In regard to the ‘thanks’ in Thanksgiving Day: I would be quite willing/happy to consistently sincerely thank God with every meal, if everyone on Earth — and not just a portion of the planet’s populace — had enough clean, safe drinking water and nutritional food to maintain a normal, healthy daily life. And I genuinely would be pray-fully ‘thankful’ if every couple’s child would survive their serious illness rather than just a small portion of such sick children.
[On the other hand, what makes so many of us believe that collective humanity should be able to enjoy the pleasures of free will, but cry out for and expect divine mercy and rescue when our free will ruins our figurative good day — i.e. that we should have our cake and eat it, too?]
I realize it’s still socially awkward to question one of historical humanity’s largest and most sacrosanct institutions — prayer, and perhaps even saying heartfelt thanks to an omnipotent/omniscient deity. But I, a big fan of Christ’s unmistakable miracles and fundamental message, know I’m far from being alone in having a problem with thanking God for relative trivialities, such as a big-money-making professional sports-team’s win, especially with hunger regularly happening internationally.
Lastly, is it just me, or is there some truly unfortunate, bitter irony in holding faith and hope in prayer when unanswered prayer results in an increase in skeptical atheism and/or agnosticism? … Nevertheless, the following poem is for the growing number of people for whom there’s nothing to be thankful for on Thanksgiving Day, or any other day of the year.
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Just pass me the holiday turkey, peas
and the delicious stuffing flanked
by buttered potatoes with gravy
since I’ve said grace with plenty ease
for the good food received I’ve thanked
my Maker who’s found me worthy.
It seems that unlike the many of those
in the unlucky Third World nation
I’ve been found by God deserving
to not have to endure the awful woes
and the stomach wrenching starvation
suffered by them with no dinner serving.
Therefor hand over to me the corn
the cranberry sauce, fresh baked bread
since for my grub I’ve praised the Lord
yet I need not hear about those born
whose meal I’ve been granted instead
as they receive naught of the grand hoard.
Dare We Say (or Even Think), ‘Thanks for Nothing’?
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FrankGSterleJr
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Re: Dare We Say (or Even Think), ‘Thanks for Nothing’?
That is there not enough clean, safe drinking water and nutritional food to maintain a so-called 'normal', healthy daily life, then this is ONLY because of adult human beings, and NOT due to ANY thing else. There is obviously enough water and nutrients for EVERY one, although if the water, and even air, is not 'clean enough', then, again, that is because of adult human beings ONLY.FrankGSterleJr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:23 pm In regard to the ‘thanks’ in Thanksgiving Day: I would be quite willing/happy to consistently sincerely thank God with every meal, if everyone on Earth — and not just a portion of the planet’s populace — had enough clean, safe drinking water and nutritional food to maintain a normal, healthy daily life. And I genuinely would be pray-fully ‘thankful’ if every couple’s child would survive their serious illness rather than just a small portion of such sick children.
Does ANY one, really, 'cry out for expect divine mercy'?FrankGSterleJr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:23 pm [On the other hand, what makes so many of us believe that collective humanity should be able to enjoy the pleasures of free will, but cry out for and expect divine mercy and rescue when our free will ruins our figurative good day — i.e. that we should have our cake and eat it, too?]
If yes, then WHY would these ones do that?
If ANY one 'thanks God' for ANY thing other than for EVERY thing, then THAT one has been very MISGUIDED. Or in other words, if ANY one WANTS for only a select few and NOT for EVERY one, then THAT one has been DECEIVED and very MISGUIDEDFrankGSterleJr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:23 pm I realize it’s still socially awkward to question one of historical humanity’s largest and most sacrosanct institutions — prayer, and perhaps even saying heartfelt thanks to an omnipotent/omniscient deity. But I, a big fan of Christ’s unmistakable miracles and fundamental message, know I’m far from being alone in having a problem with thanking God for relative trivialities, such as a big-money-making professional sports-team’s win, especially with hunger regularly happening internationally.
If one is only praying for a select few, then that one's prayers will NEVER be answered.FrankGSterleJr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:23 pm Lastly, is it just me, or is there some truly unfortunate, bitter irony in holding faith and hope in prayer when unanswered prayer results in an increase in skeptical atheism and/or agnosticism?
