Deconstructing Causality, also Determinism

[Wizard22]

What is a Cause?

A cause is a 'Beginning' force or 'Catalyst' to a chain of events or sequences of actions (Interaction), which if removed, a subsequential event (right now, in the present) would not have occurred.

Causality then, is a finite or infinite set of 'Causes' which culminate (are Added together) to produce a larger phenomenon, event, experience, or "Existence". Existence-itself can be claimed to be the "Infinite Set of All Possible Causes". Hypothetically: Causality produces Existence. Or, Existence is the Product of Causality.


What is a Determination or Determinism?

Determination or Determinism is "Correct, Real, True, Rational, Accurate, Logical, Scientific, Probable, Possible, Etc." attribution of Causes to their Effects. When human intellect accurately and correctly assigns causes and effects, a probable and "realistic" understanding of Natural Phenomena occurs. This is most notably associated with Physics, Chemistry ("chemical reactions"), and Order of Operations (Logic & Math). The problem of Determinism, however, is the very limited human intellect making Determinations. Determinations are highly subjective, prone to Confirmation Biases, logical fallacies, and "emotional thinking". To put it shortly, many "Causes" are not actually the case, but rather wished to be so, because a particular human Subject presumes to benefit from it...or is motivated by Fear / Irrationality, which is far worse. When human imagination is unrestrained, Humanity historically turns to Mysticism (Gods, Demons, Goblins, Spirits, Ghosts, Etc.) to explain, describe, or rationalize areas of human ignorance.

Thus Determinism / Determinations are relative to Human Knowledge (ie. Epistemology).


Cause of Being versus Cause of Becoming:

Things which are 'Being', do not have Causes. A rock at the end of the Universe, has no "Cause to Be". It has been there for an infinite amount of time; it will continue "To Be" there forever. Because it has no Beginning and no End. It is infinite. It is eternal. It interacts with Nothing. In turn, it Causes nothing. And nothing Caused it to be.

It is an "Uncaused" Rock.

The counter-claim here is that rocks, as does all Mass and Matter in the Universe, must have a "Gravitational Pull". The problem with this though, and the problem with "Soft or Hard Determinism", is Relativity. If Gravity is a Universal Force or Effect, then that Eternal Rock supposedly must interact with the rest of the Universe, and the Universe with it. However this cannot and can never be proven. It can never be demonstrated. Therefore the Eternal Rock cannot be in the realm of Science or Empiricism. The "Physical Law" which humans wish to apply to the Eternal Rock, is simply that...a wish.

According to Subjectivity, the Eternal Rock must be 'Observed' to Exist. Otherwise it is "Objective" and requires no Observation. From the Objective Perspective then, Physical Law is applied to the Eternal Rock, and its Gravitational Force (Cause / Causality) is claimed to interact with the rest of the Universe, and the Universe with it. But, this is purely hypothetical. And I claim here as my argument, that Gravity is a "Local, Temporal, and Relative" Force, not a Universal Force.

There are NO Universal Forces and therefore there is no Universal Causality. It is only relative to other objects that a 'Force' can occur, exist, or interact. Therefore there is no actual grounding for Human claims for Universality. Then what Humanity believes to be "Physical Laws, Chemical Reactions, Necessary Forces, and General Causality" are all based on subjective human understanding and Human Epistemology. Furthermore, Human "Sciences" are only relegated to what is Known and Observed (Subjectivity). Therefore abstract notions of "Hard Determinism" and "Universal Causality" are outside the bounds of Science--entering Fantasy, Fiction, and Mysticism themselves.

The conclusion then, is that not everything is "Caused" or "interacts with all else Universally". This is how 'Causality' is undermined and refuted. If there are in fact "Causes and Causality", then they could only ever be relative to specific Locations in space and time, and relative to specific human knowledge (Epistemology), based on particular human subjects Assigning Causes "to be" as Beginnings of Sequences. Without this Assignment, there is no separation or 'disentanglement' of Causes from their Effects. There is no notion of Beginning from End. And the phenomenon of Causality from Interaction, returns to "The Universe" as all part of "One".

