless appearing as meaning.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 5:00 pm If reality changes it is not absolute, considering it changes, and what we constitute as real is that which does not change, than the term reality is a meaningless word in many contexts.

Human understanding of reality changes, reality, itself does not change.

LuckyR wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 8:03 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 5:00 pm If reality changes it is not absolute, considering it changes, and what we constitute as real is that which does not change, than the term reality is a meaningless word in many contexts.

Human understanding of reality changes, reality, itself does not change.

We only know reality by what we understand, how and what we understand is our reality.

Reelality is a fisher's favorite... unless they are dragging nets...

-Imp

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:13 pm

LuckyR wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 8:03 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 5:00 pm If reality changes it is not absolute, considering it changes, and what we constitute as real is that which does not change, than the term reality is a meaningless word in many contexts.

Human understanding of reality changes, reality, itself does not change.

We only know reality by what we understand, how and what we understand is our reality.

"Our reality" is shorthand for: "our interpretation (or understanding) of reality". That is, actual reality exists in your absence.

LuckyR wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:27 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:13 pm

LuckyR wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 8:03 pm

Human understanding of reality changes, reality, itself does not change.

We only know reality by what we understand, how and what we understand is our reality.

"Our reality" is shorthand for: "our interpretation (or understanding) of reality". That is, actual reality exists in your absence.

True in many respects.

What am I aware of?

The unknown, the absence that is, holds many truths both beautiful and terrifying, calming and mind-rending. Many people fear this unknown, this absence, out of fear of loss of what they already know when in reality it may be one of the few things that clarifies it and in some cases even provides justification.

People are comical and tragic in this regard.

Oh well....mortality calls me.

There are no "meaningless" words. Reality means the opposite of illusion. And illusion means the opposite of reality.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:13 pm There are no "meaningless" words. Reality means the opposite of illusion. And illusion means the opposite of reality.

"Meaningless" is meaningless.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 6:27 pm Words are meaningless appearing as meaning.

Your words are then but shallow experiences and you admittedly offer nothing.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:31 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 6:27 pm Words are meaningless appearing as meaning.

Your words are then but shallow experiences and you admittedly offer nothing.

I’m not on offer. I’m not even a useful idiot. I’m the universe. Free and unconditionally indifferent and perfectly whole.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 6:32 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:31 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 6:27 pm Words are meaningless appearing as meaning.

Your words are then but shallow experiences and you admittedly offer nothing.

I’m not on offer. I’m not even a useful idiot. I’m the universe. Free and unconditionally indifferent and perfectly whole.

These words bear no fruit, if you where perfectly whole you would not be seeking experiences of this wholeness.

I am the walrus.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 4:20 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 6:32 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:31 am

Your words are then but shallow experiences and you admittedly offer nothing.

I’m not on offer. I’m not even a useful idiot. I’m the universe. Free and unconditionally indifferent and perfectly whole.

These words bear no fruit, if you where perfectly whole you would not be seeking experiences of this wholeness.

Thus spake a sardonic philosopher.

I am the universe a heartless creation of all created things to be used solely as a strawman.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:29 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:13 pm There are no "meaningless" words. Reality means the opposite of illusion. And illusion means the opposite of reality.

"Meaningless" is meaningless.

Then meaningless isn't meaningless.