What, exactly, is the purpose, or intention, of what is called 'thanksgiving day', which may well happen in one country only anyway?FrankGSterleJr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:23 pm … Nevertheless, the following poem is for the growing number of people for whom there’s nothing to be thankful for on Thanksgiving Day, or any other day of the year.
FrankGSterleJr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:23 pm
Just pass me the holiday turkey, peas
and the delicious stuffing flanked
by buttered potatoes with gravy
since I’ve said grace with plenty ease
for the good food received I’ve thanked
my Maker who’s found me worthy.
It seems that unlike the many of those
in the unlucky Third World nation
I’ve been found by God deserving
to not have to endure the awful woes
and the stomach wrenching starvation
suffered by them with no dinner serving.
Therefor hand over to me the corn
the cranberry sauce, fresh baked bread
since for my grub I’ve praised the Lord
yet I need not hear about those born
whose meal I’ve been granted instead
as they receive naught of the grand hoard.
Re: Dare We Say (or Even Think), ‘Thanks for Nothing’?
Feed the world and tomorrow the world will be hungry.
Teach the world to fish.
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Impenitent
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Re: Dare We Say (or Even Think), ‘Thanks for Nothing’?
Sam Kinison was right... "Move to where the food is!"
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Re: Dare We Say (or Even Think), ‘Thanks for Nothing’?
Banquet
Joni Mitchell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTAV9cn ... EXS1DpgcnH
Come to the dinner gong
The table is laden high
Fat bellies and hungry little ones
Tuck your napkins in and take your share
Some get the gravy
And some get the gristle
Some get the marrow bone
And some get nothing though there's plenty to spare
I took my share down by the sea
Paper plates and Javex bottles on the tide
Seagulls come down and they squawk at me
Down where the water-skiers glide
Some turn to Jesus
And some turn to heroin
Some turn to rambling round
Looking for a clean sky and a drinking stream
Some watch the paint peel off
Some watch their kids grow up
Some watch their stocks and bonds
Waiting for that big deal American Dream
I took my dream down by the sea
Yankee yachts and lobster pots and sunshine
And logs and sails and Shell Oil pails
Dogs and tugs and summertime
Back in the banquet line, angry young people crying
Who let the greedy in?
Who left the needy out?
Who made this salty soup?
Tell him we're very hungry now for a sweeter fare
In the cookie I read, "Some get the gravy
And some get the gristle
Some get the marrow bone
And some get nothing though there's plenty to spare
Joni Mitchell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTAV9cn ... EXS1DpgcnH
Come to the dinner gong
The table is laden high
Fat bellies and hungry little ones
Tuck your napkins in and take your share
Some get the gravy
And some get the gristle
Some get the marrow bone
And some get nothing though there's plenty to spare
I took my share down by the sea
Paper plates and Javex bottles on the tide
Seagulls come down and they squawk at me
Down where the water-skiers glide
Some turn to Jesus
And some turn to heroin
Some turn to rambling round
Looking for a clean sky and a drinking stream
Some watch the paint peel off
Some watch their kids grow up
Some watch their stocks and bonds
Waiting for that big deal American Dream
I took my dream down by the sea
Yankee yachts and lobster pots and sunshine
And logs and sails and Shell Oil pails
Dogs and tugs and summertime
Back in the banquet line, angry young people crying
Who let the greedy in?
Who left the needy out?
Who made this salty soup?
Tell him we're very hungry now for a sweeter fare
In the cookie I read, "Some get the gravy
And some get the gristle
Some get the marrow bone
And some get nothing though there's plenty to spare
Re: Dare We Say (or Even Think), ‘Thanks for Nothing’?
So, do not share, help, and support each other, and instead just all move to 'particular spots'.Impenitent wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:39 pm Sam Kinison was right... "Move to where the food is!"
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Re: Dare We Say (or Even Think), ‘Thanks for Nothing’?
you human beings are born instinctively KNOWING 'how to fish', or 'how to survive'. But, sadly, you human beings are being 'taught' to 'catch the fish', or 'to survive', for monetary gains instead, and only.