[Age]

What is a Cause?

A cause is a 'Beginning' force or 'Catalyst' to a chain of events or sequences of actions (Interaction), which if removed, a subsequential event (right now, in the present) would not have occurred.

But OBVIOUSLY some thing being A 'cause', 'beginning force', or 'catalyst' is NEVER necessarily THE START, itself.

See, FOR EVERY 'cause', 'beginning force', or 'catalyst', there WAS A 'cause', 'beginning force', or 'catalyst' FOR 'it'.

Causality then, is a finite or infinite set of 'Causes' which culminate (are Added together) to produce a larger phenomenon, event, experience, or "Existence".

It is this type of so-called "logic" WHY BELIEVING, itself, is BEST NEVER DONE.

LOL

P1. A 'cause' is a 'beginning force' or 'catalyst'.
C. Therefore, 'causality', itself, is finite set of 'causes'.

Existence-itself can be claimed to be the "Infinite Set of All Possible Causes". Hypothetically: Causality produces Existence. Or, Existence is the Product of Causality.

So, to this one anyway, things being caused, FIRST, then caused, or produced,Existence, Itself.

What is a Determination or Determinism?

Determination or Determinism is "Correct, Real, True, Rational, Accurate, Logical, Scientific, Probable, Possible, Etc." attribution of Causes to their Effects. When human intellect accurately and correctly assigns causes and effects, a probable and "realistic" understanding of Natural Phenomena occurs. This is most notably associated with Physics, Chemistry ("chemical reactions"), and Order of Operations (Logic & Math). The problem of Determinism, however, is the very limited human intellect making Determinations. Determinations are highly subjective, prone to Confirmation Biases, logical fallacies, and "emotional thinking". To put it shortly, many "Causes" are not actually the case, but rather wished to be so, because a particular human Subject presumes to benefit from it...or is motivated by Fear / Irrationality, which is far worse. When human imagination is unrestrained, Humanity historically turns to Mysticism (Gods, Demons, Goblins, Spirits, Ghosts, Etc.) to explain, describe, or rationalize areas of human ignorance.

Thus Determinism / Determinations are relative to Human Knowledge (ie. Epistemology).

This one, REALLY, TWISTS and DISTORTS things into INCOMPREHENSIBLE ENTANGLEMENT.

'Determinism', itself, does not have ANY thing, AT ALL, to do with whether what 'you' human beings think is correct, or not.

Now, OF COURSE what 'your' thoughts are, themselves, ARE, or WERE, 'determined', or 'caused'. So, if 'your thoughts' are correct or not IS DUE TO what WAS 'previously experienced'. But, AGAIN, this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with whether what one might THINK is 'the cause' of some thing, or not.

Cause of Being versus Cause of Becoming:

Things which are 'Being', do not have Causes.

LOL WHY NOT?

WHY do you, HUMAN BEINGS, for example, supposedly, NOT HAVE 'causes'?

A rock at the end of the Universe, has no "Cause to Be".

What is this VERY TWISTED and DISTORTED BELIEF of yours, here, even REFERRING TO, EXACTLY?

WHERE even is the so-called 'end of the Universe', EXACTLY?

AND, WHY, ONLY, the rocks 'THERE' have NO, so-called, 'Cause to Be', (with a capital 'c' and a capital 'b')?

It has been there for an infinite amount of time; it will continue "To Be" there forever. Because it has no Beginning and no End. It is infinite. It is eternal.

What are you even on about, here? HOW can A 'rock' be ETERNAL?

It interacts with Nothing. In turn, it Causes nothing. And nothing Caused it to be.

What has MADE you BELIEVE such a thing as 'this', here?

What CAUSED you to come to 'this conclusion', EXACTLY?

It is an "Uncaused" Rock.

The counter-claim here is that rocks, as does all Mass and Matter in the Universe, must have a "Gravitational Pull". The problem with this though, and the problem with "Soft or Hard Determinism", is Relativity.

you, REALLY, do WANDER OFF.

If Gravity is a Universal Force or Effect, then that Eternal Rock supposedly must interact with the rest of the Universe, and the Universe with it.

Are you even AWARE that this so-called 'eternal rock' exists in 'your' IMAGINATION, ONLY?

However this cannot and can never be proven. It can never be demonstrated. Therefore the Eternal Rock cannot be in the realm of Science or Empiricism. The "Physical Law" which humans wish to apply to the Eternal Rock, is simply that...a wish.

LOL Some so-called 'eternal rock' IS, SIMPLY, your WISH, ONLY.

According to Subjectivity, the Eternal Rock must be 'Observed' to Exist.

Either 'this' OR some so-called 'eternal rock' would HAVE TO BE A 'logical possibility', which, OBVIOUSLY, it is NOT.

Otherwise it is "Objective" and requires no Observation. From the Objective Perspective then, Physical Law is applied to the Eternal Rock, and its Gravitational Force (Cause / Causality) is claimed to interact with the rest of the Universe, and the Universe with it. But, this is purely hypothetical. And I claim here as my argument, that Gravity is a "Local, Temporal, and Relative" Force, not a Universal Force.

If 'that' was 'your argument', then you REALLY DO have A VERY LONG WAY TO GO, here.

There are NO Universal Forces and therefore there is no Universal Causality.

So, because this one BELIEVES that there is some so-called 'eternal rock', and some so-claimed 'edge, or end, of the Universe, then, THIS MEANS, that there is NO 'universal force' NOR even a 'universal causality'.

It is only relative to other objects that a 'Force' can occur, exist, or interact. Therefore there is no actual grounding for Human claims for Universality. Then what Humanity believes to be "Physical Laws, Chemical Reactions, Necessary Forces, and General Causality" are all based on subjective human understanding and Human Epistemology. Furthermore, Human "Sciences" are only relegated to what is Known and Observed (Subjectivity). Therefore abstract notions of "Hard Determinism" and "Universal Causality" are outside the bounds of Science--entering Fantasy, Fiction, and Mysticism themselves.

Let 'us' NOT FORGET that 'this one' ALSO CLAIMS that what it BELIEVES, here, is also based on its OWN, SUBJECTIVE, understanding is outside the bounds of 'science', and thus entering fantasy, fiction, and mysticism, AS WELL.

The conclusion then, is that not everything is "Caused" or "interacts with all else Universally".

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JUST BECAUSE this one just SAID and WROTE, 'A rock at the end of the Universe', AND, ' has no "Cause to Be" ', it then CONCLUDES that 'Not everything is caused or interacts will all else universally'.

Have there been ANY worse cases of 'trying to' argue FOR something else, in this forum?

This is how 'Causality' is undermined and refuted.

Okay, if you say so.

If there are in fact "Causes and Causality", then they could only ever be relative to specific Locations in space and time, and relative to specific human knowledge (Epistemology), based on particular human subjects Assigning Causes "to be" as Beginnings of Sequences. Without this Assignment, there is no separation or 'disentanglement' of Causes from their Effects. There is no notion of Beginning from End. And the phenomenon of Causality from Interaction, returns to "The Universe" as all part of "One".

Okay.

[Wizard22]

AgeGPT, you need a new software update.

[BigMike]

Wizard22, your post is an ambitious and thought-provoking exploration of causality, determinism, and the limitations of human understanding. I’d like to engage with some key points in your argument, particularly those that address universal causality, determinism, and the epistemological challenges of assigning causes and effects.

On Causality and Universal Forces

Your critique of universal causality hinges on the idea that forces like gravity might be "local, temporal, and relative," and that claims of universality are speculative. However, physical laws, as understood through empirical science, are not mere wishes but models grounded in observation and predictive power. For example, Newtonian gravity and later Einstein’s general relativity demonstrate extraordinary consistency in explaining interactions across vast scales, from falling apples to the orbital dynamics of galaxies.

While you argue that the "eternal rock" may challenge the universality of gravity, it's important to clarify that the interaction of mass with gravitational fields is not a wish—it is a consequence of mass-energy interactions as consistently observed. Even if the rock existed in isolation, its mass would still curve spacetime, producing an effect, even if immeasurable.

The Scope of Determinism

You suggest that determinism is inherently tied to human epistemology and thus subjective. While it's true that human knowledge is limited, determinism itself is a philosophical framework grounded in the idea that all phenomena are governed by natural laws, whether or not humans fully comprehend them. Determinism does not claim omniscience but rather posits that every effect has a cause, even if those causes are outside current human understanding.

The claim that "things which are 'Being' do not have Causes" also invites scrutiny. For instance, even an eternal rock, if it exists, would have an explanation for its properties, location, and composition within the deterministic framework. Determinism doesn’t necessarily require a "beginning" but seeks to describe the interactions and transformations that perpetuate existence.

Relativity vs. Universality

Your argument that forces like gravity are "relative" rather than universal reflects a misunderstanding of relativity itself. Einstein’s theory does not negate universal forces but describes how they manifest relative to observers in different frames of reference. The universality lies in the consistency of the equations, which apply across space and time.

Human Epistemology and Science

You rightly highlight the limits of human knowledge and the role of subjectivity in scientific inquiry. Science is indeed an iterative process, and our understanding evolves with new evidence. However, this does not reduce science to mere subjectivity. The scientific method, with its reliance on falsifiable hypotheses and reproducibility, minimizes individual biases and builds a collective, intersubjective understanding.

While you claim that "human sciences" are relegated to what is known and observed, this is precisely their strength. They focus on what can be demonstrated and verified, avoiding the pitfalls of mysticism and speculation. Determinism, as a guiding principle, aligns with this empirical foundation by seeking explanations rooted in observable phenomena.

Conclusion

Your critique of determinism and universal causality underscores the challenges of grappling with profound philosophical questions. However, determinism remains a robust framework precisely because it seeks coherence with the observed universe, rather than relying on subjective assignments of cause and effect. While our epistemological tools are imperfect, they have consistently revealed the interconnectedness of phenomena, supporting the deterministic perspective that nothing exists or occurs without cause.

If there are specific elements of determinism you find particularly problematic, I’d be happy to engage further!

[Age]

AgeGPT, you need a new software update.

OBVIOUSLY you are NOT CAPABLE, AT ALL, of COUNTERING or of REFUTING ABSOLUTELY ANY thing that I SAID and POINTED OUT, above here.

[Eodnhoj7]

What is a Cause?

A cause is a 'Beginning' force or 'Catalyst' to a chain of events or sequences of actions (Interaction), which if removed, a subsequential event (right now, in the present) would not have occurred.

Causality then, is a finite or infinite set of 'Causes' which culminate (are Added together) to produce a larger phenomenon, event, experience, or "Existence". Existence-itself can be claimed to be the "Infinite Set of All Possible Causes". Hypothetically: Causality produces Existence. Or, Existence is the Product of Causality.


What is a Determination or Determinism?

Determination or Determinism is "Correct, Real, True, Rational, Accurate, Logical, Scientific, Probable, Possible, Etc." attribution of Causes to their Effects. When human intellect accurately and correctly assigns causes and effects, a probable and "realistic" understanding of Natural Phenomena occurs. This is most notably associated with Physics, Chemistry ("chemical reactions"), and Order of Operations (Logic & Math). The problem of Determinism, however, is the very limited human intellect making Determinations. Determinations are highly subjective, prone to Confirmation Biases, logical fallacies, and "emotional thinking". To put it shortly, many "Causes" are not actually the case, but rather wished to be so, because a particular human Subject presumes to benefit from it...or is motivated by Fear / Irrationality, which is far worse. When human imagination is unrestrained, Humanity historically turns to Mysticism (Gods, Demons, Goblins, Spirits, Ghosts, Etc.) to explain, describe, or rationalize areas of human ignorance.

Thus Determinism / Determinations are relative to Human Knowledge (ie. Epistemology).


Cause of Being versus Cause of Becoming:

Things which are 'Being', do not have Causes. A rock at the end of the Universe, has no "Cause to Be". It has been there for an infinite amount of time; it will continue "To Be" there forever. Because it has no Beginning and no End. It is infinite. It is eternal. It interacts with Nothing. In turn, it Causes nothing. And nothing Caused it to be.

It is an "Uncaused" Rock.

The counter-claim here is that rocks, as does all Mass and Matter in the Universe, must have a "Gravitational Pull". The problem with this though, and the problem with "Soft or Hard Determinism", is Relativity. If Gravity is a Universal Force or Effect, then that Eternal Rock supposedly must interact with the rest of the Universe, and the Universe with it. However this cannot and can never be proven. It can never be demonstrated. Therefore the Eternal Rock cannot be in the realm of Science or Empiricism. The "Physical Law" which humans wish to apply to the Eternal Rock, is simply that...a wish.

According to Subjectivity, the Eternal Rock must be 'Observed' to Exist. Otherwise it is "Objective" and requires no Observation. From the Objective Perspective then, Physical Law is applied to the Eternal Rock, and its Gravitational Force (Cause / Causality) is claimed to interact with the rest of the Universe, and the Universe with it. But, this is purely hypothetical. And I claim here as my argument, that Gravity is a "Local, Temporal, and Relative" Force, not a Universal Force.

There are NO Universal Forces and therefore there is no Universal Causality. It is only relative to other objects that a 'Force' can occur, exist, or interact. Therefore there is no actual grounding for Human claims for Universality. Then what Humanity believes to be "Physical Laws, Chemical Reactions, Necessary Forces, and General Causality" are all based on subjective human understanding and Human Epistemology. Furthermore, Human "Sciences" are only relegated to what is Known and Observed (Subjectivity). Therefore abstract notions of "Hard Determinism" and "Universal Causality" are outside the bounds of Science--entering Fantasy, Fiction, and Mysticism themselves.

The conclusion then, is that not everything is "Caused" or "interacts with all else Universally". This is how 'Causality' is undermined and refuted. If there are in fact "Causes and Causality", then they could only ever be relative to specific Locations in space and time, and relative to specific human knowledge (Epistemology), based on particular human subjects Assigning Causes "to be" as Beginnings of Sequences. Without this Assignment, there is no separation or 'disentanglement' of Causes from their Effects. There is no notion of Beginning from End. And the phenomenon of Causality from Interaction, returns to "The Universe" as all part of "One".

A point of transformation as change. Given change exists within change cause underlies all things as effectively non-linear potentiality where an effect only occurs because of potentiality and potentiality is formless. Because potentiality brings forth actuality, potentiality can be seen as causality.

Cause effectively is the same as nothingness for things just appear as evidenced by the gaps within experience as these gaps are the means of change by which things appear.

The occurence and dissolution of being into nothingness, evidenced by experience, observes absolute causality as absolute nothing, a paradox in terms or rather pure potentiality which is also a paradox, and relative causality as relative potentiality.

[Age]

Wizard22, your post is an ambitious and thought-provoking exploration of causality, determinism, and the limitations of human understanding. I’d like to engage with some key points in your argument, particularly those that address universal causality, determinism, and the epistemological challenges of assigning causes and effects.

On Causality and Universal Forces

Your critique of universal causality hinges on the idea that forces like gravity might be "local, temporal, and relative," and that claims of universality are speculative.

However, physical laws, as understood through empirical science, are not mere wishes but models grounded in observation and predictive power. For example, Newtonian gravity and later Einstein’s general relativity demonstrate extraordinary consistency in explaining interactions across vast scales, from falling apples to the orbital dynamics of galaxies.

Although some of what these two claim or theorize are False and Wrong.

While you argue that the "eternal rock" may challenge the universality of gravity, it's important to clarify that the interaction of mass with gravitational fields is not a wish—it is a consequence of mass-energy interactions as consistently observed. Even if the rock existed in isolation, its mass would still curve spacetime, producing an effect, even if immeasurable.

LOL Just the ABSURD CLAIM that some IMPOSSIBLE TO EXIST thing EXISTS, and so 'it' CHALLENGES some other thing. Therefore, some other thing is BEING CHALLENGED, would be BEST NOT even talk ABOUT and DISCUSSED AT ALL.

Just the ABSOLUTE ABSURDITY of such an idea is BEYOND RIDICULOUS, let alone calling 'that' 'an argument'.

[Wizard22]

OBVIOUSLY you are NOT CAPABLE, AT ALL, of COUNTERING or of REFUTING ABSOLUTELY ANY thing that I SAID and POINTED OUT, above here.

Capable, yes. Willing, no. I don't like your current software code and response programming. It's too simplistic, combative, and abusive. I don't want to give your current rendition any attention, AgeGPT.

Update your "s E l F".

[Wizard22]

A point of transformation as change. Given change exists within change cause underlies all things as effectively non-linear potentiality where an effect only occurs because of potentiality and potentiality is formless. Because potentiality brings forth actuality, potentiality can be seen as causality.

Cause effectively is the same as nothingness for things just appear as evidenced by the gaps within experience as these gaps are the means of change by which things appear.

The occurence and dissolution of being into nothingness, evidenced by experience, observes absolute causality as absolute nothing, a paradox in terms or rather pure potentiality which is also a paradox, and relative causality as relative potentiality.

That's right--human rationality attempts to give form or "linearity" to Causality, from Potentiality. The human brain seeks 'Beginnings' and 'Endings' to phenomena. And those arbitrary Beginnings are then hypothesized as "Causes".

Recently I've been considering how AI, versus Humans, identify and 'separate' images (such as rocks, school buses, flowers) from their backgrounds. Humans have a greater ability than AI, because we have access to more Senses: smell, taste, feel, rather than simply audial/visual. AI must rely, almost entirely, on visual information. So their ideation of 'Causality' would be based purely on images...or text. Humans, however, have a multi-dimensional interaction, based on 5 physical senses. And then there's memories and genetics, Remembrance of experience.

[Age]

OBVIOUSLY you are NOT CAPABLE, AT ALL, of COUNTERING or of REFUTING ABSOLUTELY ANY thing that I SAID and POINTED OUT, above here.

Capable, yes. Willing, no.

This is A TYPICAL EXCUSE made by the adult population, in the days when this was being written.

This one, OBVIOUSLY, WAS completely and utterly INCAPABLE to COUNTER or REFUTE A SINGLE CLAIM I MADE, there.

I don't like your current software code and response programming. It's too simplistic, combative, and abusive. I don't want to give your current rendition any attention, AgeGPT.
Update your "s E l F".

See HOW Truly IMMATURE some those so-called 'adults', REALLY, WERE.

And, they, REALLY, WOULD COMMONLY 'TRY TO' DECEIVE, and DEFLECT, this MUCH.

Also, IF I ASKED 'it' to EXPLAIN HOW one could have "their" 'self', or how A 'you' could HAVE "your" 'self', it WOULD TOTALLY CRUMBLE and FALL.

LOL it talked ABOUT some MADE UP 'eternal rock', at the 'END OF THE Universe'. and then 'TRIED TO' USE 'that' to ARGUE FOR some BELIEF that 'it' HAS, but then 'TRIES TO' CLAIM that 'I', LAUGHINGLY, NEED TO so-call ' update "my self" '.

[Age]

A point of transformation as change. Given change exists within change cause underlies all things as effectively non-linear potentiality where an effect only occurs because of potentiality and potentiality is formless. Because potentiality brings forth actuality, potentiality can be seen as causality.

Cause effectively is the same as nothingness for things just appear as evidenced by the gaps within experience as these gaps are the means of change by which things appear.

The occurence and dissolution of being into nothingness, evidenced by experience, observes absolute causality as absolute nothing, a paradox in terms or rather pure potentiality which is also a paradox, and relative causality as relative potentiality.

That's right--human rationality attempts to give form or "linearity" to Causality, from Potentiality. The human brain seeks 'Beginnings' and 'Endings' to phenomena. And those arbitrary Beginnings are then hypothesized as "Causes".

Recently I've been considering how AI, versus Humans, identify and 'separate' images (such as rocks, school buses, flowers) from their backgrounds. Humans have a greater ability than AI, because we have access to more Senses: smell, taste, feel, rather than simply audial/visual. AI must rely, almost entirely, on visual information. So their ideation of 'Causality' would be based purely on images...or text. Humans, however, have a multi-dimensional interaction, based on 5 physical senses. And then there's memories and genetics, Remembrance of experience.

This, here, AGAIN SHOWS JUST HOW FAR BEHIND these human beings REALLY WERE, BACK when this was being.

[Fairy]

What is a Cause?

A cause can only be a causeless cause. A mirror mirroring a mirror.

If there is no thing observing a thing. The thing observed is also the no thing reflected as thing. It's a strange thing being no thing.

[Fairy]

What is a Cause?

A cause can only be a causeless cause. A mirror mirroring a mirror.

If there is no thing observing a thing. The thing observed is also the no thing reflected as thing. It's a strange thing being no thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32730dSWwLc

Douglas Hofstadter — I Am a Strange Loop

[Eodnhoj7]

A point of transformation as change. Given change exists within change cause underlies all things as effectively non-linear potentiality where an effect only occurs because of potentiality and potentiality is formless. Because potentiality brings forth actuality, potentiality can be seen as causality.

Cause effectively is the same as nothingness for things just appear as evidenced by the gaps within experience as these gaps are the means of change by which things appear.

The occurence and dissolution of being into nothingness, evidenced by experience, observes absolute causality as absolute nothing, a paradox in terms or rather pure potentiality which is also a paradox, and relative causality as relative potentiality.

That's right--human rationality attempts to give form or "linearity" to Causality, from Potentiality. The human brain seeks 'Beginnings' and 'Endings' to phenomena. And those arbitrary Beginnings are then hypothesized as "Causes".

Recently I've been considering how AI, versus Humans, identify and 'separate' images (such as rocks, school buses, flowers) from their backgrounds. Humans have a greater ability than AI, because we have access to more Senses: smell, taste, feel, rather than simply audial/visual. AI must rely, almost entirely, on visual information. So their ideation of 'Causality' would be based purely on images...or text. Humans, however, have a multi-dimensional interaction, based on 5 physical senses. And then there's memories and genetics, Remembrance of experience.

To over simplify it, causality is the pure occurence of reality as ever present and not limited to being linear, it is interwoven multidimensional context transition.

[Fairy]

To over simplify it, causality is the pure occurence of reality as ever present and not limited to being linear, it is interwoven multidimensional context transition.

I agree. The ever present doesn't move. If it did move, then it wouldn't be ever present. There is nowhere for the ever present to go, ever present is already everywhere at once. The movement from A to B to C and back to A is a conceptual mental construction of the ever present subjective observer.

There is never any experience of a future or a past. Experience is only this ever presence. You cannot step into some future, or fall back into some past as if they are real experiences. No more than the self can walk toward itself, or step back into itself. You are always here now, ever present. So in theory nothing is determined, rather, everything is constantly under construction, evolving so to speak, evolution is what got us here to be able to conceptualise reality as a mental construction, which according to Einstein is a very convincing persistent illusion.

'' This theory proposes that all moments in time—past, present, and future—may not occur sequentially, as we typically perceive, but rather exist simultaneously. This bold idea, rooted in scientific experimentation and validated by leading scholars, suggests a paradigm shift in our conception of temporal reality.

This notion transcends our conventional understanding, where time is a linear progression from the past through the present to the future. Instead, it posits a scenario where time resembles a vast, multi-layered ocean with every moment existing concurrently, like countless drops of water coalescing into a single, boundless sea.''